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techguysteve's Avatar techguysteve
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I was planing on upgrading my front LCRs in my theater to Bowers and Wilkins 683s this year. I've got an AT projection screen that their sitting behind, so I'm going to get 3 matching towers. No compromised center channel for me smile.gif. Well it's about time to get them, and what do you? The new 683 S2 gets announced! So now I'm a little stuck. Should I jump on a fairly good deal for the older 683s, or pay a bit more for the next revision? Looks like the cost per pair right now is 1349.98 for the old, and 1650 for the new ones. So for 3 speakers, it looks like I would be saving about $450, which could go towards a new emotivia xpa-3 wink.gif So, any thoughts?

Also, does anyone know if the new speakers are going to be sold as a pair or separately?
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There is a B&W speaker owners thread. Someone there might be able to tell you the difference between the two generations: http://www.avsforum.com/t/755048/b-w-owners-thread
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The 683 s2 will have a decoupled double dome tweeter from the cm10. Less contact with the rest of the speaker reduces unwanted resonance giving better highs. The woofer cones are now dual layered and indented for better lows. With new speakers comes new crossovers! The s2 series will be cosmetically different too. The speaker will be slimmer and now a matte finish. The tweeter will have a built in guard as well. It still has the fst in the full Kevlar mid. I am excited about the new 683 but am a little disappointed in the new 684. I spoke with someone from b&w who said the sound is markedly improved on the s2, and he isn't the type to blow smoke. I was originally going to pick up the cm8 but am now going to get the new 683 unless I listen to them and they don't have the anticipated improvement. Keep in mind if you demo the 683 s2 when they first come out in march that they do take several hours of play time to warm up so they likely won't be warmed up when you check them out. If you go to Bby try to talk to someone who is magnolia certified. What will you be using to drive them?
aalex2's Avatar aalex2
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Btw they will be sold separately at an expected increase of 825 from 750
techguysteve's Avatar techguysteve
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I've got a Marantz SR5007 that I use to drive a 7.1 setup, but I plan on getting a dedicated 3ch amp for the LCRs and let the Marantz power the surrounds. Thanks for the info on the changes. That's pretty much what I had read, was the main point was a change in the tweeter, with some subtle changes in the woofer cones. I didn't even consider that there would be a new crossover.

Well, I was a little torn between waiting till march to listen to the new ones, or grabbing the current ones which I know I loved. So, I mentioned it to my wife, and she said if the ones you like are on sale, go buy them now. Couldn't argue with that! So I got the 3 683s setup in the theater last night, and they sound amazing! Just as I suspected, using a third 683 as a center proved to make such a full, seamless soundstage. Sounds move from left, center to right perfectly. Vocals are pure and clear. Can't wait to get that 3ch amp and really make these things sing!
Stephen Sutton's Avatar Stephen Sutton
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Nice I'm in the same boat I just have a Bose 321 system now and have been to bb last few weeks listening to cm9, 683, and 484's I believe. The cost of the 683 are down to 674 from from 749 and that's 150 less than the new ones will be (825). Torn too. I'm a newbie to the whole audio thing honestly. If I get a pioneer sc-75 receiver do h feel like I need to get a amp like you are? What sub woofer did you get with your set up and other speakers do you have? Wish my wife was like yours she thinks the Bose 321 is just fine smh.
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Nice I'm in the same boat I just have a Bose 321 system now and have been to bb last few weeks listening to cm9, 683, and 484's I believe. The cost of the 683 are down to 674 from from 749 and that's 150 less than the new ones will be (825). Torn too. I'm a newbie to the whole audio thing honestly. If I get a pioneer sc-75 receiver do h feel like I need to get a amp like you are? What sub woofer did you get with your set up and other speakers do you have? Wish my wife was like yours she thinks the Bose 321 is just fine smh.

