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New Speakers/Receiver ($300 for speakers, 4-500 receiver)

Hello all,

Im moving and looking to get a decent home theater setup (moving to a town home apartment)

I dont want to go crazy, im looking at doing at least a few bookshelves, and possibly a sub.

Does a center speaker add anything to the equation? Is there an advantage to 3.1 vs 2.1?

Im looking at spending probably 300 or so for the speakers, and the amp im really not sure where to look, but $400-500 seems acceptable. It would prefer to be able to buy the receiver at best buy so i can finance it along with my TV but this is not a necessity

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I will add that i would like to get speakers that will at least be a decent building point to move to rear when im able to buy some towers in a few years when i move into a more permanent residence
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For bookshelf speakers I love my Usher S520's
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For bookshelf speakers I love my Usher S520's
Those look like decent speakers but new price theyre a bit out of my range. Amazon has them listed over $400
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the Receiver and sub look tempting, Im not looking to go into a 5.1 setup right now however because i would have speaker wire everywhere and dont really have a good way to set up a 5.1 system. Right now people would be sitting right next to the rears which is undesirable. I would prefer to spend the full amount on a few good bookshelves
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the Receiver and sub look tempting, Im not looking to go into a 5.1 setup right now however because i would have speaker wire everywhere and dont really have a good way to set up a 5.1 system. Right now people would be sitting right next to the rears which is undesirable. I would prefer to spend the full amount on a few good bookshelves
Well, for 3.1, I would just get three of the P163 monitors ($86 x 3 = $258).


http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Primu...=infinity+p163


In this $300 range, I don't think you will get any better.
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I'm with AcuDef. Take some money out of the receiver budget (receivers have little to do with sound quality) and put them in the speakers. Then you can buy a pair of these http://emptek.com/e5bi.php and use the balance for a subwoofer. That will blow away anything in the price range that doesn't include a sub. That's a promise. These little bookshelf speakers are absolutely amazing for the price. I use a pair of them as computer speakers and pair them with an inexpensive BIC subwoofer. Really amazing for the money.
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I'm with AcuDef. Take some money out of the receiver budget (receivers have little to do with sound quality) and put them in the speakers. Then you can buy a pair of these http://emptek.com/e5bi.php and use the balance for a subwoofer. That will blow away anything in the price range that doesn't include a sub. That's a promise. These little bookshelf speakers are absolutely amazing for the price. I use a pair of them as computer speakers and pair them with an inexpensive BIC subwoofer. Really amazing for the money.
A sub is one thing that when i get it i want it to be quality. No reference level but good. Its something i would expect to keep when i invest more money into towers. The speakers you linked are below my price mark anyways, the only variable would be the sub
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You don't need towers if you use a subwoofer.
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Well, just save up some money and get ALL high quality speakers, sub, and AVR, instead of having to upgrade everything later.
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Ok so if we take my original high end budget of 800 and i get the denon x1000 and the e5bi speakers that leaves me with roughly $300. Is the infinity sub that was linked earlier the best match for these speakers in that price range?
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Im looking at spending probably 300 or so for the speakers, and the amp im really not sure where to look, but $400-500 seems acceptable. It would prefer to be able to buy the receiver at best buy so i can finance it along with my TV but this is not a necessity
When you are at Best Buy, check out the new Sony Core speakers - they are nice.
They are Not like the former Sony cheap/cheapy sounding stuff, from the past.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-cor...&skuId=5721014

If you like them - then maybe that can free yourself to get a good price on a Denon
receiver from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-X100...ds=denon+x1000

http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-X200...ds=denon+x2000

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I would also look at the JBL ES250P sub
http://www.jbl.com/estore/jbl/us/pro...atId=cat140013

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When you are at Best Buy, check out the new Sony Core speakers - they are nice.
They are Not like the former Sony cheap/cheapy sounding stuff, from the past.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-cor...&skuId=5721014

If you like them - then maybe that can free yourself to get a good price on a Denon
receiver from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-X100...ds=denon+x1000

http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-X200...ds=denon+x2000
Those speakers intrigue me, theres not much information in terms of reviews on them, they must be rather new
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Those speakers intrigue me, theres not much information in terms of reviews on them, they must be rather new
They are new - however Sony put a lot of work in them - they sound nice to me.
They are open, clean/clear with some nice detail - at least, check them out.

