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I spent a little time this past weekend at Best Buy listening to the new 600 series. I was pretty impressed with the new 683 & 684. I compared them to the CM9 they had in the room. While the CM9 is still a bit better, I would say the 683 S2 was very good for a little more than half the price. The center channel was an area where I was torn. The HTM61 had a fuller sound than the CM Center (it is bigger) and at the same volume level the HTM61 was also louder. However, I felt that it wasn't as clear as the CM Center. At this point I am really leaning towards getting the 683 S2s and a CM Center.
Let me tell you from my experience, that depends on your set up, after you do the audessey set up you can turn up or down the your settings to your likings, a high end receiver or seperates will make them sound even better..
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I am set to buy the HTM61 S2 this month. It will be paired with the 683 S1s.

Please keep on posting about your impressions in this series.smile.gif
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Well today got my 685S2, so I got let them go thru breakin time and do the audessey set up over again and do admit they sound better than 686S1.
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Do you mean 685 S1? Because the 686 is not good at all. It's not difficult to sound better than the 686 IMHO. Actually I feel even the cheap AJ Pioneers best it. B&W basically tried to milk the masses with this half-hearted model. 685 is where the sound quality begins to shine.
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I just brought home a pair of 686s2. I never heard the previous version but these look completely different and I'd wager they sound much better.
I already like them better than the Imagine minis I returned earlier today. The treble response to my ear is noticeably better and the mids/ mid-bass are just a touch less prominent ..
At least in my small 10x11 office.
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Is that the NAD D3020 that you connected the 686s with?

If yes, can you share if the wattage of the D3020 matches well with handling the686s?
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Do you mean 685 S1? Because the 686 is not good at all. It's not difficult to sound better than the 686 IMHO. Actually I feel even the cheap AJ Pioneers best it. B&W basically tried to milk the masses with this half-hearted model. 685 is where the sound quality begins to shine.
686 are not that bad they better than a lot other speakers I had like def-tech and Infinity and Bose.
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Is that the NAD D3020 that you connected the 686s with?

If yes, can you share if the wattage of the D3020 matches well with handling the686s?

Plenty of power for the 686's in my office. The d 3020 has lots of dynamic headroom according to Nad and I don't doubt it from my experience with it.
I also run a sub from the fixed 100 hz output , so the amp isn't working that hard
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Where's the 3020? All I saw was the F-16! biggrin.gif

The 686s2 now has front ports. Shouldn't the speakers angled more towards you?
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Where's the 3020? All I saw was the F-16! biggrin.gif

The 686s2 now has front ports. Shouldn't the speakers angled more towards you?

smile.gif I used to be in the fighter business.
3020 is just left of the right speaker.
There's a wing chair across from the 686's- Have them toed in a little at the moment.
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I have been using a HTIB (I know, EEEEEK) from Sony for the past 5 years or so, and it finally went kaput.... So this is the new set up im getting on Thursday.


MartinLogan - Dynamo 500 10" 360-Watt Powered Subwoofer - Black Ash - http://www.bestbuy.com/site/martinlogan-dynamo-500-10-360-watt-powered-subwoofer-black-ash/9392301.p?id=1218097974479&skuId=9392301
Bowers and Wilkins - 600 Series HTM62 S2 Dual 5" 2-Way Center-Channel Speaker - http://www.bestbuy.com/site/600-series-htm62-s2-dual-5-2-way-center-channel-speaker/4826038.p?id=1219103673252&skuId=4826038&st=pcmcat221600050001_categoryid$abcat0205002&cp=1&lp=4
2 Bowers and Wilkins - 600 Series 684 S2 Dual 5" 2-Way Floorstanding Loudspeaker - http://www.bestbuy.com/site/bowers-and-wilkins-600-series-684-s2-dual-5-34-2-way-floorstanding-loudspeaker-each/4825048.p?id=1219103677699&skuId=4825048
Bowers and Wilkins - 600 Series 685 S2 6-1/2" 2-Way Loudspeakers (Pair) - http://www.bestbuy.com/site/bowers-and-wilkins-600-series-685-s2-6-1-2-34-2-way-loudspeakers-pair/4827037.p?id=1219103680008&skuId=4827037
Denon - IN-Command 875W 5.1-Ch. Network-Ready 3D Pass-Through A/V Home Theater Receiver - http://www.bestbuy.com/site/denon-in-command-875w-5-1-ch-network-ready-3d-pass-through-a-v-home-theater-receiver/7926046.p?id=1218862378446&skuId=7926046

This is my first real "legit" home theater sound system. Also, nothing on this is list is what i picked out when i went to the store. The audio guy at best buy said that it would sound amazing, especially compared to what i was running before, and compared to what i had picked out myself.

With all that said, I'd love to get some feedback from some of the experienced audio guys in this forum. Let me know what you think of this configuration, Any good, or not so much?

Im new to this stuff, so be gentle! hahaha.

