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Interesting, will need to see if my local guitar center has these.

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Interesting, will need to see if my local guitar center has these.

I called mine and they have to order it. They do carry a similar powered version, so he told me.

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People on this thread/forum are discussing this review:

http://soundforums.net/junior-varsity/9650-article-pa-speakers-home-cinema-reality-check.html

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People on this thread/forum are discussing this review:

http://soundforums.net/junior-varsity/9650-article-pa-speakers-home-cinema-reality-check.html

They don't seem very fond of pa speakers in the home..

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They don't seem very fond of pad speakers in the home..


I'm not surprised. If I hadn't actually set them up in my room I would have had a hard time believing it. I am now a believer. There's always going to be some folks who don't like a particular speaker be it low cost or expensive. Some folks love the sound of Klipsch and others think they sound like finger nails on a chalk board. Some guys think Pro amps don't work well with main speakers.

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I'm so happy this thread came to be ! I purposely held off on the design of our media room because I didn't have the speaker system figured out. And I didn't want to spend a fortune either.

Can't wait to hear what Mark thinks of using 215s all the way around.

Any update on the Behringer sub woofers ?
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I'm so happy this thread came to be ! I purposely held off on the design of our media room because I didn't have the speaker system figured out. And I didn't want to spend a fortune either.
 

 

Same here. I haven't had any desire to move my Magnepans back up front. Especially for movies.


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Subscribed :-) I like these, it just makes me want to finish the Tempest 12s i have on the go that much more.
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I used to have a pair Behringer VP2520 in my system. They sounded suprisingly good. Pro speakers are a god send for home theater and I also use mine heavily for music as well. This is a great thread.
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I think I'm going to have to pick up one of these to test with. I've been wanting JBL 3677 for my stage and maybe this is the answer. Right now I'm running Bose 10.2 II and a Boston VR12, not so sure about replacing the VR12, but I'll compare against it and see how it does. The Bose 10.2 Got tons of bass but almost too much, things just get loud rather than clear. I'm running JBL 8330A's for my surround and its obvious that the Bose are out of place. I'm running a 12" Sony Sub and a JBL LSR 10" sub, Would love to replace those as well and just go with a single 18" and pick up a amp for it. Anyone test out the 18" sub yet?
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I think I'm going to have to pick up one of these to test with. I've been wanting JBL 3677 for my stage and maybe this is the answer. Right now I'm running Bose 10.2 II and a Boston VR12, not so sure about replacing the VR12, but I'll compare against it and see how it does. The Bose 10.2 Got tons of bass but almost too much, things just get loud rather than clear. I'm running JBL 8330A's for my surround and its obvious that the Bose are out of place. I'm running a 12" Sony Sub and a JBL LSR 10" sub, Would love to replace those as well and just go with a single 18" and pick up a amp for it. Anyone test out the 18" sub yet?
From what I've read on user comments, the 3677 has excellent mid bass punch for all action movies. The built in hf roll off is excellent for those who crank the movies at reference level, with zero sign of brightness, harshness or fatigue. It is an excellent speaker for HT setup. You're getting the real cinema sound in your house. For B215XL, you'll need a mid bass module. The B215XL wins at the hf (if your music has lots of it).
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I don't plan on going this route due to room and other considerations, but after I got out of the service back in the early '80s I traded my pioneer integrated amp for a pair of BFI Bullfrog's, with 18" woofs and big horns, and a beautiful Project One 180w/ch stereo receiver. Admittedly, it was for headbanging rock-only, but man, was it good. I enjoyed that system for many years, until I was forced to mingle with society by moving to civilization. hehe.

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I just ordered a nano minidsp with the mic. I also will be picking up the u215's for a fellow member and then after demoing them I will ship them to him. I will EQ every system and compare my DIY speakers to the u215's and see which I like more. So far I like my horn arrays better than everything else that crossed their path and the big boys are only left. I am curious if the big boys can really separate from them or not. I consider the U215's one of the big boys but not the top dog, I really believe that goes to the Danley SH-50's. They cost $4500 each where my DIY speakers cost $500 each.

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I will start a little thread about them and show the response graphs and such.

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I will start a little thread about them and show the response graphs and such.

Awesome!
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Mark - don't know how I missed this thread. I must be spending too much (all of my) time in the DIY section. tongue.gif These look awesome and funny enough I was going to buy a pair of these for my shop a few months back. Considering the price, I might do that anyway so you don't have to lug yours over when we do the comparison. smile.gif Should I maybe pick up the 212s instead for comparison?

And to be accurate these are less than half of the cost of sentinels even without regard to extra materials or labor. Outstanding!! I expect them to fair very well.

BTW is amazon the best source for these? Guitar center also carries them although they are more expensive - but a coupon could be applied.
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I will start a little thread about them and show the response graphs and such.
Cool looking forward to that.

