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Hey all. I need to pick up a pair of surround speakers for a few hundred. I will upgrade at some point in the future but just need something that will do the job for now. I have JTR Triple 8 for LCR which are 98db sensitive and crossed over to a couple Seaton Submersives. I know very sensitive speakers. Let me know what you think a good match would be. Thanks.

I have been planning on the Volt 10 kit from the DIY sound group but thought I would ask for suggestions
http://www.diysoundgroup.com/coaxial-speaker-kits.html

Here are some others based on a few hundred.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1513064/definitive-technology-studio-monitor-450-sm450-upgraded-internals

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1528801/definitive-technology-sr-8040bp-pair

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1506724/fs-mordaunt-short-mezzo-1-monitor-bookshelf-pair

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1529065/energy-veritas-5-2-center-and-5-1-bookshelf-speakers-high-gloss-rosewood

http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-RB-51-II-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B0040LG96O/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=1ZZPB6SB2VREKE3VRQG9

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1527691/ascend-hsu

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1527596/m-k-ss-550-gloss-black-pair

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882780029

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1524673/fs-nht-classic-two-300-for-pair

http://www.amazon.com/Fluance-ES1S-Fidelity-Surround-Bookshelf/dp/B006GDOJ70/ref=sr_1_37?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1398493962&sr=1-37&keywords=surround+speakers

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If you don't mind a little work the Volt's on paper look the best.  DIY is pretty much impossible to beat, and the higher sensitivity would probably be easier to meld into your mains.  I'm far from an expert, just my thoughts on the matter.

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Volts will be them I think

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Why spend a few hundred if they are temporary? They are just surrounds....spend $50. They only handle ambient sounds for the most part anyways. No point in wasting good money.
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Why spend a few hundred if they are temporary? They are just surrounds....spend $50. They only handle ambient sounds for the most part anyways. No point in wasting good money.

"Only surrounds".... If you heard a home theater with a set of full range speakers, you wouldn't be saying this. Surrounds can make a HUGE difference in modern soundtracks... Whether you care to "waste" the money or not is a different issue.

Plenty of DIY, used, and refurbished options available for cheap.... No need to settle for crap.
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Again, they are temporary....so why spend so much? That's the point.

And no where in my post did I say to buy crap. Cheap and crap are not synonymous.
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Oh missed the "temporary" part

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The Cambridge Audio S30 could work. It's a full range speaker with a small-ish cabinet size and 90dB sensitivity.

On close out sale for $200 a pair at http://www.accessories4less.com/
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Why spend a few hundred if they are temporary? They are just surrounds....spend $50. They only handle ambient sounds for the most part anyways. No point in wasting good money.

Several of the speakers I listed I wouldn't consider crap (I know you didn't say it). They could easily fill in until I can swing a set of say JTR single 8's ($900 each). I could then sell them for nearly what I bought them for. So not a waste of money. After selling after I have used whatever will be only a small fee to have them in my setup for some time. Like rent...So lets say I spent 300 on a pair of the used ones I listed. In a year I sell for 250. Or I buy the Volt kits which are certainly very capable speaker and I sell. You see what I am saying?

I am ordering the Volt kits with the slanted boxes...

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On close out sale for $200 a pair at http://www.accessories4less.com/[/quote]

The whole reason I made this thread was to get ideas to avoid building the volts. I don't mind doing but my 4520 is coming thursday and I would 'prefer' to just plug in the surrounds and calibrate. These look like decent little speakers and I could always keep them for computer use...

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Actually I need to raise them up and was going to use a couple stands so I could just get these instead!

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/cambs70oak/cambridge-audio-s70-5-3-way-floorstanding-speakers-each-dark-oak/1.html#!specifications

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The whole reason I made this thread was to get ideas to avoid building the volts. I don't mind doing but my 4520 is coming thursday and I would 'prefer' to just plug in the surrounds and calibrate. These look like decent little speakers and I could always keep them for computer use...

