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Are these speakers capable of taking some punishment ?
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I've only had these speakers a couple of days it's the first pair of kliptch I've had
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I've only had these speakers a couple of days it's the first pair of kliptch I've had
Could you please post your comments about these RF82ii?
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It all depends if you like horn loaded speakers. I've had mine for over a year now. I use them for ht and music. Here in Canada at 1200$ msrp in my opinion you cant get more bang for the buck. I'm not saying there isnt anything better out there but for the price they are incredible but it all comes down to what type of sound you like. Klipsch are very forward, in you're face with all the qualities and disadvantges that come with it. Dynamics, bass, wide soundstage, natural sound for me is what i love about them.  A lot of people find them harsh and i did too for a while until i found out that my room  was the cause. I have demoed ML electromotion, Focal 726, Dynaudio, Waferdhale. bare in mind that the first 3 are way more expensive. But for the life of me i cannot stand listening to metal tweeters anymore. They all sound artificial to me. If you decide to go the Klipsch way keep in mind that if you want to get the best out of them you will need to put some consideration into room acoustic treatment and positioning as they can be quite unforgiving being horn loaded and bass ported. But the rewards are worht it.

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Oh and i forgot to mention yes they can take a hell of alot of punishment. More than my ears can.

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It all depends if you like horn loaded speakers. I've had mine for over a year now. I use them for ht and music. Here in Canada at 1200$ msrp in my opinion you cant get more bang for the buck. I'm not saying there isnt anything better out there but for the price they are incredible but it all comes down to what type of sound you like. Klipsch are very forward, in you're face with all the qualities and disadvantges that come with it. Dynamics, bass, wide soundstage, natural sound for me is what i love about them.  A lot of people find them harsh and i did too for a while until i found out that my room  was the cause. I have demoed ML electromotion, Focal 726, Dynaudio, Waferdhale. bare in mind that the first 3 are way more expensive. But for the life of me i cannot stand listening to metal tweeters anymore. They all sound artificial to me. If you decide to go the Klipsch way keep in mind that if you want to get the best out of them you will need to put some consideration into room acoustic treatment and positioning as they can be quite unforgiving being horn loaded and bass ported. But the rewards are worht it.
How is your room construction? Concrete? Shiny floor tiles?
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I've only had these speakers just over a week I've heard really good reviews on these so thought I'd get a pair it did originally have the wharfedale xarus 5000s they was me first pair of good speakers and they had some umph, with these kliptch the vocals are brilliant I've not heard anything like these before as these are the first pair I've owned with horns!
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Hello I've just bought the tannoy ts10 subwoofer to go with my kliptch rf 82 speakers I was just wondering what HZ I should turn the sub upto to blend with me speakers???
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Hello I've just bought the tannoy ts10 subwoofer to go with my kliptch rf 82 speakers I was just wondering what HZ I should turn the sub upto to blend with me speakers???
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Hello I've just bought the tannoy ts10 subwoofer to go with my kliptch rf 82 speakers I was just wondering what HZ I should turn the sub upto to blend with me speakers???
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You may need to re-think your sub. A sealed 10 is not going to come close to keeping up with those rf-82s. What size is your room?
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My room isn't that big to be honest I'd say it's a good 5 metres length and 3 n half metres wide
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In that case you will get a bit more from whatever sub you choose, but the minimum I would consider would be a ported 12 or sealed 15. Those Klipsch speakers can produce very high peak spl figures so a small sub will effectively hamstring the system
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Thanks for your advice I'll take this into account, I've heard the kliptch subwoofers ain't that good have you any recommended subwoofers that would sound nice with these speakers? When you say hamstring the system what's this actually mean!
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I owned the rf82 with 62 center for a few weeks about 3 years ago. The vocals were quite good but I had little midbass. The local mom and pop I bought them from told me the needed some juice to open up so I bought an XPA3. It made a huge difference in midbass and sounded so much better even way below loud levels although they never had very impressive midbass even after that, yet detail and imaging was very good. We ended up returning them after the scene in Jurasic Park 3 when they are attempting to escape the island and the sound of the airplane props sweeps across the front stage. Me and my wife were both in pain. Overall it was just hard for me to listen to them for any length of time even in my treated theater.. But many love them so maybe our ears are too sensitive. All that matters to you should be your ears. But for me It's not a horn thing, I didn't have any issues with fatigue with the pro10s and I absolutely love the JBL3677 which I owned for a short while but it was just too big but they will be in my new theater.