Thanks in advance guys!!!
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I have no doubt that combination should sound amazing indeed:)
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Thanks! Im beyoned excited to get it, hook it up and turn it on for the first time! My neighbors MAY not approve, but i'll try to be respectful, lol
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Good luck with your neighborly relations..lol.

When I was discreetly setting up my system my neighbors were shocked when suddenly my walls and ceilings including roof shook-up.
So, be prudent with the controls 😃
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I have been using a HTIB (I know, EEEEEK) from Sony for the past 5 years or so, and it finally went kaput.... So this is the new set up im getting on Thursday.


MartinLogan - Dynamo 500 10" 360-Watt Powered Subwoofer - Black Ash - http://www.bestbuy.com/site/martinlogan-dynamo-500-10-360-watt-powered-subwoofer-black-ash/9392301.p?id=1218097974479&skuId=9392301
Bowers and Wilkins - 600 Series HTM62 S2 Dual 5" 2-Way Center-Channel Speaker - http://www.bestbuy.com/site/600-series-htm62-s2-dual-5-2-way-center-channel-speaker/4826038.p?id=1219103673252&skuId=4826038&st=pcmcat221600050001_categoryid$abcat0205002&cp=1&lp=4
2 Bowers and Wilkins - 600 Series 684 S2 Dual 5" 2-Way Floorstanding Loudspeaker - http://www.bestbuy.com/site/bowers-and-wilkins-600-series-684-s2-dual-5-34-2-way-floorstanding-loudspeaker-each/4825048.p?id=1219103677699&skuId=4825048
Bowers and Wilkins - 600 Series 685 S2 6-1/2" 2-Way Loudspeakers (Pair) - http://www.bestbuy.com/site/bowers-and-wilkins-600-series-685-s2-6-1-2-34-2-way-loudspeakers-pair/4827037.p?id=1219103680008&skuId=4827037
Denon - IN-Command 875W 5.1-Ch. Network-Ready 3D Pass-Through A/V Home Theater Receiver - http://www.bestbuy.com/site/denon-in-command-875w-5-1-ch-network-ready-3d-pass-through-a-v-home-theater-receiver/7926046.p?id=1218862378446&skuId=7926046

This is my first real "legit" home theater sound system. Also, nothing on this is list is what i picked out when i went to the store. The audio guy at best buy said that it would sound amazing, especially compared to what i was running before, and compared to what i had picked out myself.

With all that said, I'd love to get some feedback from some of the experienced audio guys in this forum. Let me know what you think of this configuration, Any good, or not so much?

Im new to this stuff, so be gentle! hahaha.

Thanks in advance guys!!!
For one you need to pick a better receiver like X-4000 if you going with 684S2 for the fronts and Htm62S2 for the center and finally 686S2 for surrounds
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Thanks for your feedback! Unfortunately, that X-4000 is WAY out of my budget (which i have already gone over), actually, the price of the X-4000 is almost my entire budget.....

I know the X-1000 is like an "entry level" receiver, but this is my first legit system, and the guy at Best Buy suggested this over the Sony that i went in there planning to purchase.

Do u think i will have some power issues with the X-1000?
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Thanks for your feedback! Unfortunately, that X-4000 is WAY out of my budget (which i have already gone over), actually, the price of the X-4000 is almost my entire budget.....

I know the X-1000 is like an "entry level" receiver, but this is my first legit system, and the guy at Best Buy suggested this over the Sony that i went in there planning to purchase.

Do u think i will have some power issues with the X-1000?

Have you thought of looking at the Emotiva Fusion 8100(http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/av-receivers/products/fusion-8100)? They only sell it direct, but the nice thing is that it comes with pre-outs. That way you can connect a separate amp in the future if need be.
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No i haven't, i'm pretty much a noob when it comes to this stuff! I haven't gotten the system yet, but its supposed to come in tomorrow.

Once i get it all set up and configured properly, i'll make sure to post my impressions!!!! Thanks for your feedback! Much appreciated!
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Thanks for your feedback! Unfortunately, that X-4000 is WAY out of my budget (which i have already gone over), actually, the price of the X-4000 is almost my entire budget.....

I know the X-1000 is like an "entry level" receiver, but this is my first legit system, and the guy at Best Buy suggested this over the Sony that i went in there planning to purchase.

Do u think i will have some power issues with the X-1000?
Yes sir
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So i got all my equipment yesterday, and only had time to play around with it for a couple hours after setting it up.

Turned it on for the first time, and put some COD on the PS4, and it sounded really good!!!!! Next i tried a few scenes from Game of Thrones, and that was also pretty impressive!

Couple things i did notice that the sub was not firing too often, but then found out that if i change the sub-mode to "LFE+Main" that it would be always be used, so that fixed one of the "querks" of the system.

I guess i need to get used to the fact that different sources will have various output and not all will be using all the speakers. When i airplay music through the receiver, it only users the 2 fronts and center channels. I need to try that again after making the settings change for the sub.