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Mark - don't know how I missed this thread. I must be spending too much (all of my) time in the DIY section. tongue.gif These look awesome and funny enough I was going to buy a pair of these for my shop a few months back. Considering the price, I might do that anyway so you don't have to lug yours over when we do the comparison. smile.gif Should I maybe pick up the 212s instead for comparison?

And to be accurate these are less than half of the cost of sentinels even without regard to extra materials or labor. Outstanding!! I expect them to fair very well.

BTW is amazon the best source for these? Guitar center also carries them although they are more expensive - but a coupon could be applied.

 

I think Amazon is the best source unless Guitar Center is running a sale. I have no experience with the 212s; I know you'll like the 215s. Glad you ran into this thread, I'm looking forward to my next visit to your humble abode!


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From what I've read on user comments, the 3677 has excellent mid bass punch for all action movies. The built in hf roll off is excellent for those who crank the movies at reference level, with zero sign of brightness, harshness or fatigue. It is an excellent speaker for HT setup. You're getting the real cinema sound in your house. For B215XL, you'll need a mid bass module. The B215XL wins at the hf (if your music has lots of it).

I've read all the posts on this thread, What if you swap the woofer for the JBL or do you think there's more to it than that? There are a lot of practical advantages to the 215's over the 3677. I would think that the 215's would blow away the Bose 10.2 II that I am currently using for L/R. What do you guys think?
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No, the JBL is bigger and why it digs deeper. I have never heard a bigger sound than the JBL cinema speakers!
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No, the JBL is bigger and why it digs deeper. I have never heard a bigger sound than the JBL cinema speakers!

I guess the 3677 is the smallest cinema speaker that you would recommend and that they make?
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I guess the 3677 is the smallest cinema speaker that you would recommend and that they make?

Perhaps you can find out more in one of the threads dedicated to those speakers?
 

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1280211/jbl-pro-3677-have-arrived

 

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1500580/jbl-3677-vs-jbl-3722n-for-lcr

 

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1475860/jbl-pro-3677-speakers


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I should get a pair of these and compare to the unities and the DIY arrays. I am always looking for the best bang for buck and sometimes the best bang happens to be the cheapest!

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Unfortunately it is not much better than the 215XL, if at all - although the B2520 PRO has a respectable 99db sensitivity and looks great with those dual 15s, it is spec'd at 50-18khz (-10 db) per the Behringer web site. I am sure it sounds great though since we all run subs anyway.
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I should get a pair of these and compare to the unities and the DIY arrays. I am always looking for the best bang for buck and sometimes the best bang happens to be the cheapest!

Yes, please do!
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Hello Mark!! Awesome find and review!!

 

One good subwoofer would good enough with the 215's??

 

B215XL vs Monster Clarity HD ( you also like it a lot )

 

What is your opinion on Pioneer SP-SF52 ( apparently you have a very good impressions on those towers and they are in your kitchen right now if I'm not mistaken ) vs B215XL Behringer Speakers?

 

I appreciate your comments!!

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Hello Mark!! Awesome find and review!!

 

One good subwoofer would good enough with the 215's??

 

B215XL vs Monster Clarity HD ( you also like it a lot )

 

What is your opinion on Pioneer SP-SF52 ( apparently you have a very good impressions on those towers and they are in your kitchen right now if I'm not mistaken ) vs B215XL Behringer Speakers?

 

I appreciate your comments!!

 

No contest right there. The Monsters were only a good deal because I got them for such a low price and they were self-powered. When it comes to output the Behringer's destroy the Monsters.

 

The SP-FS52 is a great speaker for the money and probably represents the best value of the bunch if you are not able to accommodate the Behringers. I switched between the Monsters and the Pioneers a number of times, the Pioneers are smoother and a bit more laid-back than the Monsters.

I can't comment on how one subwoofer will do in your room, but it's worth noting that I use the B215s because I like the sound quality, not because I need the output they are capable of. You must use a subwoofer to get the most out of the B215s, so one good sub would be good enough and more would be better.

 

The Monsters are really awesome if you want speakers you can take with you and use as a portable system, all they need to rock is a source, any source.



 

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No contest right there. The Monsters were only a good deal because I got them for such a low price and they were self-powered. When it comes to output the Behringer's destroy the Monsters.

 

The SP-FS52 is a great speaker for the money and probably represents the best value of the bunch if you are not able to accommodate the Behringers. I switched between the Monsters and the Pioneers a number of times, the Pioneers are smoother and a bit more laid-back than the Monsters.

I can't comment on how one subwoofer will do in your room, but it's worth noting that I use the B215s because I like the sound quality, not because I need the output they are capable of. You must use a subwoofer to get the most out of the B215s, so one good sub would be good enough and more would be better.

 

The Monsters are really awesome if you want speakers you can take with you and use as a portable system, all they need to rock is a source, any source.



 


Thank you very much Mark!!

 

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