Originally Posted by esabet
Thank you very much for the detailed reply PlexMulti
I did come across a review on the RBH SI-6100 Reference
series : http://hometheaterreview.com/rbh-si-6100r-reference-in-wall-loudspeaker-reviewed/
. It is a good review though it shows a MSRP of over $3,000. RBH does offer the same speakers in non-reference which I would imagine to be less expensive but not sure how much less they would be. Should I ultimately decide to go with RBH, does it really make that much of a difference reference vs. non-reference?
Another issue that I may also have with RBH is that the enclosure for the speaker is larger than my built-in cabinets. I would assume that I can install the speakers outside their intended enclosure by custom making my own enclosure within the cabinetry but I am certain it will have an impact on the overall performance and sound of the speakers.
From reading all the replies, one way or another, it seems Sonance is not really a vital solution for my setup. I had thought the Cinema LCR2 speaker was an improvement over their original LCR series but the price point is way too high for what they offer I guess.
That said, any other speaker recommendation would be greatly appreciated. The cabinets that the speakers will be installed inside are going to be at most 13 inches wide (outside dimension), a maximum of 11.5 inches wide inside opening.
Thanks again to all the posters.
Great information. Thanks!
So, you are right on all counts: The RBH really works best in the designed enclosure for it. Obviously, as you pointed out, it's not going to fit in your design. I would also agree with you (happily) that sacrificing aesthetics of the cabinet would not be wise. Listen, there are lots of great options out there for you WITHOUT having to to that!
Your room isn't insanely huge per se, but it is on the large(ish) size at 4400 cubic feet. I am going to assume that you are looking for high quality going by the models you were looking at previously. I don't know your existing equipment or if this is all starting from scratch, but the speakers I would recommend for you will require more than just a receiver to power. Honestly, the RBH SI-6100 would have needed some power as well.
I would recommend the BG Radia SA-500 ($2,500/ea. MSRP) or, to save some money, the SA-320 ($1500/ea). The SA-500 is, IMO, the better choice as the 4 - 5 1/4" double gap woofers per speaker will help in the larger space. Both of these are stronger performers than the RBH product, as long as you amplify them properly. Parasound New Classic product is fine. We use 3 SA-360 for the front stage in our design center in a system with a 180" screen and they sound HUGE and absolutely stunning. The above models I recommended would sound similar for you in your setup. I wish there were something with larger drivers to recommend to you, but your size requirements are what they are. On top of that, anything with a larger woofer still won't out perform the BG planar magnetics when it comes to fidelity.
- Well, 1st of all: They fit... perfectly. The back box the these are 8 1/4" wide and 3 3/8" deep (the speaker itself is 7 1/8"). So, this will fit your custom front grille dimensions perfectly, your inside cab dimensions perfectly, and your depth. Problem solved there.
- 2nd: BG radia makes the finest architectural (in-wall/in-ceiling) speakers I've been able to find and I have gone through just about everything on the market over the years (not exaggerating). The BG sound is gotten through their proprietary drivers call "PMD". PMD stands for Planar Magnetic Driver. They have all of the benefits of an electrostatic, but none of the drawbacks. This is because, unlike an electrostatic speaker, the PMD drivers are relatively small (3", 8", & 10") which allows them to be incredibly fast without breakup. This translates into detail and texture in their sound that are superb. Far surpassing a traditional "Cone & Dome" speaker configuration. The ONLY negative to the BG PMD speaker is "Crap in crap out". They are going to sound unlike anything you've ever heard when playing a good source or recording. If you're streaming a lot of Pandora through the headphone jack of your iPhone, where quality varies, sometimes you can hear how cruddy and flat the compressed music is. Other things like TV, BluRay, etc. are going to be spectacular.
So, given all of your requirements, I would at least recommend investigating the following links:
Home Theater Review (NOTE: The BG sound is virtually universal. They all use the same drivers and create the same family, or type, of sound presentation. So, when reading this review it is reasonable to understand that the SA-500/SA-320 are going to offer the same characteristics as the review speakers - with the exception of the line array effect): http://www.soundandvision.com/content/bg-radia-la-550-wall-speaker-system