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Does your budget of $300 include a sub or just the speakers?


If you're willing to push your budget to $500 for LCR's the Ascend Acoustics CBM-170's are a really nice speaker. I got to hear them last weekend as I helped piece together a nice system for my buddy.


http://ascendacoustics.com/pages/pro...70/cbm170.html


He used the CMT-340's for his LCR and the 170's for his rears, I after hearing them I think they'd make a really nice setup.
Not too mention down the road you could get the CMT-340's and use those as your mains and move the 170's to the rear for surrounds.
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Does your budget of $300 include a sub or just the speakers?


If you're willing to push your budget to $500 for LCR's the Ascend Acoustics CBM-170's are a really nice speaker. I got to hear them last weekend as I helped piece together a nice system for my buddy.


http://ascendacoustics.com/pages/pro...70/cbm170.html


He used the CMT-340's for his LCR and the 170's for his rears, I after hearing them I think they'd make a really nice setup.
Not too mention down the road you could get the CMT-340's and use those as your mains and move the 170's to the rear for surrounds.

The 300 i quoted was just for the speakers. Perhaps i would be better off saying i have a budget of 800 or so for 2 speakers + receiver. I would add a sub later on due to cost and im not sure if id really need one in an apartment settings, those low frequencies tend to pass through walls easier so i may not want to do a sub at all for a while
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For super cheap, you can't beat the Energy Take Classic. http://www.rakuten.com/prod/energy-b...TDkCYxDyfw_wcB 5.1 system for 400$

Onkyo TX-809 Reciever 

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Emotiva XPR-5 Amp.

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Perhaps i would be better off saying i have a budget of 800 or so for 2 speakers + receiver. I would add a sub later on due to cost and im not sure if id really need one in an apartment settings, those low frequencies tend to pass through walls easier so i may not want to do a sub at all for a while
That is a good strong point to consider (holding off on the sub)

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Well if you're willing to push your budget to $500 the 170's for Ascend are an excellent speaker IMO.
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Well if you're willing to push your budget to $500 the 170's for Ascend are an excellent speaker IMO.
im confused where your getting the $500 amount from? the linked site you provided has them at $298/pair
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im confused where your getting the $500 amount from? the linked site you provided has them at $298/pair
So go to the website and under speakers there's a package tab. Select the 170's L&R and a 170 as your center. It will then give you a price of $458 plus $52 shipping. Sorry, so $510.
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So go to the website and under speakers there's a package tab. Select the 170's L&R and a 170 as your center. It will then give you a price of $458 plus $52 shipping. Sorry, so $510.
Oh got it, how important is that center channel?
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Oh got it, how important is that center channel?

Well for music not important IMO, for movies very important IMO.
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Can these 170's be mounted on bookshelf speaker stands? like these? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpa...eys&st=5797757

Also im curious why you would recommend the 170 as a center channel? It wont fit in the slot in my tv stand and they do have a center channel
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Can these 170's be mounted on bookshelf speaker stands? like these? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpa...eys&st=5797757

Also im curious why you would recommend the 170 as a center channel? It wont fit in the slot in my tv stand and they do have a center channel
You could use those stands but at 18" high the speaker would be pretty low. Typically you want to have the tweeter at around ear level.
The 340 would be a better center channel, but the 170's would still work fine.
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Cool Thanks for all the help! I did order the core series speakers from BB before you recommended the 170's. Do you know one way or another if the sonys would be competitive with the 170's?
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Has anyone had the ability to compare the ascendacoustics to the new sony core series?
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