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Hello all,

I recently went into my local Best Buy and tried out a few speakers (Def. Tech, Energy, B&W). Out of all of them, the Energy speakers were the most bang for the buck and I'm looking forward to purchasing them. I tested the CF-30s with CC-10 center. Then I went onto the energy website and started looking around to get a better idea for my surrounds, etc. That's where I ran across their suggested CF-70 5.1 system:

http://www.energy-speakers.com/products/connoisseur-series/?sku=CF-70-5-1

A search on Amazon showed the same packages (different subs) for $1,786, which is perfect because I was looking at a budget of ~$2,000 for the speakers. The deals on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Speakers-CF-70-5-1-Theater/dp/B0054GV9M8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1398406619&sr=8-3&keywords=energy+cf-70+5.1+system

http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Speakers-Theater-Bundle-Acoustech/dp/B005F77VXM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398406619&sr=8-1&keywords=energy+cf-70+5.1+system

As I mentioned, the only difference between the amazon systems, and the one on Energy site, is the Subs. Energy site suggests ESW-C10 sub where as the amazon ones have PA-120 (not sure who the manufacture is) or BIC Acoustech PL-200 Subwoofer. From what I understand, the BIC is made in collaboration with Hsu and sounds like it's a good sub.

Here's where I need the help:

  1. Having heard the CF-30s, am I safe in assuming that the CF-70 will either meet, or exceed the CF-30s?
  2. The systems are paired with CC-10 for center, and CR-10s for surrounds. But a search on Amazon for the individual speakers is showing that both these models are discontinued. I did not find whether they are or not on the Energy website. Any idea if they are discontinued? If so, am I still safe in getting them as part of the package, or can you suggest an alternate speaker?
  3. What receiver would you guys suggest for this setup?

Here's the basic info on where this setup will be used, and for what:

  1. Room size (in inches): 204x223x108 (WxLxH) = approximately 17x19x9 feet. This is a family room that extends back into the kitchen for another 221 inches.
  2. Seating distance: about 140 inches (11-12 ft) away from the TV
  3. Used for: TV and movies (60-40)
  4. Flooring type: Vinyl "hardwood".


Thank you so much for all your help.
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I personally think you can do better for your budget. I would recommend Ascend Acoustics CMT 340 SEs, 340 center, and CBM-170s for the rear, coupled with a Rythmik LV12R. Ascend gives you a discount on buying a full set like that.
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Fry's has the RC-10 and RC-LCR on sale right now if you hurry.
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3 RC-LCRs across the front and RC-10s would be a nice setup. Three exact same speakers is optimal for the front soundstage. The RC-LCRs can be placed vertically or horizontally.
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There's a limit of one LCR per household, I guess he could get some friends or family to order a couple. These Fry's RC sales usually don't last long before they start putting people on back-order status.
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That is too bad. Really would be a great setup smile.gif

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Thanks for the replies, cel4145 and Gmash!

The RCs are on sale till may 1st. Better get over there with some friends smile.gif

So, those RC-LCRs are big enough to be used as my LCRs in the room size I have?
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I personally think you can do better for your budget. I would recommend Ascend Acoustics CMT 340 SEs, 340 center, and CBM-170s for the rear, coupled with a Rythmik LV12R. Ascend gives you a discount on buying a full set like that.

The CMT-340s all around (LCR, surrounds, and rears) is coming to $1,808. Plus $600 for the LV12R. Does that sound about right?

oops i know where i went wrong. I had CMT 340 SE for rear also, instead of your suggsted CBM-170s biggrin.gif

so the system as you suggest is 1588. plus 600 for the sub will put it right at my budget.

Between the Ascends and the Energy deal at Frys, what would you guys suggest? I haven't heard the ascends yet. anywhere i can go to check them out?

Also, what about a receiver suggestion? I currently have any onkyo TX-SR605. It's been a good amp for a few years but it's time to udpate, especially with plans to upgrade my tv to UltraHD in an year or so.
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Ascend Acoustics is an Internet direct speaker company, which is why they are a good value (no profit built in for a middleman/retail store).
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Well both are good speakers, The RC are on a blowout sale ,I'm pretty sure they will go very quick.


