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5.1 Home Theater Speakers $1000-1500

Hi All,

Looking for recommendations for a home theater for my father in law. $1000-1500 speaker budget. I'd appreciate any ideas, venturing out from some HTIB solutions. Leaning toward a Pioneer receiver but open to suggestions here as well. Any input greatly appreciated!
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Is the receiver in this budget?

Whats the size of the room in cludinf ceiling heights? Is it open or closed off?

Any speaker size restrictions?
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Hi All,

Looking for recommendations for a home theater for my father in law. $1000-1500 speaker budget. I'd appreciate any ideas, venturing out from some HTIB solutions. Leaning toward a Pioneer receiver but open to suggestions here as well. Any input greatly appreciated!
I would suggest a NAD T748 receiver. It is $600 and will sound far better IMO than any Pioneer or Yamaha receiver that sells for the same money.

For speakers, I would suggest a pair of the Pioneer FS-52 speakers, a CS-22 center speaker, and a pair of BS-22 speakers. You can get those 5 speakers from Amazon for under $700, which is a great deal for some darn good speakers.

For a very good subwoofer, I suggest the Klipsch RW12, which is only $400 at Amazon now.

It would cost almost twice as much to get some that are a little better.

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Hi All,

Looking for recommendations for a home theater for my father in law. $1000-1500 speaker budget. I'd appreciate any ideas, venturing out from some HTIB solutions. Leaning toward a Pioneer receiver but open to suggestions here as well. Any input greatly appreciated!
I would suggest a NAD T748 receiver. It is $600 and will sound far better IMO than any Pioneer or Yamaha receiver that sells for the same money.

For speakers, I would suggest a pair of the Pioneer FS-52 speakers, a CS-22 center speaker, and a pair of BS-22 speakers. You can get those 5 speakers from Amazon for under $700, which is a great deal for some darn good speakers.

For a very good subwoofer, I suggest the Klipsch RW12, which is only $400 at Amazon now.

It would cost almost twice as much to get some that are a little better.
Thanks. I've been reading good things about the Pioneer speakers. Seems like best bang for your buck on a budget.
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The Pioneer speakers are nice - however, the new Sony Core speakers sound more open
and clear to me with better detail and definition.

2 pairs of the bookhelf speakers
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-cor...kers&cp=1&lp=1

The center channel
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-cor...kers&cp=1&lp=2

Subwoofer SVS PB-1000
http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/po...0#.U531uua94pQ

Denon E400 receiver - on closeout pricing
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-E400...denon+receiver

That puts you within the $1500

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If you really only have 1500 to spend, I would not spend 600 of it on a reciever! You can buy an Avr for 300 dollars and spend more on speakers! Spending more dollars on speakers will have a bigger sound quality payoff than spending more on an av reciever!
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If you really only have 1500 to spend, I would not spend 600 of it on a reciever! You can buy an Avr for 300 dollars and spend more on speakers! Spending more dollars on speakers will have a bigger sound quality payoff than spending more on an av reciever!
Absolutely right.

Here is a brand new Denon, authorized dealer, full warranty.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_033AVRE400/Denon-AVR-E400.html?tp=179

We still need some info about the room and listening preferences.
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Here is a brand new Denon, authorized dealer, full warranty.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_033AVRE...00.html?tp=179
Right - and Amazon (World Wide Srereo) has it for the same price, that I listed in post #5

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If you really only have 1500 to spend, I would not spend 600 of it on a reciever! You can buy an Avr for 300 dollars and spend more on speakers! Spending more dollars on speakers will have a bigger sound quality payoff than spending more on an av reciever!

It really depends on how loud you want to go. in a normal living room situation, a $300 reciever will do, but in a very large or open space, or in a good sized dedicated theater where the system is going to be operated at high volume, you want to go with at least a mid ranged reciever for the extra watts.

Plus the mid ranged recievers tend to have better room correction software than the entry level recievers. to me, that alone is worth the extra cost.
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Hi All,

Looking for recommendations for a home theater for my father in law. $1000-1500 speaker budget. I'd appreciate any ideas, venturing out from some HTIB solutions. Leaning toward a Pioneer receiver but open to suggestions here as well. Any input greatly appreciated!
For your budget, I'd go for an Ascend Acoustics/Rythmik Audio combo comprising CBM-170 SE mains (on sale), CMT-340C centre, HTM-200 SE surrounds (on sale) and Rythmik LV12R Servo sub for around $1400 shipped. If you can stretch the budget $300, substitute the CMT-340 SE's for the mains. For this outlay, 6 X 6.5" woofers up front is hard to toss.

For output and dynamics, the Ascends will easily account for the likes of the Sony's and AJ Pioneers.

