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What type of speakers should I buy?

Hi Folks,

I just bought my a sony 4k tv for my hubby and now he wants surround sound.

He wants to go with a name he knows...Bose

What do you think of these??
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...nativetaste-20

Thanks!
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Overpriced, low quality, terrible sound quality, and not upgradable. Get a Yamaha AV amp and 5.1 speakers. Something like a Yamaha 675 and Q Acoustics.

http://www.creative-audio.co.uk/HD.p...QUEID=54545535

100% better than Bose rubbish. That's a UK retailer so look in your own country

Krell Evolution 900e x 7

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The link doesn't work for me. Depends on the room where the tv will be and the budget you would like to spend for the speakers. There are a ton of options. You have come to the right place. I am not an expert by any means. The other posters here on the forum will ask for more details. The room size and shape, how much movies vs music you will use the speakers for. This all comes into play when considering speakers for the home theater. Good luck on your speaker purchase
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bose=over priced junk
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I just bought my a sony 4k tv for my hubby and now he wants surround sound.

He wants to go with a name he knows...Bose

Thanks! Sophie
I would skip the Bose -
What are your size restrictions for speakers and sub - and your max budget?

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The link doesn't work for me. Depends on the room where the tv will be and the budget you would like to spend for the speakers. There are a ton of options. You have come to the right place. I am not an expert by any means. The other posters here on the forum will ask for more details. The room size and shape, how much movies vs music you will use the speakers for. This all comes into play when considering speakers for the home theater. Good luck on your speaker purchase
Pretty much any $2000 5.1 or 7.1 system will outclass Bose, and sound massively better, if you're not too fussed about buying a specific brand, speakers/amp etc.. Something like at least standmounts all around, with good sub and a $300 AV amplifier. Able to use more sources, own speaker cables, etc.

Even Wharfedale DX-1 + denon amp would outclass the Bose, and that's about 4x cheaper LOL

http://www.creative-audio.co.uk/HD.p...UEID=576765656

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As menition, Bose is overpriced and won't sound as good as many systems at 1/2 the price. And the the Bose lifesytle system uses tiny cubes and an undersized base module/subwoofer and absolutely no tweeters. So it won't produce decent lows, will have almost no highs and even the midrange If you are will to spend the same dollar on an alternate system and willing to spend a little while on set up and correction, you can get a very decent system for 2000 dollars!

i would recommend a budget of 300 for the AV-Rec, 500 for the subwoofer and 1200 for 5 speakers. Not sure if you are in the US or not, so hard to recommend speakers...

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I would skip the Bose -
What are your size restrictions for speakers and sub - and your max budget?
Thanks for the replies.

Is there usually an exchange policy on speakers?

If i buy non bose speakers and my husband does not like them will i be able to return them?

Also would I be able to mix it up and get a different brands.

Fo example a bose speakers and A Denon AVR-X2000 reciever?

Maybe try this link for the previous speakers. They are really expensive and I do not think they are in my budget.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...nativetaste-20
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For around your budget based on the Bose price you may want to look at this:

http://www.audioholics.com/recommend...d-home-theater

I would probably look at a decent receiver vs the Emotiva seperates for ease of use and setup (plus the savings on cables) but otherwise this would make for a nice setup for about the same amount of coin as the Bose and will deliver a much better experience. They have some other system setup examples ranging from $1K and up that may be worth looking at as well.

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I would skip the Bose -
What are your size restrictions for speakers and sub - and your max budget?
Thanks for the replies.

Is there usually an exchange policy on speakers?

If i buy non bose speakers and my husband does not like them will i be able to return them?

Also would I be able to mix it up and get a different brands.

Fo example a bose speakers and A Denon AVR-X2000 reciever?

Maybe try this link for the previous speakers. They are really expensive and I do not think they are in my budget.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...nativetaste-20
You're not going to get people to agree with you regarding Bose, sorry.

Trust me if you buy Bose, and hear a system 5 times cheaper than the Bose you'd feel sick...ripped off..especially if you're saving up $2000.

