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So my dear wife has informed me that for our family room TV setup, I need to do whatever I am going to do sound-wise within a 5.25" by 56" gap in our TV console. This surely is designed to pop in a sound bar.

I consider myself a HT enthusiast. I have my own colorimeter, calibrate my TVs, geek out over speakers, etc. I will have a mancave in the basement to do with as I please, so I am willing to compromise with her on the upstairs setup.

What are my best options? I really do not want to give up having a receiver, as I enjoy the HDMI switching and other benefits. I am allowed to have a sub which will help the cause.

1) Powered soundbar? I could slap this 54 inch beast in there, add a sub, and call it a day.

http://store.vizio.com/s5430wc2.html

2) Passive soundbar? These seem to be quite expensive, not worth it?

3) Receiver + small bookshelves: Something like 3 of these sealed little guys, turned on their sides?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CKNOYWK

Any suggestions for speakers that will do OK put on their sides and not be over 6 inches tall?

Thanks!

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Since this is not your mancave, I'd go ahead with a soundbar with a small sub. Whatever makes her happy....then you can go bananas on the Basement Rig!! biggrin.gif
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Since this is not your mancave, I'd go ahead with a soundbar with a small sub. Whatever makes her happy....then you can go bananas on the Basement Rig!! biggrin.gif

A reasonable option smile.gif I just am so used to hyper-calibrating one of my HDMI inputs, and then using the receiver to switch through my cable box, apple TV, etc.

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I would look at the Boston P400 passive soundbar - you can control it with
your receiver and still do HDMI switching. Just add a subwoofer.

Boston makes good stuff - and this is real good close-out pricing
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/bosp400ba/boston-acoustics-p400-soundbar-speaker-black-new/1.html

http://www.accessories4less.com/mas_assets/cache/image/1/7/f/7/6135.Jpg

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You really didn't provide a budget and what devices/components you plan to use with it.

There are a few sound bars that are quite impressive and a lot of mediocre ones too.

Yamaha makes some impressive sound bars but are very costly (for the high end worthwhile offerings). Goldenear has a soundbar that has gotten impressive reviews and while not cheap, it should be a consideration along with a sub. Perhaps the best thing to do is to do a bit of research on some soundbars (reviews) and get a feel for what they offer and if it is a good fit for you. On a more subjective note - I would always prefer passive bars to those that are powered. This leaves lots more options in what you can connect (to an AVR) as well as expand your system if desired (add rear speakers).
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I would look at the Boston P400 passive soundbar - you can control it with
your receiver and still do HDMI switching. Just add a subwoofer.

Boston makes good stuff - and this is real good close-out pricing
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/bosp400ba/boston-acoustics-p400-soundbar-speaker-black-new/1.html

http://www.accessories4less.com/mas_assets/cache/image/1/7/f/7/6135.Jpg

http://www.accessories4less.com/mas_assets/cache/image/1/7/f/6/6134.Jpg

Thanks for the reply. I just re-measured the area. It is 5.25" with an area of front trim, and 5.75" if I can sneak it behind the trim. That sound bar would be cutting it very tight.

How is getting a passive integrated sound bar different than just buying 3 MTM center channels?

My ES8000 settings, calibrated with an i1D3 and calman:
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You really didn't provide a budget and what devices/components you plan to use with it.

There are a few sound bars that are quite impressive and a lot of mediocre ones too.

Yamaha makes some impressive sound bars but are very costly (for the high end worthwhile offerings). Goldenear has a soundbar that has gotten impressive reviews and while not cheap, it should be a consideration along with a sub. Perhaps the best thing to do is to do a bit of research on some soundbars (reviews) and get a feel for what they offer and if it is a good fit for you. On a more subjective note - I would always prefer passive bars to those that are powered. This leaves lots more options in what you can connect (to an AVR) as well as expand your system if desired (add rear speakers).

Thanks for the reply. My budget was under $500 for the front 3 speakers/sound bar/whatever.

I have a set of Energy CB-10s that I will connect as rears if the wife allows. I have a polk and a JBL sub that I can use for the system as well.

I would hookup my DVR, blu-ray player, Apple TV, HTPC

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Thanks for the reply. I just re-measured the area. It is 5.25" with an area of front trim, and 5.75" if I can sneak it behind the trim. That sound bar would be cutting it very tight.

How is getting a passive integrated sound bar different than just buying 3 MTM center channels?

You may get a little more separation in sound

However while the Boston is higher quality - the HTD Flat Panel speakers are still nice.
They are 5 inches tall
http://www.htd.com/Products/flat-panel-speakers/flat-panel-speaker#

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You may get a little more separation in sound

However while the Boston is higher quality - the HTD Flat Panel speakers are still nice.
They are 5 inches tall
http://www.htd.com/Products/flat-panel-speakers/flat-panel-speaker#

That looks very interesting. I assume I would go with 2 of those horizontal, wire one to left, one to right, and then no center?

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That looks very interesting. I assume I would go with 2 of those horizontal, wire one to left, one to right, and then no center?

You can do that for 2.1 sound

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http://www.goldenear.com/products/supercinema3d

Good quality, fits in the space, makes wife happy, what more could you want?
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http://www.goldenear.com/products/supercinema3d

Good quality, fits in the space, makes wife happy, what more could you want?

His budget is $500

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http://www.goldenear.com/products/supercinema3d

Good quality, fits in the space, makes wife happy, what more could you want?

Expensive frown.gif Any idea on real-world pricing? Just closed on the house and feeling a little tight.

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His budget is $500
OOPS! Missed that little piece of the puzzle.

As to the "real world pricing" that's it. No discounts, unless you can find a used one.

The budget leader in soundbar tech appears to be this one: http://hometheaterreview.com/panasonic-sc-htb20-home-theater-soundbar-reviewed/

Good interim solution?
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OOPS! Missed that little piece of the puzzle.

As to the "real world pricing" that's it. No discounts, unless you can find a used one.

The budget leader in soundbar tech appears to be this one: http://hometheaterreview.com/panasonic-sc-htb20-home-theater-soundbar-reviewed/

Good interim solution?

Thanks for the reply. I already have an AVR and a sub for the room, so Id rather my money go to just the speakers.

Right now I am leaning towards two of these

http://www.htd.com/Products/flat-panel-speakers/flat-panel-speaker#

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Thanks for the reply. I already have an AVR and a sub for the room, so Id rather my money go to just the speakers.

Right now I am leaning towards two of these

http://www.htd.com/Products/flat-panel-speakers/flat-panel-speaker#

Not a bad choice, although I have never heard those speakers in person. Like I said before, let your wife make the final decision, so she is satisfied 100%. Give her no ammunition to complain about your future theater build, or its cost. smile.gif

What is your budget for the HT in the basement? ( electronics/speakers/room treatments )

Enjoy my friend!

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Not a bad choice, although I have never heard those speakers in person. Like I said before, let your wife make the final decision, so she is satisfied 100%. Give her no ammunition to complain about your future theater build, or its cost. smile.gif

What is your budget for the HT in the basement? ( electronics/speakers/room treatments )

Enjoy my friend!

Bri

For future googlers: I went with the HTD flat panel speakers x2, good deal on a set of b-stocks.

The wife is happy as they look nice and clean on the TV stand:



Have not had a chance to critically listen or calibrate the HTD speakers, but regardless the wife is happy and it will sound better than the built in speakers smile.gif

Thanks for the help!

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You can do that for 2.1 sound

Went with the HTDs, thanks for the heads up.

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Went with the HTDs, thanks for the heads up.
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