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Maybe this is the wrong place for this thread, but I did not see a "Room Treatment" or "Room Acoustics" section. And since acoustics are designed to affect how a speaker sounds, I'm asking here.
I watched this Home Theater Geeks episode, which got me interested and pointed in this direction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raAyF5ksbkk

So I've read much about acoustical treatments and the importance of them, but where and what do I buy?

Do I buy from MSR Acoustics? Do I buy from GIK Acoustics? Any other recommendations?

Is there a FAQ for room acoustics?

I currently have some Auralex foam(24 1x1 2 inch thick foam) in my room, and in my experience, it seems to have a good effect on the high frequencies, but not so much the mid to low frequencies.

Room is 1120 cubic feet, (10x14x8)

And if this is the wrong place to ask, please direct me where these questions would be appropriate.
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Mostly you do them yourself.
http://www.realtraps.com/articles.htm
http://www.ethanwiner.com/articles.html

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Mostly you do them yourself.
http://www.realtraps.com/articles.htm
http://www.ethanwiner.com/articles.html

You do them yourself, meaning like build your own?

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I recently treated my home theater room with a few panel that I bought from the following:

http://www.acoustimac.com/acoustic-panels/


Their panels and service are/were both very good. They do charge shipping and that can get expensive. A quick Google will uncover a number of similar companies.


I treated a large brick wall behind my equipment to include speakers.
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You do them yourself, meaning like build your own?
Yes. You can't just walk into a local Room Treatment Store and ask them for panels.

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There is an acoustics treatment "store" that has reasonable prices on bass traps,
sound absorption panels, and DIY materials. ATS uses rockwell in their panels and
bass traps. Their workmanship is excellent, and turn around time is outstanding.


http://www.atsacoustics.com/

But I suggest you do visit ethan winers site per Bills suggestion...because there
is a wealth of information there, including panel placement, and taking room measurements.

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Yes. You can't just walk into a local Room Treatment Store and ask them for panels.

Maybe I'm confused, but I thought you evaluate what it is you need in your room, and then order them?
I don't want to go the DIY route for building my own panels.
Are you familiar with the video I linked to with Scott Wilkinson and Anythony Grimani?
That's kind of what I was originally going off of. I am watching videos on the sites you linked to though!
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There is an acoustics treatment "store" that has reasonable prices on bass traps,
sound absorption panels, and DIY materials. ATS uses rockwell in their panels and
bass traps. Their workmanship is excellent, and turn around time is outstanding.


http://www.atsacoustics.com/

But I suggest you do visit ethan winers site per Bills suggestion...because there
is a wealth of information there, including panel placement, and taking room measurements.

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Oh thank you! Very helpful. Do you have any experience with any of the ATS panels yourself?

Yes, I am checking out Ethan's site.

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I have around 18 panels that I've ordered from http://www.gikacoustics.com/ and their service is excellent and IMO, better than ATS, but a little pricier.
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Do any of you guys know where to get OC703 panels at a decent price? Home Depot quoted me something like $95 per 2" thick 2ft by 4ft panel, and said that I would have to order a minimum of 10 panels to meet their minimum order requirements..

I just can't afford that so I am hoping that someone on here knows of a better, or cheaper place to get them online?
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I'm thinking about making my own panels, what is the best material for that?

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Maybe this is the wrong place for this thread, but I did not see a "Room Treatment" or "Room Acoustics" section. And since acoustics are designed to affect how a speaker sounds, I'm asking here.
I watched this Home Theater Geeks episode, which got me interested and pointed in this direction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raAyF5ksbkk

So I've read much about acoustical treatments and the importance of them, but where and what do I buy?

Do I buy from MSR Acoustics? Do I buy from GIK Acoustics? Any other recommendations?

Every room seems to want to be different so the further you get into both good sound and good looks, the more this becomes a DIY project.

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Is there a FAQ for room acoustics?

So your computer can't run Google searches? ;-)

Google's first hit is I believe something that you were subsequently referred to in this thread. You could have found it without waiting for an answer here. Just saying because room acoustics tends to be kind of personal research oriented, and you can start out with that in mind or you can go a harder, more time consuming way like being tutored one question at a time on some audio forum some place.
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I currently have some Auralex foam(24 1x1 2 inch thick foam) in my room, and in my experience, it seems to have a good effect on the high frequencies, but not so much the mid to low frequencies.

The problem with Auralex is IME price performance, which tends to bully people into not doing enough. The results of that are exactly what you said above.
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Yes, I do have/bought panels from ATS. 4 bass traps, and 4 absorption panels for the highs at the first reflection points
of the side walls and ceiling.

ATS service is excellent, and it only takes a couple of days before they ship you your panels. Excellent workmanship.
Prices can't be beat. It is important to measure the sound of your room.....you can make it sound worse if you don't
know where to place (and how many) to use. Ethan's site does show you basically where to place the panels and how
to measure.

http://realtraps.com/info.htm

Here is very long thread on acoustical panels, where you can ask questions from people
that are much more knowledgeable than myself.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/255432/acoustical-treatments-master-thread


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Can anyone recommend a cheap place or source for OC703 that I can purchase online??
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Can anyone recommend a cheap place or source for OC703 that I can purchase online??
And pay for shipping? Type 700 is mostly used for insulation in commercial construction, so you can get it locally from building suppliers who serve that industry. That's not Lowes or HD, as it's not used much in residential construction, but you can find it. It's also used in HVAC, so that's another source to check.

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And pay for shipping? Type 700 is mostly used for insulation in commercial construction, so you can get it locally from building suppliers who serve that industry. That's not Lowes or HD, as it's not used much in residential construction, but you can find it. It's also used in HVAC, so that's another source to check.

Bill, I live in rural Arkansas. The only stores we have are Lowes & Home Depot.
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Bill, I live in rural Arkansas. The only stores we have are Lowes & Home Depot.
Go to the Yellow Pages, call the nearest HVAC contractor, ask where he gets the Type 700 that he uses for duct work. That style will have an aluminum foil backing, but that's not an issue if that faces the wall. Or you can strip it off. You can also use fiberglass drop-in ceiling tiles, stripping off the plastic facing, but it's only 1/2"-5/8" thick, so you'd need to stack it.

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