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I would like someone's opinion on what I am hearing. I purchased energy c-500 speakers around two years ago for a great price and loved the sound of them. a short while after that I found the veritas v6.2 for a great price and looking at reviews it sounded like people like them but I never really did. They are pretty to look at but I think they are bright and never really liked their sound. Am I way off on this and how would the rc-50 be closer matched to. From my understanding the rc50 is old energy
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I would like someone's opinion on what I am hearing. I purchased energy c-500 speakers around two years ago for a great price and loved the sound of them. a short while after that I found the veritas v6.2 for a great price and looking at reviews it sounded like people like them but I never really did. They are pretty to look at but I think they are bright and never really liked their sound. Am I way off on this and how would the rc-50 be closer matched to. From my understanding the rc50 is old energy
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I would like someone's opinion on what I am hearing. I purchased energy c-500 speakers around two years ago for a great price and loved the sound of them. a short while after that I found the veritas v6.2 for a great price and looking at reviews it sounded like people like them but I never really did. They are pretty to look at but I think they are bright and never really liked their sound. Am I way off on this and how would the rc-50 be closer matched to. From my understanding the rc50 is old energy

You're not way off, it's just a matter of opinion. Some people like the Veritas sound and the extra detail they provide, and some find them bright and fatigue inducing. The RC line has a different sound, much smoother and slightly laid-back, closer to the C series you had, but better.
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You're not way off, it's just a matter of opinion. Some people like the Veritas sound and the extra detail they provide, and some find them bright and fatigue inducing. The RC line has a different sound, much smoother and slightly laid-back, closer to the C series you had, but better.

This is always why my preference for my RC setup was RC towers with the Veritas V5.2 center as opposed to my RC-LCR. Best of both worlds - laid back, smooth 2ch for music and detailed dialogue for movies/TV. Hope I don't live to regret selling my V5.2C...
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Just wish I would have choose right before I choose my veritas now I feel like I need to act soon on the rc series before you can't find them anymore. Will there be a big difference between the rc 50 vs 70 and how much improvement over the c-500
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both RC have a better tweeter than the C-500 and better build quality too. Real wood veneer.

RC is a step above C series.

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I have an odd question if I found a pair of rc tweeters and made them fit my veritas would I get the same sound as the rc series or is there lots of other differences in the speakers. I know the veritas tweeters look sort of cheap and energy charges like 40 bucks for them
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I have an odd question if I found a pair of rc tweeters and made them fit my veritas would I get the same sound as the rc series or is there lots of other differences in the speakers. I know the veritas tweeters look sort of cheap and energy charges like 40 bucks for them

No, you would have to make changes to the crossovers to make that work.
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Ok. I thought maybe the build of the tweeter would be making it bright. Any other ideas to try to tame the tweeter down some. I have used eq settings but still not happy
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Is there any chance I will like the rc50 over the rc70. Would one have a warmer sound than the other. If anyone has listen to the both of them or has an idea let me know please
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The RC both RC 70 and RC 50 will sound identical but the 70 with a improved or clearer midrange ,specially more notable on vocals.



I owned both setups and found that what I was looking on the RC 70 was on the VERITAS V 6.3 but what I was looking on the Veritas was on the RC, I ended selling both setups.
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What did you not like about the rc. I am hoping they will be like the c-500 only better
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If I decide to get the rc-70 they will run off of a marantz sr6003 I know more power is always better and I should get a power amp but not in the budget. How do you think they will do. I rarely crank music it is usually just at a decent volume
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Marantz 6003 should do just fine with the RC-70's.

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I ordered rc70 from frys two weeks ago and was supposed to be in stock last Sunday and ship Monday. I called to see the status and the woman said they have them just not ready too ship yet and should go out on tues so I call today and the guy says they will not be getting any in so sorry. Anyone else have this issue with them
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Frys is a mess.

Panasonic 60VT60
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Frys is been so ridiculous about this energy sales.
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I didn't read replies for your listing yet but I will tell you that the Reference Connoisseur speakers, the whole range, are completely outstanding. Especially now that the price on what is available is SO cheap ($400 each for RC70s, WHAT?!). 

 

I used to work as a home theatre installer and the RC-70s were my absolute favourite value and that's when they were selling for $1200 a piece.

 

Then the Veritas 6.3 came out. Big deal. They look marginally better, which is a matter of taste really, but if you take them apart, they are pretty well identical. 

 

For that amp, if you got some of either the RC 70 or Veritas 6.3, you need to run them bi-amped to get the full punch and melody out of them. I'm using a Pioneer Elite VSX-53 for my RC70s and they sing. Period. Amazing speakers. 

 

I couldn't find any of the RC-R surround speakers and I don't think they made a RC line subwoofer, but I managed to find an RC-LCR, and Veritas surrounds and VSW-10 sub. Total sweet spot home theatre system. And thank god, Klipsch bought them out and now everything's available online for clearance prices, except for the smart guys that know some stores are selling $2400 pairs of speakers for $800, so they bump up the price in private sales.

 

 

I love the Energy RC line so much that I actually went through the process of sourcing out people from all over Canada that bought extras of the RC Mini satellite speakers to build a 7.1 setup just for my home theatre gaming PC in my den, with that Marantz SC6003 receiver and actually took the Veritas sub out of my living room for it - the RC70s bi-amped do not need a sub. Who the heck has a $2500 sound system on their gaming PC?? 

 

So if you haven't bought your full line up yet, order the RC70s, get the RC-LCR off ebay, lots of them on there, find some Veritas surrounds... you'll be in heaven, if you're allowed to turn it up that loud ;)

 

These speakers are developing such a reputation for their quality and sonic accuracy for their money, they're actually worth buying spares.. they'll hold their value

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^^^^^Lol the RC -70 don't need a sub when bi amp?


No doubt that this are good speakers ,but you are exaggerating.
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It depends how much bass you need. A sub is always nice for shaking the room but the rc70 goes down to 32hz and cranks super loud! I love mine - won't ever replace them unless i can't find more
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Just give them the 100 hrs of proper mid volume break in time to open them up
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I actually received mine yesterday from frys I got them for 299 a piece and free shipping. So far I think they sound pretty good and was wondering after the 100 hours of break in what actually changes. From what I understand if you biamp an avr you get very little gain because the amp runs out of power so you don't actually double the power
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The tweeter won't be so sharp sounding and the rubber surrounds will break in a bit. That's what I heard and it tells you to do it in the user manual. Probably prevents damage. I heard the veritas on display the first day they put them on the shelves and the salesman cranked them, sounded like glass shattering inside my head.

I'm sure some receivers will bog down but this one (pioneer vsx53 elite) has a front bi-amp setting and they sound phenomenal.
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I do agree that the veritas tweeter sounds pretty harsh I have even used some eq and it did not help. I think the only thing I am not liking about the rc70 is it seems like the smaller drums not the bass one seem overexagerated. They are a foot away from the wall with the plugs in them. Any ideas
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If anyone else has any opinions on how the speakers sound after breakin I would appreciate it because I am not sold on the sound yet. I know this topic has been discussed a lot but is there any chance my marantz receiver in biamp mode actually adds more power being it is a little higher quality receiver. I really appreciate all the good info from everyone
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The RC have a laidback and warm sound ,probably you are not used to or you don't like their laidback and warm sound
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That's the problem I have the c-500 and I think they are layed back almost to the point that you don't notice the speakers and the rc 70 seem a lot more in in your face that's why I am hoping the break in period will solve some of this. Any opinions
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