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If you really only have 1500 to spend, I would not spend 600 of it on a reciever! You can buy an Avr for 300 dollars and spend more on speakers! Spending more dollars on speakers will have a bigger sound quality payoff than spending more on an av reciever!
Good call! Such a common mistake... buy an AVR first on a quick whim and then skimp on the speakers. A $600 AVR with a $400 sub is especially silly.
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If you really only have 1500 to spend, I would not spend 600 of it on a reciever! You can buy an Avr for 300 dollars and spend more on speakers! Spending more dollars on speakers will have a bigger sound quality payoff than spending more on an av reciever!

It really depends on how loud you want to go. in a normal living room situation, a $300 reciever will do, but in a very large or open space, or in a good sized dedicated theater where the system is going to be operated at high volume, you want to go with at least a mid ranged reciever for the extra watts.

Plus the mid ranged recievers tend to have better room correction software than the entry level recievers. to me, that alone is worth the extra cost.
yet we have more than a few posts on here about people who bought cheaper, low sensitive speakers like the Pioneer set and they are dissapointed that they don't get loud enough!
If you have a large, open space, your money would be best spent first on decent, fairly sensitive speakers, IMHO. The Pioneer speakers don't fit that category...

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yet we have more than a few posts on here about people who bought cheaper, low sensitive speakers like the Pioneer set and they are dissapointed that they don't get loud enough!
If you have a large, open space, your money would be best spent first on decent, fairly sensitive speakers, IMHO. The Pioneer speakers don't fit that category...

If he is looking for more sensitive speakers, then something like some P163's and a PC351 might be a good idea.

http://www.harmanaudio.com/search_br....asp?brand=INF

Then the receiver from Crutchfield and maybe an Outlaw sub on sale.

http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/...m_medium=email

But it would really be useful to know room size and listening preferences.
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If his room is big enough, the P363's are on sale for $100 at Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0046A8R3M/...=ATVPDKIKX0DER
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yet we have more than a few posts on here about people who bought cheaper, low sensitive speakers like the Pioneer set and they are dissapointed that they don't get loud enough!
If you have a large, open space, your money would be best spent first on decent, fairly sensitive speakers, IMHO. The Pioneer speakers don't fit that category...
it's pretty easy to find speakers with sensitivity in the 88-90db range at a reasonable price point. The BIC speakers are rated much higher than that and they aren't very expensive at all.

Then there's money left over for a mid-ranged receiver to gain not only extra watts, but extra features like Wifi connectivity, better GUI, Air-play (for you I-phone/I-pad users) more connections, Audio Return Channel etc.

The secret is to buy last years model of mid-range AVR and they're usually fairly well discounted. For example, in 2012 I ordered the Denon AVR-1911, which was a $600 MSRP in 2011, for a mere $400 toward the later half of 2012. What ended up happening is that they ran out of 1911's and sent me a 1912 for the same price. MAJOR SCORE! Saved $200! And now I had Wifi, full Auddessy (not XT but the standard one), ARC, more connections than I needed and 7.1 instead of a mere 5.1 on the entry level models. All features that I'm using with the exception of the extra 2 speakers, but I plan on using them in the future.

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If his room is big enough, the P363's are on sale for $100 at Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0046A8R3M/...=ATVPDKIKX0DER
That looks like a good price on those Infinities. I'd jump on that in a second.

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it's pretty easy to find speakers with sensitivity in the 88-90db range at a reasonable price point. The BIC speakers are rated much higher than that and they aren't very expensive at all.

Then there's money left over for a mid-ranged receiver to gain not only extra watts, but extra features like Wifi connectivity, better GUI, Air-play (for you I-phone/I-pad users) more connections, Audio Return Channel etc.

The secret is to buy last years model of mid-range AVR and they're usually fairly well discounted. For example, in 2012 I ordered the Denon AVR-1911, which was a $600 MSRP in 2011, for a mere $400 toward the later half of 2012. What ended up happening is that they ran out of 1911's and sent me a 1912 for the same price. MAJOR SCORE! Saved $200! And now I had Wifi, full Auddessy (not XT but the standard one), ARC, more connections than I needed and 7.1 instead of a mere 5.1 on the entry level models. All features that I'm using with the exception of the extra 2 speakers, but I plan on using them in the future.
I will stand by my assertion.,,with a limited budget, you are best off spending more on speakers and less on an AV rec! With a 1500 dollar budget, I WOULD NOT spend 600 on a reciever....
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I will stand by my assertion.,,with a limited budget, you are best off spending more on speakers and less on an AV rec! With a 1500 dollar budget, I WOULD NOT spend 600 on a reciever....
And as I said, it depends on the user, their situation and what features they feel they need. For some people, the presence of something like Wifi or ARC may necessitate a step up. (though these days, features like Wifi and ARC should appear even on entry level receivers)

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Well, we are not really disagree on anything. Sure, if you have the budget, get the best AV reciever you can. For the op, I would just recommend that he not spend 600/1500 dollars on an Avr when he can get pretty good for 300...like the Denon 1613.
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