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How does something sound "congested"? What does that mean? This is recent phenomena?

Just my way of trying explain the lack of clear tweeter and mid-range detail. Maybe muzzled would be a better depiction of what I'm trying to convey.

Two words: Sighted evaluation.
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Just picked up a Sony STR DA555es in 8 out of 10 condition. I don't have time to play, but wanted to check AVS for music settings before I put my magic to the test.

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Two words: Sighted evaluation.

Two words: Cloth ears.

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What's you guys thoughts on EQ settings for a sony str da555es rec. for Jazz music set to 4 ohms? ( 2ch )

speakers 8' from listening area 8' a part
Treble =
Mid =
Bass =

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The below is my current setting as of last night.

speakers 8' from listening area 8' a part
Treble = 8 Hz / +10db
Mid = 2.5 Hz / 0db
Bass = 100 Hz / +10db

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What's you guys thoughts on EQ settings for a sony str da555es rec. for Jazz music set to 4 ohms? ( 2ch )
Whatever sounds best. No one else knows your tonal preference, and no one else has the same room that you do. Identical receivers and speakers will sound different in every room you put them into. However:
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10dB of EQ requires ten times the power out of the amp to deliver it, and ten times the power handling and three times the cone excursion for the speakers to produce it. I'd take the mids down 5dB and boost the lows and highs by 5dB. 10dB of bass EQ also indicates that you need subs.

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Two words: Sighted evaluation.

Two words: Cloth ears.

Good point. Sighted evaluations can't detect cloth ears because people can just talk their way past detection, if they have cloth ears. In a DBT if you don't hear a difference but others do, there is no place to hide.
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Whatever sounds best. No one else knows your tonal preference, and no one else has the same room that you do. Identical receivers and speakers will sound different in every room you put them into. However:
10dB of EQ requires ten times the power out of the amp to deliver it, and ten times the power handling and three times the cone excursion for the speakers to produce it. I'd take the mids down 5dB and boost the lows and highs by 5dB. 10dB of bass EQ also indicates that you need subs.

thanks for adding value to my post.

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... Identical receivers and speakers will sound different in every room you put them into. ...

Big +1. Not said often enough.
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More importantly than just 4 ohm or avr vs amp is the frequency at which the lowest resistance point occurs. I had a customer come in to buy an avr and was powering some cerwin vega speakers that dipped very low in the bass region. Moreover he ran the towers full range. The avr was clipping to all hell and the levels he was looking for and the music he was playing were not conducive to his setup.

In canada we can get the pioneer 1227 for $600. You should look into the prices where you are.
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... Identical receivers and speakers will sound different in every room you put them into. ...

Big +1. Not said often enough.

Ditto

Of course how many people ascribe any real differences that are heard to the room or the speakers? Consider how many AVS posts make far reaching claims like "Yamaha AVRs sound bright" when they were obtained by people doing a stereo shop crawl?
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Hooked up the Sony STR DA555es an it sounds great, but I think I have a crossover issue with signals to my tweeter, which could be a capacitor. The sound coming out of it is very low on music that has a lot of highs. The mid and bass is wowing through these speakers, so I'm hoping it's just a capacitor and not the crossover, because they have to be shipped from Denmark.eek.gif

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