To choose between ascend and RC you will have to audition both speakers.


Take the one you like and return the other.
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Hmm. If I were to go with the RC-70s from fronts, RC-LCR for center, and RC-10s for surrounds and rears, which sub would you recommend?

I don't know if I really need the towers for fronts, but just thinking they might server well for the room size. Or do you guys think that the RC-LCRs will fill the room nicely? the room is 19x17x9 (LxWxH). The LCRs and RC-10s will be wall mounted.
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A sub for a 3000 cubic ft room? At least something with the output of the Outlaw LFM-1 Plus, which is currently on sale for $499.

If you are into listening to music in 2 channel, I would definitely go with the RC-70 + RC/LCR setup.

I have the RC-50s with an RC-LCR, and before going with 3 RC-LCRs, I would go with the Ascend CMT-340s.

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A sub for a 3000 cubic ft room? At least something with the output of the Outlaw LFM-1 Plus, which is currently on sale for $499.

If you are into listening to music in 2 channel, I would definitely go with the RC-70 + RC/LCR setup.

I have the RC-50s with an RC-LCR, and before going with 3 RC-LCRs, I would go with the Ascend CMT-340s.

Thanks,cel4145! I think I'll pull the trigger on the rc-70s with the lcr on the front and rounding out with rc 10s. Had a chance to go to fry's and check them out. Definitely like this better than the cf-70. The cost will be approximately the same with the fry's sale.
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The RC-70 has been on sale for $299 and $350 each at fry's.


probably you can get that price if you negotiate.

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The RC-70 has been on sale for $299 and $350 each at fry's.


probably you can get that price if you negotiate.

Wow. Thanks for the info!
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The RC-70 has been on sale for $299 and $350 each at fry's.


probably you can get that price if you negotiate.

I didn't check the price. I thought that they were on sale. I think for $599 each, you might want to look around some more.
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Yes they are not longer on sale but you can try to get a discount.


there is many options for $1,200.
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I know this is going away from Energy, but seeing as how Energy is now owned by Klipsch, what do you guys think about this deal on amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-RF-42-Reference-Theater-System/dp/B009KMESGQ/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1398499577&sr=1-4&keywords=energy+speakers+7.1
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Also, the Hsu HIW-1 set (6 for $839) seems like a good deal, but I can't help wonder what i'll be missing out:

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/hiw-1.html
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I know this is going away from Energy, but seeing as how Energy is now owned by Klipsch, what do you guys think about this deal on amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-RF-42-Reference-Theater-System/dp/B009KMESGQ/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1398499577&sr=1-4&keywords=energy+speakers+7.1

I'd much rather have the Energy RC speakers over the Klipsch. The horn tweeters on Klipsch speakers hurt my ears and are too bright sounding.

If you can get the RC-70's for $299 or $349 each, LCR for $229 and RC-10's for $229/pr that would be very hard to beat. Cost would about $1060 - $1160 plus tax. You could add a SVS PB1000 sub and still be way under the price of that Klipsch system.
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I'd much rather have the Energy RC speakers over the Klipsch. The horn tweeters on Klipsch speakers hurt my ears and are too bright sounding.

If you can get the RC-70's for $299 or $349 each, LCR for $229 and RC-10's for $229/pr that would be very hard to beat. Cost would about $1060 - $1160 plus tax. You could add a SVS PB1000 sub and still be way under the price of that Klipsch system.

Thanks for the input, afrogt! I need to see if I can convince the Fry's sales rep to give me a good deal on the RC-70s.

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they had a deal with the RC-70's and a Yamaha stereo receiver for $699 than ended Thursday. Maybe they could still offer you than deal?

Otherwise just wait for another sale to occur.

Or maybe pickup 3 RC-LCRs and use them across the front.

If you have a subwoofer that'll sound very good too.
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