I have the 683's and love them. I was initially running them with a Rotel receiver and they sounded just fine. I upgraded to amp power twice and can tell you with a separate amp they really wake up. They produce a much larger fuller sound (plug in whatever industry jargon euphemism you'd like). One thing to keep in mind with the B&W is they show a nominal impedance of 8, but a minimum of 3 for the S2. In other words you probably aren't going to realize the best sound from most receivers which can't dig that low. I think a lot of the criticisms you hear about B&W products seem to come from people who run them with modestly powered receivers.
Stephen Sutton's Avatar Stephen Sutton
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They got 683 for 1199 a pair at my bb last two left thinking about getting them
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They have a pretty good return policy so if you just don't care for them you're protected. Pick up a outlaw amp next time they do a big sale and you'll have a big smile on your face.
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I just picked up 2 683's at my local bb for 875 for the pair. Upgraded back to towers from my 5.1 Def tech mythos nine. The sound is so much fuller and amazing. Glad I jumped on the deal. On stereo it's two different worlds
Stephen Sutton's Avatar Stephen Sutton
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Wow 437 for each 683? Can't beat that. I thought the pair at 1199 was good. I should go there and haggle down
bambino0000's Avatar bambino0000
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Ya def.. 1 had a few small dents on the woofers and the manager dropped it from 550 to 399. The other 1 had 1 tiny dent so he knocked it to 475. Awesome
Stephen Sutton's Avatar Stephen Sutton
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Someone on another thread just got them at 529 each for floor models not too shabby
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Most people don't know this but BB will.work with u on the price of open box or floor models. You do not need to pay the price tag price.
Stephen Sutton's Avatar Stephen Sutton
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Everything is negotiable on this planet even they non opened boxes even the new series 2 600's when they hit the stores. Obviously the series 1 is where u can really make a splash right now discount wise. The new series with the gloss finish would look better in my room but I'm all about best bang for my buck too. Got a personal day on Thursday and gonna hit bb again
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Got my683s and a HTM61 for 1500.00 for all 3 at BB. I went to 2 different stores to get a 683 from each one so that way I could get the best of the bunch. The center looks brand new and only 1 of mine has a small bump on the lower woofer if i remember correctly. And they sound SWWEEEEET!!!


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Yea, I was thinking of getting the floor models when I bought mine, until I took the speaker grills off. Looks like someone let their kid press in the domes on all the woofers :-( So, I just decided that new in box would be best. Still was a great deal for the performance. As for my other equipment, I'm still using some old Logitech speakers and subwoofer from my college days. So that's the next item on the list. The plan is to get an svs subwoofer, and some more b&ws for surrounds. Haven't decided which ones yet though.
Stephen Sutton's Avatar Stephen Sutton
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All done ordering check my sig for everything I got. My svs subs don't come till April 9th so won't have complete set up for a bit but once it's installed I will share some pics. Thanks for the help everyone!
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Congrats! You'll love these. Make sure you have good upstream components to feed them.
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Yesterday I listen to 683S2 and I used SC-79 for movies and Marantz 8801 processor and power amp they sound much better with Marantz combo.
Stephen Sutton's Avatar Stephen Sutton
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Yesterday I listen to 683S2 and I used SC-79 for movies and Marantz 8801 processor and power amp they sound much better with Marantz combo.

Lot of back and forth on whether there is a huge difference adding extra Amps to system. If I do get one I was looking at the emotiva xp3 amp to power the front three speakers then use my denon for the surrounds. But I'm going to wait for next year before doing that as I already dropped 9 k on those speakers and tv and will be paying this off for awhile lol. I was looking at the pioneer sc-75 for my receiver but decided to go with the denon both are really good receivers bang for your buck wise.
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Lot of back and forth on whether there is a huge difference adding extra Amps to system. If I do get one I was looking at the emotiva xp3 amp to power the front three speakers then use my denon for the surrounds. But I'm going to wait for next year before doing that as I already dropped 9 k on those speakers and tv and will be paying this off for awhile lol. I was looking at the pioneer sc-75 for my receiver but decided to go with the denon both are really good receivers bang for your buck wise.
Enjoy your system,but I wished you had brought the Denon 4520ci
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Before I built my screen wall:

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Enjoy your system,but I wished you had brought the Denon 4520ci
Darn I don't remember anyone recommending that one :-(
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Darn I don't remember anyone recommending that one :-(
Believe me that SC79 are tanks,But you can buy power amp later and guess what I don't have seperates either.
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Believe me that SC79 are tanks,But you can buy power amp later and guess what I don't have seperates either.
I am getting the denon x4000 in the mail on Monday I got it for 899 open box I can get a denon 4521 or whatever it is for 1799 usually 2499. Do you really think it's worth going that route? I'm conflicted
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I am getting the denon x4000 in the mail on Monday I got it for 899 open box I can get a denon 4521 or whatever it is for 1799 usually 2499. Do you really think it's worth going that route? I'm conflicted
I go for it.
Stephen Sutton's Avatar Stephen Sutton
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I go for it.

well there goes another grand lol

 

looking at the denon 4520 it might also be better for my new TV too.


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well there goes another grand lol

looking at the denon 4520 it might also be better for my new TV too.
One of my relatives has that receiver its power house and what TV you are thinking about getting.
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I ordered a sharp LC-80UQ17u
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