Something like the Definitive Tech speakers or the likes of the
JBL Studio 210 speakers can work for you.
http://www.amazon.com/JBL-Studio-210-Surround-Loudspeaker/dp/B00GK22KYG

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... The whole reason I made this thread was to get ideas to avoid building the volts. I don't mind doing but my 4520 is coming thursday and I would 'prefer' to just plug in the surrounds and calibrate. These look like decent little speakers and I could always keep them for computer use...

They are just that, "decent little speakers". I used them as surrounds for several months and they worked very well (I eventually upgraded my surrounds for 5 identical speakers all around). I now use the S30's as bedroom speakers - they dig surprisingly low for speakers their size and sound good on their own.
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Actually I need to raise them up and was going to use a couple stands so I could just get these instead!

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/cambs70oak/cambridge-audio-s70-5-3-way-floorstanding-speakers-each-dark-oak/1.html#!specifications

Not a bad option

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They are just that, "decent little speakers". I used them as surrounds for several months and they worked very well (I eventually upgraded my surrounds for 5 identical speakers all around). I now use the S30's as bedroom speakers - they dig surprisingly low for speakers their size and sound good on their own.

For 60 bucks more I would just do the tower option since I need to raise them up anyway...I may do this...

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the jbls would have better power handling as I will be running off of the Denon 4520...

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the jbls would have better power handling as I will be running off of the Denon 4520...

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Or like you said these look like the same thing but just low profile

http://www.amazon.com/JBL-Performance-Wall-Mountable-Bookshelf-Loudspeaker/dp/B000FK5Y74/ref=pd_sim_e_10?ie=UTF8&refRID=1K17BPZ1EC8WX2FTSV6Y

I know have some old JBL towers on surround (going bad) and they are 87db sensitive I think. Audyssey just sets my mains at like -8db and the surrounds at like 0db so lower sensitivity isn't all that bad

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Or like you said these look like the same thing but just low profile

http://www.amazon.com/JBL-Performance-Wall-Mountable-Bookshelf-Loudspeaker/dp/B000FK5Y74/ref=pd_sim_e_10?ie=UTF8&refRID=1K17BPZ1EC8WX2FTSV6Y

They can work out fine for you

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I have the ported volt 8's and they keep up with my JTR 228's with no problem. They blend perfectly even at reference. I would build these and there would probably be no need to upgrade in the future.

Mine are in the ported .67 cu/ft box they sell.

Will get 2 more to complete a 7 speaker system. May build 5 additional for another system in my living room.

Before I got my 228's, I used these for mains and they were the best sounding speaker I had owned.

3 - JTR 228's LCR (game room)
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another option Klipsch RS-400 for $125 each.
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_714RS400B/Klipsch-Reference-RS-400.html?showAll=N&search=rs-400&skipvs=T

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Thanks J!

I also found these. I think I might prefer direct radiating surrounds. Seems like a decent option a little better than a set of 200 JBL home line bookshelves? I can't say for sure, prob the same. But 95 db sensitive...

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_714RB600B/Klipsch-Reference-RB-600.html?tp=186

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Those look like a steal at 350

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The behringer 15" or 12" are super cheap too and likely put out a lot more sound with great efficiency

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I also found these. I think I might prefer direct radiating surrounds. Seems like a decent option a little better than a set of 200 JBL home line bookshelves? I can't say for sure, prob the same. But 95 db sensitive...

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_714RB600B/Klipsch-Reference-RB-600.html?tp=186

Klipsch tends to inflate their sensitivity specs - the sensitivity will average around 91db

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Klipsch tends to inflate their sensitivity specs - the sensitivity will average around 91db

Are you still riding on a merry-go-round?

A real LOL! Yes I want the volts but after my latest massive time spent with constructing treatments I have zero motivation for assembly! Even though it would be fairly easy and a couple hours

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