That Q Acoustics and Yamaha will sound so much better, build quality.

Bose is like a rusty old Yugo.
Q Acoustics and Yamah is like BMW

Krell Evolution 900e x 7

Bose Jewel speakers.

 

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Either those Amazon reviews for that Bose system are fakes, or those people don't know any better. How can they possibly write that those speakers offer superb dynamics and superb sound quality while keeping a straight face? That's like saying Budweiser makes amazing beer or that Comcast has amazing customer service.
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Hi Folks,

I just bought my a sony 4k tv for my hubby and now he wants surround sound.

He wants to go with a name he knows...Bose

What do you think of these??
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...nativetaste-20

Thanks!
Sophie
Sophie, he needs to know some other names. There are countless options and all of them better than Bose. I can recommend the ones I use which are these. And, as I said, there are thousands of excellent options beside these.
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A few brands top of my head

B&W
Kef
Q Acoustics
Celestion
Mission
Energy
Dali
Paradigm
Monitor Audio
Tannoy
NHT
JM Labs
Focal
Definitive Technology
SVS
HSU
Rocket
Ascend
Castle
Wharfedale

Yamaha
Denon
Marantz
Arcam
Harmon/Kardon
Pioneer
Onkyo

Any of them would be better than Bose system.

Build quality
Component quality
Connectivity
Sound quality
Upgradability
Value for money

Krell Evolution 900e x 7

Bose Jewel speakers.

 

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sophie, before you do jump into a purchase, there is a lot to read on AVS.
but you might also look at local meets in your area. there you and hubby can listen and discuss
several different set ups as well as listen to some equipment. some bestbuys have theaters set
up in their stores if you have one near you.
this way you can decide how much you want to get into making a theater or just a small home setup.
AVR audio video receiver, starts $200 up to your wallet size
sub- subwoofer, a fair one starts about $200 up to rediculousness and size
7.1-7 speakers one sub
5.1-5 speakers one sub

home theater meets http://www.avsforum.com/forum/61-are...theater-meets/
study links here Setting Up Your Home Theater 101

I run a Sony AVR myself, but many here dislike Sony.
it works fine for 7.1 and a mix of three pairs of speakers from different makers and shakes my house.
most newer AVRs will adjust the pairs of speakers to your room size.
there is also a do it yourself section if you want to adventure into your own building of speakers.
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-diy-speakers-subs/
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Thanks for the replies.

Is there usually an exchange policy on speakers?

If i buy non bose speakers and my husband does not like them will i be able to return them?

Also would I be able to mix it up and get a different brands.

Fo example a bose speakers and A Denon AVR-X2000 reciever?
Yes most places have a 30 day return policy

You can save some money and get some good sound.

NHT SuperZero package
http://www.nhthifi.com/bookshelf-spe...&category=3780

Promo code for 10% off
http://www.nhthifi.com/

Also, the EMP 5.1 surround package
http://emptek.com/cinema5.php

And, the Denon X2000 has a good price here
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_033AVX2...x2000&skipvs=T

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The NHT package would be a very nice choice - if you can expand the budget a little this 5.1 set from HSU (a very well respected internet direct company) will give you tremendous impact and serious low end from a true sub:

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/value2pkg.html

Add the Denon reciever from Crutchfield, $50 - $100 worth of cables and speaker wire from monoprice.com, and a little extra time spent hooking everything up and you'll still be several hundred below the Bose system with a setup that will make the Bose sound like a 1950's transistor radio. With a high end display like you have it would be criminal to get anything less for the sound system.
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I say just give your husband a $2,000 budget to spend on his HT system.
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Hi Sophie,
If you live in an area where you have access to a brick and mortar store, go and listen to the different systems. Some will even allow you to audition equipment at home (rare, but I have actually found one in my area and this is where I make my purchases). Bose is not the way to go for quality sound. Also I have found Crutchfield to be on the high side with their pricing.
Brands that have reasonably priced equipment (examples):
AV receivers - Pioneer, Denon, Yamaha
Speakers: Golden Ear, Definitive, Focal, Kef
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Hi Folks,

I just bought my a sony 4k tv for my hubby and now he wants surround sound.

