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Hello all!

 

I have been reading forums for about a week now and trying to figure out what speakers to purchase for my new home.  I have been overwhelmed with the amount of information out there and speaker set ups. 

 

With that said, my wife and I decided for this room (our gathering room) we will use only in wall/in ceiling setups.  I know I have read all the negatives about quality of sound but book shelfs and others are out of the question.

 

To the details:  I purchased a Denon E-400 receiver.  I have $600-$800 dollars to spend on speakers AND a subwoofer for this room.  I know my price point isnt going to attain spectacular sound but this is my first AV surround sound setup and will upgrade down the road.  

 

I have listened to Speakercrafts, Klipsch, B&W, and several others but honestly they all sound good in that particular store but I want to make sure I get the best bang for the buck.  I went to a high end home theater store in the area and they recommended Phase Tech speakers.  Does anyone know much about this product?  I havent found much information on them....

 

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With that said, my wife and I decided for this room (our gathering room) we will use only in wall/in ceiling setups.  I know I have read all the negatives about quality of sound but book shelfs and others are out of the question.

What's bad about in-wall speakers?

Pick the speaker the fits your budget first and foremost. Then your installation requirements. Then sound quality. Normally it's the other way around, but you have specific requirements it sounds like.
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I have read several places where people refuse to use in-walls due to the sound quality disintegrates.. 

 

Either way, I am looking for recommendation on LCR/surround and sub for the $600-800 range....

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Is not about the sound quality! is about the optimal placement required, this is the standard for a real home theater experience.

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Is not about the sound quality! is about the optimal placement required, this is the standard for a real home theater experience.
I will second this by room treatments. I have heard good speakers sound better in better treated rooms. Night and day experiences.
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I should be more specific.... I was wanting to place in wall speakers for LCR and in ceiling for the two surrounds.  Also, this will be used for sports/music. 

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If you want in wall and you are able to achieve the cinema experience then is not a problem. There is speakers that are well design for this kind of situations but they probably cost more than your budget.

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AVS sells in wall speakers, get ahold of Mike Garrett and see what he could do for you.
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For music if you are a critical listener I recommend bookshelf or towers.

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http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/bosvsi575a/boston-acoustics-vsi-575-2-way-6.5in-in-wall-speaker-each/1.html

I would recommend a pair of those, and then see if you stretch your budget a little and get a SVS SB-1000. It is compact so you can tuck it out of the way, and will offer good accurate bass. With your budget, you will get more for your money going with internet brands.

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I see the VSi-575 is being recommended frequently for the in wall setup.... If i did grab two for the LR, what would you recommend to complete the two surrounds and the center?  I also was looking at the BIC F12 sub... Any thoughts?

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This would work well for the center, it is an LCR: http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/bosvsi555w2a/boston-acoustics-vsi-555w2-2-way-dual-5-1/2-in-wall-lcr-speaker/1.html

And then really anything for surrounds, maybe a pair of these: http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/bosvri560/boston-acoustics-vri560-in-wall-6-2-way-speaker-each/1.html

I think you would be better suited to go 2.1 or 3.1 right now, and get a better sub.

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The problem with in-wall speakers is that they are placed in an environment which is highly variable.

The performance of an in-wall speaker is variable and unpredictable because each mounting location loads the speaker differently.

70% of speaker system design is the speaker enclosure shape, size and acoustical characteristics.

That 70% becomes a random function when you just put the speaker in a hole in the wall.

That is a big problem.

Having said that; IMO the best in-wall speakers are made by PSB.

If you are set on taking the fatal pathway, at least go with some good ones...lol.
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This would work well for the center, it is an LCR: http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/bosvsi555w2a/boston-acoustics-vsi-555w2-2-way-dual-5-1/2-in-wall-lcr-speaker/1.html

And then really anything for surrounds, maybe a pair of these: http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/bosvri560/boston-acoustics-vri560-in-wall-6-2-way-speaker-each/1.html

I think you would be better suited to go 2.1 or 3.1 right now, and get a better sub.

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Thanks everyone for the advice! 

 

At this point, I never really even considered just doing a 2.1 or 3.1 for now and then purchase the rest when I can.

 

I know this really isn't the section to ask, but if I went with the VSi-575 for LR and the VSI555 for the center, what sub is recommended?  Again, I am not sure if it matters, but I have a Denon E400 receiver.

 

Thanks again for all the help thus far!

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At this point, I never really even considered just doing a 2.1 or 3.1 for now and then purchase the rest when I can.

I know this really isn't the section to ask, but if I went with the VSi-575 for LR and the VSI555 for the center, what sub is recommended?  Again, I am not sure if it matters, but I have a Denon E400 receiver.

3.1 is a good option to start for a somewhat restricted budget - what is your max subwoofer budget?

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Well, I haven't really allocated a sub budget.  I have $600-800 to spend on speakers.  So, if I went with the Bostons for the LCR, that leaves me with just less than $200.  However, I could stretch that to attain a better sub.  Right now, I dont think I can justify $500 on a sub (wife wouldnt approve LOL).  

 

So with that said, I have no idea what would get me into a "good" sub price range... 


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^^ FWIW, I'd say concentrate on your main speakers before purchasing a sub, and audition as many speakers as you can in your price range. The sub can come later when funds are available.
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Well, I haven't really allocated a sub budget.  I have $600-800 to spend on speakers.  So, if I went with the Bostons for the LCR, that leaves me with just less than $200.  However, I could stretch that to attain a better sub.  Right now, I dont think I can justify $500 on a sub (wife wouldnt approve LOL).  

So with that said, I have no idea what would get me into a "good" sub price range... 
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Thanks for all the input.  Looks like those Boston Acoustics might get the call...

 

Has anyone dealt with or had Phase Tech?  Trying to get some opinions about them...

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