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Front height speaker recommendations

Hey everyone. My current setup is as follows:

Pioneer 1123-k Receiver
2x Klipsch RF-62 II Fronts
1x Klipsch RC-62 II Center
2x Klipsch RS-52 II Surrounds
1x Klipsch SW-310 Sub

What would a good option be for adding two front height speakers? Would two Klipsch RB-41 II's be a good match for my system?


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Hey everyone. My current setup is as follows:

Pioneer 1123-k Receiver
2x Klipsch RF-62 II Fronts
1x Klipsch RC-62 II Center
2x Klipsch RS-52 II Surrounds
1x Klipsch SW-310 Sub

What would a good option be for adding two front height speakers? Would two Klipsch RB-41 II's be a good match for my system?


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I would make the front heights the same as your surrounds. The RS-52's.

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I would make the front heights the same as your surrounds. The RS-52's.
Really? I was under the impression that direct radiating speakers were recommended for Front Height?

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Fronts could go around 32" off the floor. Center right under the tv. Rear's about 52" above your seating position if you can. The sub do not place up front next to the tv stand. Try it in different spots around the room. That will mean retuning the setup each time you move the sub, so you can find the best place for best bass response.
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Fronts could go around 32" off the floor. Center right under the tv. Rear's about 52" above your seating position if you can. The sub do not place up front next to the tv stand. Try it in different spots around the room. That will mean retuning the setup each time you move the sub, so you can find the best place for best bass response.
Huh??

I think you're very confused. I'm not asking about how to set up my system. I'm asking about what type of speaker to use for the Front Height channel when using Pro Logic IIz. Not how high my front speakers should be, lol. My system is already set up and sounds excellent.
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I'd go with the RB-61 II. They are direct-radiating and driver-match your front speakers.

I don't have a Klipsch setup, but I driver-matched my DefTech setup with very good results with nearly seamless sound movement across the front sound-stage.

Good flicks to test your new setup on are The Avengers, Expendables 2, and Oblivion using DTS Neo:X processing.

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Really? I was under the impression that direct radiating speakers were recommended for Front Height?
Oh snap, those are the RS not RB. Totally thought they were the bookshelf version, not the bipole.

Yeah, I would go for the Bookshelf speakers that matched your fronts, as suggested above. I was thinking you wanted the same speaker as your surrounds for sounds that pan across the sound field (such as helicopters flying overhead) so there wouldn't be obvious tonal changes when panning from speaker to speaker, but yeah, in this case you want direct radiating vs bipole

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The Klipsch RB 51II's will match your RS 52II's. As you can see that's what I went with and the sound is awesome.

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The Klipsch RB 51II's will match your RS 52II's. As you can see that's what I went with and the sound is awesome.
Thanks. I will likely go with the RB-52s.

What did you use to hang yours?
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Thanks. I will likely go with the RB-52s.

What did you use to hang yours?

I just put a screw in the wall stud with a head just slightly smaller than the keyhole mount of the speaker. They are mounted 36 inches from the top of the RF 82 II's, and with them being on the wall they of course set back about 18 inches from the front of the 82's. Once I did heights it really opened up the front soundstage.

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I would get whatever is on sale. Heights, wides and rear surrounds don't play anything but background noises. Nothing demanding. So there's no point in spending a lot on them. The main 5.1 is where speaker quality really matters. I had one of my height channels go bad on my receiver and I can only tell when playing a test tone.
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I thought wides were additional front speakers to expand the front sound stage, in which case the same sound should come from the wides that comes from your main L/R speakers. heights are like surrounds but for overhead information in the sound field which would be rare in most film content that didnt include a lot of fly-by sound effects.
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I thought wides were additional front speakers to expand the front sound stage, in which case the same sound should come from the wides that comes from your main L/R speakers. heights are like surrounds but for overhead information in the sound field which would be rare in most film content that didnt include a lot of fly-by sound effects.

Those 6 extra channels are fabricated from the 5.1 source. (I guess technically some source is 7.1 and includes the RS, but not much.)


I'm not sure exactly how the sounds are fabricated, but from my experience with my 11.4 setup, they play nothing but background noises. I run plIIx to fabricate the rears and audyssey DSX for the wides and heights. Neo:x may do something differently but it would still have to manufacture those channels. I tried ruuning plIIZ and still the heights didn't do much.


It's nice having the extra channels in that it seems to fill the room more and maybe once a year you actually get a real effect from the heights, but I don't see any point in spending a lot on those speakers.
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Heights, Widths, and BSR are all just filler channels, that only expands the soundstage to make it fuller. 90% of the DVD's are 5.1 only with 10% adding the EX to the sound field. Blu-ray's are really no different. Most are HD Master 5.1 with less being HD Master 7.1. Whether you use the DD PLII or a simulated effect like Yamaha's 3D DSP modes your just enhancing the sound field and it does make a difference, of course your HT environment will play a big part into how much you notice that difference.

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