He wants to go with a name he knows...Bose

What do you think of these??
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...nativetaste-20

Thanks!
Sophie

You can get a lot better sound for your money with other systems. Give AV Science a call and we would be happy to help you. Need to know budget, size restrictions, number of speakers needed (5.1 or 7.1), type of speaker and several other questions to make a good recommendation. Any way, we would be happy to help you.

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I say just give your husband a $2,000 budget to spend on his HT system.
Except he was the one that was asking for Blose in the first place!
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Except he was the one that was asking for Blose in the first place!
Yikes! I missed that part.

Okay, so the husband doesn't really know any better.

In that case, NHT has a Father's Day 10% off sale and has free shipping both ways (also free 30-day returns). Get him 5 NHT SuperZero monitors and 1 NHT 8" subwoofer for $719 (10% discount, free shipping). This will unequivocally sound 100% better than the Bose.

http://www.nhthifi.com/bookshelf-spe...ound-5-1?ext=F

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I say just give your husband a $2,000 budget to spend on his HT system.
Considering her husband said he wants to go with a name he knows - Bose, I don't have much confidence that giving him $2K to make his own purchase is a good ideal.

At least Sophie has the foresight to ask questions here.

This package would blow away the Bose system for $800 plus receiver. Actually $720 with 10% discount.
http://www.nhthifi.com/bookshelf-spe...&category=3830


Even better, put together your own setup.


Denon x2000 for $399 - good choice
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_033AVX2...nd.html?tp=179

SVS PB1000 subwoofer for $500 - good choice
http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/po...0#.U6EED_ldV8E

that leaves $1100 for 5 speakers, cables and wire. That should be pretty easy to do.

5 NHT Superzero for $500
http://www.nhthifi.com/Bookshelf-spe...&category=3772

4 HTD Level Two speakers and matching center, $529 plus shipping. Under $600
http://www.htd.com/Products/level-tw...shelf-Speakers
http://www.htd.com/Products/level-tw...hannel-Speaker

4 Ascend Acoustics CBM-170SE and CMT-340 center, $900 plus shipping
http://ascendacoustics.com/pages/pro...70/cbm170.html
http://ascendacoustics.com/pages/pro...c/cmt340c.html

4 PSB Image B4 and C4 center. $510
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_760IMGB...rk-Cherry.html
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_760IMGC...rk-Cherry.html

4 Cambridge S30 bookshelf and S50 center, $600
http://www.accessories4less.com/make...ark-oak/1.html
http://www.accessories4less.com/make...ark-oak/1.html

4 Boston Acoustic A26 speakers. $400 plus matching center $150
http://www.accessories4less.com/make...s-black/1.html

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Also look at Focal speakers.

2 pair of Chorus 705V, $700
http://www.musicdirect.com/p-41245-f...ce=igodigital&

Chorus CC700 center, $350
http://www.accessories4less.com/make...-havana/1.html

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Either those Amazon reviews for that Bose system are fakes, or those people don't know any better. How can they possibly write that those speakers offer superb dynamics and superb sound quality while keeping a straight face? That's like saying Budweiser makes amazing beer or that Comcast has amazing customer service.
I want to address this because I think you guys get a little myopic sometimes. I agree, bose is not good for the price. I disagree that they are total junk. They just aren't worth the price they are asking.
To a regular person that is buying a large tv and want a simple HT solution bose is the top pick for them because, yes, they don't know any better. A lot of people want something simple and that sounds good. Not everyone is looking for reference sound. We can try an educate folks but some people like how they sound.
IMO, that system should be about $800.
So, to the OP, if your husband likes the bose, then follow these guys advice and piece together a system using quality parts. You'll get a higher quality end result you're husband will more than likely enjoy it.

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I want to address this because I think you guys get a little myopic sometimes. I agree, bose is not good for the price. I disagree that they are total junk. They just aren't worth the price they are asking.

IMO, that system should be about $800.
Myopic?

For $800?