Any nice subwoofer will do, HSU, SVS etc.
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I've got them rigged upto the NAD c372 my first pair of speakers was the wharfedale xarus 5000s they was nice speakers but I wanted to get some better quality ones I've heard good reviews about kliptch and always liked the look of them but these rf 82 only need a low wattage to power them I think the c372 has more than enough power I only put it a quarter and that's really all you need, overall though I do really like these but you do see a big difference when you crank the system up
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Yea they don't need much power (97db sensitivity if I remember correctly). However I called the salesman about the lack of midbass, he said they had stiffer woofers (sounded odd) than the Paradigms I was used to and advised me to give them more power with a separate amp. The bass just got deeper and seemed more open overall. But you're using a separate amp all ready so good deal. Just my 2 cents. Those were my first taste of high efficiency horns... loved the detail.
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These are the first pair of kliptch I've had and I was blown away by how much bass and power they have me other speakers had 3 subs on each speaker but when I saw these I didn't think they would be so loud as they only have two subs I've only got them running off the one amplifier, do you think they would sound better if I rigged a pre amp upto them aswell? Or will the c372 do the job ?
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I had 200 watts per speaker . If you've got plenty of midbass and they don't seem lacking then you should be fine.
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These are 150 and the amps 150 but itis a powerful amp and will drive most of the demanding speakers today, I just wanna be getting the most out of them that's all
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To hamstring means to hinder/cripple something. Ultimately the Klipsch speakers you have are far far more capable in terms of output than your sub. What this means is that when your sub is level matched with your mains the sub will start distorting way before the fronts. In essence, you will never use anywhere near the output the RF 82 are able to produce because the little sub will start to sound rubbish at much lower spl (you simply won't be able to turn it up very far).

I would suggest something like a Rythmik or SVS sub. Bigger, the better. A Rythmik FV15HP would rock your world but a ported 12 or sealed 13/15 from either brand might be enough in the small room.
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Ah right I understand I've put the sub on with me main speakers and it sound really good I think I'll stick with this for the time being but I will be upgrading in the future, I'm also gunna check the the brand you told me about how much you looking at for the fv15hp ?
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That svs sub looks very nice in the polished piano black, bet that can kick out some bass
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Can anyone give me any info on getting me subwoofer to sounds it's best with me speakers, it's a tannoy ts10 ??
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Google crawl test. Basically put the sub in the money seat, play some bass music or whatever, crawl around places you're willing to place it. Some places will be boomy (peaks) , others lack bass (nulls) and some will sound smooth. Multiple subs will give you smoother bass at more seats. Put the sub where it sounds best. Corners will have exaggerated bass (aka corner loading) , this can be a good thing for movies .... Experiment. Note that it may sound good in your seat but not another 4 feet over. It can be tricky to find the best spot, multiple subs really help solve these issues.

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I owned the rf82 with 62 center for a few weeks about 3 years ago. The vocals were quite good but I had little midbass. The local mom and pop I bought them from told me the needed some juice to open up so I bought an XPA3. It made a huge difference in midbass and sounded so much better even way below loud levels although they never had very impressive midbass even after that, yet detail and imaging was very good. We ended up returning them after the scene in Jurasic Park 3 when they are attempting to escape the island and the sound of the airplane props sweeps across the front stage. Me and my wife were both in pain. Overall it was just hard for me to listen to them for any length of time even in my treated theater.. But many love them so maybe our ears are too sensitive. All that matters to you should be your ears. But for me It's not a horn thing, I didn't have any issues with fatigue with the pro10s and I absolutely love the JBL3677 which I owned for a short while but it was just too big but they will be in my new theater.


Any nice subwoofer will do, HSU, SVS etc.
How do you rate the mid bass slam of 3677 vs RF82? Sky and Earth difference?
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Like a mosquito vs a sledge hammer. Seriously, it's not even comparable. The 3677 is insane, dynamics are just mind-boggling. It's sound is huge. I ran rew tones through just one and it had my room shaking down to 40hz,just insane.

As for the rf82, it didn't impress midbass wise at all, adding my xpa3 helped but I'd say it was average for a consumer speaker, nothing special midbass wise. It imaged well and had good detail, of course it can't hold a candle to the 3677 there either.

http://m.youtube.com/results?q=Andrew%20Robinson%203677%20&sm=3

Skip to 3 minutes to answer your question. And when he says "when properly setup, they can't be touched" he's comparing them to consumer speakers costing more than some of us have in our whole home theaters, he's a professional reviewer.
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