The B&W 600 series speakers i got sound awesome. Very clear, and crisp. Overall i'm very happy with the system, and think i could get even more out of it with the right tweaks!

If anyone has any tips and/or tricks that they could share with me, i'd be very grateful!

Thanks again for all the feedback I've received!!
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I'm interested in knowing what people think of the 683 vs the CM8. Anyone compare the two?
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So i got all my equipment yesterday, and only had time to play around with it for a couple hours after setting it up.

Turned it on for the first time, and put some COD on the PS4, and it sounded really good!!!!! Next i tried a few scenes from Game of Thrones, and that was also pretty impressive!

Couple things i did notice that the sub was not firing too often, but then found out that if i change the sub-mode to "LFE+Main" that it would be always be used, so that fixed one of the "querks" of the system.

I guess i need to get used to the fact that different sources will have various output and not all will be using all the speakers. When i airplay music through the receiver, it only users the 2 fronts and center channels. I need to try that again after making the settings change for the sub.

The B&W 600 series speakers i got sound awesome. Very clear, and crisp. Overall i'm very happy with the system, and think i could get even more out of it with the right tweaks!

If anyone has any tips and/or tricks that they could share with me, i'd be very grateful!

Thanks again for all the feedback I've received!!

Congrats on the new setup and welcome to the wonderful world of audio! I know it's going to sound boring but you should read the manual that came with your receiver. Gives a lot of good info and will explain what a lot of the settings do.
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Thanks kamouflage! Actually that is how I found out how to adjust the sub-woofer settings, so the manual is already helped! I just need to go through it more thoroughly.

This receivers manual is on a CD, and there is not really a book. But i'm gonna download a PDF off the web and toss it on my iPad.

Thanks for the feedback!!! Cant wait to get home from work and crank that baby up again! lol
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I did a pretty thorough audition of the new 685 s2 side by side with cm1's and I preferred the cm1's. The 685 s2's have quite a bit more base which you would expect given their size comparison but the cm1's just sounded nicer to me, a bit more life like with better control and more detail. It wasn't a dramatic difference but switching back and forth I felt the cm1's had the better sound overall.
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So i got all my equipment yesterday, and only had time to play around with it for a couple hours after setting it up.

Turned it on for the first time, and put some COD on the PS4, and it sounded really good!!!!! Next i tried a few scenes from Game of Thrones, and that was also pretty impressive!

Couple things i did notice that the sub was not firing too often, but then found out that if i change the sub-mode to "LFE+Main" that it would be always be used, so that fixed one of the "querks" of the system.

I guess i need to get used to the fact that different sources will have various output and not all will be using all the speakers. When i airplay music through the receiver, it only users the 2 fronts and center channels. I need to try that again after making the settings change for the sub.

The B&W 600 series speakers i got sound awesome. Very clear, and crisp. Overall i'm very happy with the system, and think i could get even more out of it with the right tweaks!

If anyone has any tips and/or tricks that they could share with me, i'd be very grateful!

Thanks again for all the feedback I've received!!
So, what receiver did you get?
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I did a pretty thorough audition of the new 685 s2 side by side with cm1's and I preferred the cm1's. The 685 s2's have quite a bit more base which you would expect given their size comparison but the cm1's just sounded nicer to me, a bit more life like with better control and more detail. It wasn't a dramatic difference but switching back and forth I felt the cm1's had the better sound overall.
I compared 685s2 with cm5 to me it was not that much of difference.
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unfortunately your going to be disappointed i think.

I WISH i could have went with the X-4000, but my budget was already stretched, and limited, so i stuck with the X-1000.

Maybe in a year or so i can look at upgrading that! But i'm pretty pleased so far!
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unfortunately your going to be disappointed i think.

I WISH i could have went with the X-4000, but my budget was already stretched, and limited, so i stuck with the X-1000.

Maybe in a year or so i can look at upgrading that! But i'm pretty pleased so far!
I'm not disappointed, I cannot tell a man how to spend your money.
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Thanks again!! I appreciate all your feedback!
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I'm interested in knowing what people think of the 683 vs the CM8. Anyone compare the two?

So i spent about 3 hours at bestbuy today doing just this ^

To my ear the CM9 had a much bigger sound stage and better transparency to it. When they were switched on i was engulfed in sound and couldn't tell where it was coming from. It had deeper lows, richer mids and higher highs than the 683 but not overwhelmingly so.

Then we switched between the 683s2 and the 684s2 both of which were really nice and to my ear sounded pretty similar and the 683s2 sounded a bit 'bigger' and fuller but neither sound as rich or full as the CM9.

A few things surprised me though: the 683s2 was BIGGER than the CM9 in terms of physicality. The 684s2 was very small in comparison at nearly half the depth by about 5 inches! This may be a deciding factor for me as my space is not HUGE. I also got to listen to the two new center channel speakers and both sounded as good as CMC they had.

Still deciding between the CM and the 600 line but leaning toward the 600 line.
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