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Anyone who has upgraded from the Polk RTI series? What did you upgrade to and how much of an improvement was it? I am willing to buy any speaker under $2000 that is substantially better than the RTI12/RTIA9. I listen to music prominently, so what would be a good upgrade? I would really appreciate any recommendations.
I have heard from a lot of people that speakers stop sounding better after a certain quality level, so I don't understand why people spend so much on speakers like high end Revels, and B&W if this is true.
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It's not that they stop sounding better, it becomes an issue of diminishing returns. If you have a sub, I would look to get a pair of good bookshelves like the Ascend Sierra-2, these will be a big improvement in sound quality, and with a sub there won't be any difference in low end. If you are looking for just a new pair of towers, I would probably look at around the $2k mark. You can also get some good deals on Polks former flagship LSi line, which would be a nice upgrade over the RTis.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Polk-Audio-LSi25-CHERRY-Tower-Floorstanding-Loudspeakers-NEW-PAIR-/360864322101?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item5405309235

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Why are you looking for an upgrade? (What are you looking to achieve?)

What are your current problems or issues with the RTi's?

What receiver do you have?

Do you have an external amp to power your RTi's?

What subwoofer do you have?
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Look at the Focal 836V on close-out pricing
http://www.musicdirect.com/p-139685-focal-chorus-836v-tower-speakers-pr.aspx

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Look at the Focal 836V on close-out pricing
http://www.musicdirect.com/p-139685-focal-chorus-836v-tower-speakers-pr.aspx

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I went from Polk tsi300 to focal 726v last fall. I love the way the focals sound. I know the tsi is below the Rtis, but I still think you will hear a significant upgrade in the focal.

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Anyone who has upgraded from the Polk RTI series? What did you upgrade to and how much of an improvement was it? I am willing to buy any speaker under $2000 that is substantially better than the RTI12/RTIA9. I listen to music prominently, so what would be a good upgrade? I would really appreciate any recommendations.
I have heard from a lot of people that speakers stop sounding better after a certain quality level, so I don't understand why people spend so much on speakers like high end Revels, and B&W if this is true.

You are where I was at last year. Not satisfied with my RTi A7s I started trying different brands under $2000pr. I just couldnt find that "better" sound. Honestly, I think you will either have to spend more money or consider building a pair of speakers from a well known builder (this is my opinion of course). I settled on building a pair of Paul Kittinger's Marcato speakers and I coundnt be more satisfied and they cost under $1000 in materials. The differance between the Marcatos and the Polks is enormous. They play loud and crystal clear. Plus ive been having a bad experience with my Polks. I already trashed three drivers, one mid and now two tweeters. All under warranty though. Mike D.
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I went from RTi A9s to LSiM 705s. It's a night and day difference. The RTi A9s were too bright for me. I do about 90% music and 10% movies. I can listen to the LSiM for hours at high volume without fatigue. I can't say the same thing about the RTi A9s.
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I think the RTi series is a better movie speaker than a music speaker. The A7s are also very bright and would give me a headache when turned up loud.
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It's not that they stop sounding better, it becomes an issue of diminishing returns. If you have a sub, I would look to get a pair of good bookshelves like the Ascend Sierra-2, these will be a big improvement in sound quality, and with a sub there won't be any difference in low end. If you are looking for just a new pair of towers, I would probably look at around the $2k mark. You can also get some good deals on Polks former flagship LSi line, which would be a nice upgrade over the RTis.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Polk-Audio-LSi25-CHERRY-Tower-Floorstanding-Loudspeakers-NEW-PAIR-/360864322101?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item5405309235


How do your EMP speakers sound? Are they any better than the RTIs? I was thinking of buying the LSi25 because they are so cheap right now but did not because I read 2 reviews in which people were disappointed after upgrading from the RTI series. These LSIs are amazing looking though and the tweeter is also quite unique. Anyone who has had any of the former LSI speakers? This deal seems too good to pass.
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Why are you looking for an upgrade? (What are you looking to achieve?)

