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looking for the cheapest possible decent AVR for 5.1, the Denon 1513 being the latest or only of it's class on Denon's website, is this one highly preferred over the other Denon 1000 series models? as there are many inexpensive ones listed on ebay,

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Hello there. Probably should have this in the receiver/amp section. Also, would be good to know your budget as "cheapest possible decent" can have several different meanings to people.
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looking for the cheapest possible decent AVR for 5.1, the Denon 1513 being the latest or only of it's class on Denon's website, is this one highly preferred over the other Denon 1000 series models? as there are many inexpensive ones listed on ebay,

The 1513 is definitely entry level with no room correction software or networking. Not preferred over the x series at all. IF that's all you can afford then get it but if you can spend a little more then get the e300, x1000 or 1613.

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That is such a cheap receiver that it won't satisfy you for long; wasted money in the long run when you upgrade.

I recommend that you consider a Harman-Kardon AVR 1700, which will be a keeper.
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this is your best option and it will have plenty of power needed for most home applications and you aren't just playing for the name like the HK which has little to no power when run in surround mode.
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i'm looking for nothing more than to be able to connect it to a PC, support 5.1 and 3d sound, just for audio. all else that matters is the quality of the sound, no additional functions are necessary, such as networking, room correction, etc... does this still make the harman-kardon 1700 better for what i'm looking for than the denon 1513?  through what port does it connect to the PC?

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i'm looking for nothing more than to be able to connect it to a PC, support 5.1 and 3d sound, just for audio. all else that matters is the quality of the sound, no additional functions are necessary, such as networking, room correction, etc... does this still make the harman-kardon 1700 better for what i'm looking for than the denon 1513?  through what port does it connect to the PC?
the Denon avr-e300 is a far better receiver and isWhat you should be looking at. It's the version after the avr-1613 a step above the 1513

The HK-1700 is not worth it. When you are trying to power 5 speakers it power drastically drops. The Denon avr-e300 will have at least double the power and be a much better overall buy. HK isn't known for budget receivers which is why their budget receivers aren't reviewed well and they have hardly any power to other companies that are experienced in building a budget receivers
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how should usb headphones be connected to a receiver with no usb port?

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Why are you connecting USB headphones? The receiver has a headphone jack....

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how should usb headphones be connected to a receiver with no usb port?

I think we might need to help you figure out your setup more. Can you tell us more about your setup and planned usage?

1. What kind of speaker setup (make/model speakers/sub) do you have?

2. What make/model headphones?

3. How do you plan to hook your receiver to your PC?

4. Is this for music, movies, gaming? Which is most important (if any)?

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my headphones are usb, not the standard headphone jack...

 

does sound quality largely depend on the dolby/dts decoders? as the receiver with the most decoders will end up producing the best quality audio/video?

 

looking to hook up the pioneer sb22 speaker set, i'm using logitech g35 usb headphones, i assume the receiver will connect to pc with HDMI, or is it most likely to be USB, or will i have to use a HDMI to USB adapter? i'll use it for music, video and gaming, no one being the most important. would the e300 really offer any improvement over the e200 for my needs?

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USB headphones will not hook up to any AVR. They are designed to plug into a computer and have their own DAC and headphone amp--an all-in-one solution.

So just one pair of SB22s? No sub. Gonna be kind of a weak setup for gaming and movies without a sub.

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no, sorry, i mean a 5.1 setup that includes a pair of sb22

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Then Audyssey MultEQ on the E300 will be very useful. Using the enclosed mic, it will take a bunch of readings and help to optimize your speaker setup, EQing the speakers and the sub. Definitely worth the extra bucks for the better sound quality smile.gif

Oh, and yes. You will need to hook your PC to your receiver using HDMI. It's the only way to get uncompressed multichannel audio from the PC to the receiver.

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do you advise against getting manufacturer refurbished models? or are they typically flawless?

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accesssories4less.com is a good place to buy factory refurbished/factory warrantied receivers. A couple of my family members have bought from them and plenty of AVS members.

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the AVR to PC connection cable, is this HDMI to HDMI, HDMI to USB, or what? my pc has no HDMI ports

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If you just want to use audio from your computer, most computers have an optical output that can be connected to an AVR.

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but doesn't HDMI produce better quality than that? so should it be a usb to hdmi? does it matter?  and yes, this is just for audio.

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Optical can carry 2 channel lossless. So if for music, optical works as well as HDMI. For movies in multichannel, 5.1 is DVD quality over optical. If you are going to play blurays on your PC, then you need HDMI for best SQ.

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http://www.thinkcomputers.org/reviews/gigabyte_ex58_ud4p/11.jpg

 

those are all the ports i have, doesn't look like optical or hdmi are possible

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You need to read your manual since you don't know how to look at motherboard connections wink.gif

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is there any quality loss in an HDMI to USB converter/adapter?  rather than straight HDMI to HDMI?

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I've never heard of an HDMI to USB adapter.

Did you look at your motherboard manual?

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