Infinity P153 x 5 speakers = $250
Infinity PS38 subwoofer = $200
Total = $450

So Bose should be about $400 for 5 speakers + 1 subwoofer. Oh, wait, Bose doesn't have a sub. It's a "bass" module that only plays down to about 60Hz. At -10dB.

Oh my goodness, here is a myopic $1200 JBL system on sale for only $350 (free shipping) that will be better than the Bose system:

http://www.amazon.com/JBL-CS6100BG-H...ardon+speakers

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Myopic?

For $800?

Infinity P153 x 5 speakers = $250
Infinity PS38 subwoofer = $200
Total = $450

So Bose should be about $400 for 5 speakers + 1 subwoofer. Oh, wait, Bose doesn't have a sub. It's a "bass" module that only plays down to about 60Hz. At -10dB.

Oh my goodness, here is a myopic $1200 JBL system on sale for only $350 (free shipping) that will be better than the Bose system:

http://www.amazon.com/JBL-CS6100BG-H...ardon+speakers
I don't know why you're getting your panties in a wad.
My point is that it's a convenience package. It's not reference and most here know that. For my grandfather or father or uncle, it's fine. They don't know any better and don't care, they look good to them and sound good to them. It's small and simple for them to setup. BTW they don't have this I'm using them as illustration. They are the average consumer.
IMO, yes, $800 for that setup would be acceptable.
Could you buy better? Sure, no one is arguing you can't. In this case I agree, she should piece the system together. It's why I wrote that in my response.
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I don't know why you're getting your panties in a wad.
My point is that it's a convenience package. It's not reference and most here know that. For my grandfather or father or uncle, it's fine. They don't know any better and don't care, they look good to them and sound good to them. It's small and simple for them to setup. BTW they don't have this I'm using them as illustration. They are the average consumer.
IMO, yes, $800 for that setup would be acceptable.
Could you buy better? Sure, no one is arguing you can't. In this case I agree, she should piece the system together. It's why I wrote that in my response.
And I don't know why you choose insult people.

Myopic? Panties in a wad?

If people want something simple, look at the JBL system I just linked. It's $350 delivered and comes with all five speakers and one subwoofer. That is convenient. Is it not?

And for people craving name brand, just tell them JBL also makes $80,000 speakers.

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Years ago this place saved me from making a similar mistake, stay away from home theater in a box. For ~$2000 my current system consists of 2 JBL L880s, 1 JBL LC1, 2 JBL L810s and a Rythmik LV12R sub, it destroys my buddies HTiB which is similar to the one you linked.

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And I don't know why you choose insult people.

Myopic? Panties in a wad?

If people want something simple, look at the JBL system I just linked. It's $350 delivered and comes with all five speakers and one subwoofer. That is convenient. Is it not?

And for people craving name brand, just tell them JBL also makes $80,000 speakers.
Not insulting anyone. It's just something I've noticed in this forum from some members. If anyone chooses to be insulted, that's not my problem.

As to the JBL, yes, it's a nice satellite system.
Here's what your average consumer is going to say. They'll want to know how they will get sound so I show them the receiver. "Oh, that doesn't look attractive at all! It's a lot larger than the bose."
Then you tell them how to set it up. "I don't want to mess with settings. I want to have something I can plug in."
But it will sound better. "The bose sound good to me. Why should I mess with anything else?"
And on, and on, and on.
Like it or not, Bose is here to stay and they are marketing their stuff to the right crowd. I fight a never ending battle with people who are not very knowledgable on this stuff. Sometimes marketing wins. It is what it is.
Understand your audience.
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Years ago this place saved me from making a similar mistake, stay away from home theater in a box. For ~$2000 my current system consists of 2 JBL L880s, 1 JBL LC1, 2 JBL L810s and a Rythmik LV12R sub, it destroys my buddies HTiB which is similar to the one you linked.
And that's my point. Not everyone is trying to have the largest, close to reference setup. I was really speaking more broadly as to this forum and I have taken this thread off topic so I apologize.
I have already suggested that the OP follow the recommendations of others on this thread.
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