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Need Help with 5.1 System and AVR for $1500ish

I need some help picking out a system that will be used about equally for movies, music, and gaming. I'd rather stay away from towers as they take up a lot of space. The room will be about 13' x 15' that extends into the kitchen.

I've been keeping my eye on the Def Tech Procinema 800 for awhile now with the Denon X2000 Reciever. I'm just not totally sure if this is the best value I can get for $1500.

I've been seeing some other brands like svs and infinity. I just need some advice from someone who has experience in this as this is my first "serious" system.

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I need some help picking out a system that will be used about equally for movies, music, and gaming. I'd rather stay away from towers as they take up a lot of space. The room will be about 13' x 15' that extends into the kitchen.

I've been keeping my eye on the Def Tech Procinema 800 for awhile now with the Denon X2000 Reciever. I'm just not totally sure if this is the best value I can get for $1500.

I've been seeing some other brands like svs and infinity. I just need some advice from someone who has experience in this as this is my first "serious" system.

Thanks
I'd go with five NHT SuperZeros (if you have space for one of them as your center) and an SVS sub. The NHTs are fantastic and don't take up a lot of space.

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I'd go with five NHT SuperZeros (if you have space for one of them as your center) and an SVS sub. The NHTs are fantastic and don't take up a lot of space.
What are the advantages of going with this setup rather than the def tech? I feel like the def tech 800 has a nice center piece. Wouldn't using a satellite speaker as a center piece perform poorly? The SVS sub looks like a good idea, as I was worried about the def tech sub.
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I've been keeping my eye on the Def Tech Procinema 800 for awhile now with the Denon X2000 Reciever.
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I think the Def Tech promonitor is abit over priced for what you get, just my opinion (and def tech doesn't make a great sub). I would recommend EMPtek E5bi or Ascend acoustic htm170s, both around 200/pr and a SVS or Rythmics sub.
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I need some help picking out a system that will be used about equally for movies, music, and gaming. I'd rather stay away from towers as they take up a lot of space. The room will be about 13' x 15' that extends into the kitchen.

I've been keeping my eye on the Def Tech Procinema 800 for awhile now with the Denon X2000 Reciever. I'm just not totally sure if this is the best value I can get for $1500.

I've been seeing some other brands like svs and infinity. I just need some advice from someone who has experience in this as this is my first "serious" system.

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How big is the total space we are talking about?

Keep in mind, speakers don't "see" the line between your living space and the kitchen. They just "want" to try to fill up all that space.

I would think some Infinity P163's and a PC351 might be good choices depending on your space. Then something like a HSU, Outlaw or other Internet Direct sub.
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Do you really want small speakers?
That's what I was thinking. I will probably be able to go bigger, but I'm trying to stay away from those large towers. Basically I don't want to overwhelm the room with huge speakers, but I am willing to go a bit bigger as the def tech are very small.
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How big is the total space we are talking about?

Keep in mind, speakers don't "see" the line between your living space and the kitchen. They just "want" to try to fill up all that space.

I would think some Infinity P163's and a PC351 might be good choices depending on your space. Then something like a HSU, Outlaw or other Internet Direct sub.
The kitchen space is what I'm worried about the most. That's why I am worried about def tech. Those Infinity speakers look like a nice deal. I like the price and the look of them. They are also not outrageously bigger than the def tech speakers. 4 * $86 for the bookshelves + $200 for the center leaves me at $544. Now I am seeing a lot of good things about the SVS PB-1000 sub. It looks like it'll definitely deliver the punch that the def tech sub wouldn't. That leaves me at $1044. Does this setup seem pretty good, and superior to def tech 800? And also, would the Denon X2000 still be a good receiver for this setup?
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The kitchen space is what I'm worried about the most. That's why I am worried about def tech. Those Infinity speakers look like a nice deal. I like the price and the look of them. They are also not outrageously bigger than the def tech speakers. 4 * $86 for the bookshelves + $200 for the center leaves me at $544. Now I am seeing a lot of good things about the SVS PB-1000 sub. It looks like it'll definitely deliver the punch that the def tech sub wouldn't. That leaves me at $1044. Does this setup seem pretty good, and superior to def tech 800? And also, would the Denon X2000 still be a good receiver for this setup?
That would work well, I think the Infinity speakers will be a step up compared to the DefTechs, there is only so much a small satellite can do; you can't cheat physics.

And yes, the X2000 at the $400 price is excellent value and lets you expand in the future.

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Save yourself a few more bucks.

The P163 is on sale for $60.

http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Primu...&keywords=p163

Buy the receiver through Crutchfield using MrRebates or eBates.

http://evreward.com/store/go/608

Crutchfield is a fabulous company with great customer support and you will also save a few bucks this way.

Same thing for the PC351, buy that through Crutchfield.

All in all, this will save you over $100, which you might even use to upgrade to an even better sub.

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Save yourself a few more bucks.

The P163 is on sale for $60.

http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Primu...&keywords=p163

Buy the receiver through Crutchfield using MrRebates or eBates.

http://evreward.com/store/go/608

Crutchfield is a fabulous company with great customer support and you will also save a few bucks this way.

Same thing for the PC351, buy that through Crutchfield.

All in all, this will save you over $100, which you might even use to upgrade to an even better sub.
I would love to get it for $60. But I don't see that anywhere. It just says $86 (which is $54 off the original price of $140). Enlighten me if I'm missing something.
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I would love to get it for $60. But I don't see that anywhere. It just says $86 (which is $54 off the original price of $140). Enlighten me if I'm missing something.
My bad, I posted the wrong link. Sorry!

I have fixed it but here it is:

http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Primu...&keywords=p163
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Polk RTi6's RTi4's and a CSi3 would cost about $550 if you bought brand new from the Polk ebay store they should fit your bill and leave you enough for your AVR and then some. The RTi line is a great series of speakers. Look on the forums or on ebay for good deals on used SVS's. You can get a lot more bass for your money shopping used.

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Here is an almost brand new Denon. Very comparable to the X2000 if not the same. I have the same one in a box but a 2112. The only thing is they don't have pre outs for an amp.

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As PSB is phasing out the Image line, now is an excellent time to buy. At least as of last month many places had the Image speakers for about 50% off. You could check out crutchfield, but also call your local dealers. I've got 9 of them, and they sound great for music / gaming / movies (though my svs subs help a lot in the latter's respect) .

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Here is a great deal on a receiver:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CALM2JY/...d_p=1828157542

Since you are only running a 5.1 system, this offers most of the same features for a lower price. Plus Amazon is an authorized dealer.

Take the money saved on this and get an even better sub.
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