What are your current problems or issues with the RTi's?

What receiver do you have?

Do you have an external amp to power your RTi's?

What subwoofer do you have?

Just better sound quality overall, cleaner bass, punchier tight mid bass, cleaner mid range, and a better sounding tweeter overall. The tweeter is pretty average on the RTI12s.

I have had the NR609, VSX-1123, DN1040, A2020, SC-75, and currently have the V673. I returned or sold all of the other ones I mentioned. I will eventually get a high end HDMI 2.0 receiver when they come out. Either an Elite Pioneer because I really liked the SC-75 or Yamaha Aventage A2040 or A3040. If I do buy new speakers of course I will get a high end receiver at the same time.

I have also had the Emotiva XPA-2 amp with the A2020 and it did not improve the sound quality compared to the A2020 so I returned it also.

I have the Outlaw LFM-1 EX will eventually upgrade to the Rythmik FV15HP or dual SVS PB-2000s if it does get good reviews.
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You are where I was at last year. Not satisfied with my RTi A7s I started trying different brands under $2000pr. I just couldnt find that "better" sound. Honestly, I think you will either have to spend more money or consider building a pair of speakers from a well known builder (this is my opinion of course). I settled on building a pair of Paul Kittinger's Marcato speakers and I coundnt be more satisfied and they cost under $1000 in materials. The differance between the Marcatos and the Polks is enormous. They play loud and crystal clear. Plus ive been having a bad experience with my Polks. I already trashed three drivers, one mid and now two tweeters. All under warranty though. Mike D.

Yup I have had one replaced under warranty also but I can't do DIY and extremely niche speakers because its time consuming and complicated. I would rather buy a well known product from a reputable manufacturer.
So far I have narrowed it down to:

LSi25, Focal 836V, Golden Ear Triton, KEF Q900, and PSB speakers but they seem pretty weak by the looks. Although a lot of people have recommended PSB to me.

How about the Aperion Verus speakers, are they any good?
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I've owned RTi8's for roughly a month, before I had to get rid of them. Polk LSi is a big step above for music. However, I recently ditched the Polk's for some Salk sound Veracity song towers. And, those are are a HUGE step above the LSi's. They also come at a cost as well. The transmission line design with dual 6" Seas' knock the pants off the Polk's dedicated 8" in the LSi15.

Btw- a regular Salk sound SongTower would be a nice upgrade as well, all for under 2k.
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How do your EMP speakers sound? Are they any better than the RTIs? I was thinking of buying the LSi25 because they are so cheap right now but did not because I read 2 reviews in which people were disappointed after upgrading from the RTI series. These LSIs are amazing looking though and the tweeter is also quite unique. Anyone who has had any of the former LSI speakers? This deal seems too good to pass.

I find the RTi's too bright for my taste, my EMPs have a better mid-range and create a better sound stage, though YMMV. I have only heard the LSi9, but they are fantastic, a much different speaker than the RTi series and I keep kicking myself for not getting a pair.

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You are where I was at last year. Not satisfied with my RTi A7s I started trying different brands under $2000pr. I just couldnt find that "better" sound. Honestly, I think you will either have to spend more money or consider building a pair of speakers from a well known builder (this is my opinion of course). I settled on building a pair of Paul Kittinger's Marcato speakers and I coundnt be more satisfied and they cost under $1000 in materials. The differance between the Marcatos and the Polks is enormous. They play loud and crystal clear. Plus ive been having a bad experience with my Polks. I already trashed three drivers, one mid and now two tweeters. All under warranty though. Mike D.

What are you driving the speakers with? They do benefit from a healthy dose of power, and from what you described I would wager you are clipping your amp.

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Driving them with a sony 555 es 120w receiver when I blew the mid, a onkyo a9070 75w int amp when I blew the tweeters. Neither have been turned up more than 2/3 volume.
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