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Speaker Advice - New Home & Home Theater

Hi all,

I am in need of suggestions for speakers for my home theater. Primary use of these speakers is movies, tv shows. That's it. Primarily movies. Bluray, Bluray rips, dvd rips. Some streaming. Budget for speakers is around $2000. As I said these are for movies mainly as we watch A LOT.

I have a fairly new Denon AVR-1912, a Polk PSW110 sub and (5) crappy Yamaha speakers from an old HTIB.

So, below you will see two pictures of the living room. This home is nearly finished being built. I might also mention it's my first home.

The nook where the tv and cabinet will be is 10 feet wide. I am planning on mounting a Samsung PN64F8500 on the wall with a cabinet below it. Center channal on cabinet with fronts on the sides of the cabinet.

From where the new tv will be mounted in the nook straigh back is 25 feet. the width of the living room is approx. 20 feet.
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We are having custom cellular blackout shades installed on all the windows so glare won't be an issue with the tv.

All suggestions welcome. Thank you.
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Congrats on the new home!


I would keep the Denon, since you say it is fairly new; I'll check the specs after work. Sell the Yamahas and the Polk subwoofer. No disrespect to Polk as they make great speakers, but a quality SVS would blow that sub out of the water. ( plus your room is quite big meaning a Powerful sub is needed. )


For speakers, there's a thousand options...




From my experience I'd go with the Paradigm Monitor or even the Reference speaker line. ( whichever fits your budget best ) And there is no necessity to buy a pair of towers, as opposed to bookshelves. If you go with a potent sub, the extra drivers present in the towers would not be needed as much.


If you plan on going with an SVS subwoofer it would be a good decision, great bang for your buck sub, like other online speaker/sub companies. I'm sure you will be given many options, but my advice is from personal experience.
Enjoy my friend!!


update- below is an example of what I was referring to originally:


Main Speakers: Paradigm Mini Monitor $600
Center: Paradigm Center 3 $600
Surrounds: Paradigm Atom Monitor $400


Subwoofer: SVS PB-2000 $800


Total ( retail prices ) $2400

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Congrats on the new home!


I would keep the Denon, since you say it is fairly new; I'll check the specs after work. Sell the Yamahas and the Polk subwoofer. No disrespect to Polk as they make great speakers, but a quality SVS would blow that sub out of the water. ( plus your room is quite big meaning a Powerful sub is needed. )


For speakers, there's a thousand options...


From my experience I'd go with the Paradigm Monitor or even the Reference speaker line. ( whichever fits your budget best ) And there is no necessity to buy a pair of towers, as opposed to bookshelves. If you go with a potent sub, the extra drivers present in the towers would not be needed as much.


If you plan on going with an SVS subwoofer it would be a good decision, great bang for your buck sub, like other online speaker/sub companies. I'm sure you will be given many options, but my advice is from personal experience.
Enjoy my friend!!
Very good advise.
I will second the SVS, also Power Sound Audio seem to be another great bang for the $
For the speakers I would also take a look at the offering from aperion.

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I would go for dual subwoofers in a room of that size. Not for louder bass, but to smooth out the response, so the bass sounds even throughout more of the room. In that budget I would take a look at a Hsu 5.1 package. I would go for a Hybrid 2 5.1 package but with the addition of another VTF2 sub, for a 5.2 package. That should come in around $2k. The Hsu speakers will be able to handle a room of that size with no problems, as well as the subs.
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I don't know much about the technical side of speakers or receivers but here is a link with the specs: http://av-receiver-review.toptenrevi...2-details.html

Honestly, I have no idea what good or great sounding speakers are for movies. I'm far from rich, recently thought Bose sounded good and have to buy all this a piece at a time. I could do the Paradigm Monitor speakers like the Center 3, Monitor 7 or mini monitor for the fronts but what about the rear?

Keep in mind the picture above shows that the ceiling above where the couch will be is slanted. Any thoughts on a good in ceiling speaker? Or the surround 1 or 3 for the rear?
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Wow, I have never heard of any of these speaker brands. Shady J, that hybrid 2 package looks doable even with the addition of a second sub.

Any thoughts on smaller rear side speakers? My wife doesn't mind the towers or center in the front but really didn't want large bookshelf speakers in the rear. Any thoughts?
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Wow, I have never heard of any of these speaker brands. Shady J, that hybrid 2 package looks doable even with the addition of a second sub.

Any thoughts on smaller rear side speakers? My wife doesn't mind the towers or center in the front but really didn't want large bookshelf speakers in the rear. Any thoughts?
aperion bookshelf are fairly small!
Not small as BOSE but not overly much bigger.


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Ascend Acoustics have the HTM-200SE, a compact sealed speaker that can be wall or ceiling mounted. They have a pair of 4" woofers with a 1" tweeter between the woofers. Not sure if they are still on sale, but the regular price is $298/pr plus shipping. www.ascendacoustics.com

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aperion bookshelf are fairly small!
Not small as BOSE but not overly much bigger.


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Aperion is an internet direct only company, much like Ascend Acoustics and HSU. Their site is www.aperionaudio.com

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Aperion is an internet direct only company, much like Ascend Acoustics and HSU. Their site is www.aperionaudio.com
How's this sound:CMT-340 SE front pr + CMT-340 SE center + CBM-170 SE rear pr + CBM-170 SE rear pr + CBM-170 SE back center

Delivered $1558

On a scale of 1-10 10 being the best we would these sound like?

I realize to each is own but I am coming from 6 year old yahmaha HTIB speakers just wandering how blown away I would be by these. Down the road I could pair them with the svs sub mentioned earlier.
Do you think my denon avr1912 will drive these Ok?
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Your Denon will drive those just fine. And I think you could do different, but not better than that setup for the money.

Rythmik makes nice subs (same class as SVS and PSA), and you get a discount on them from Ascend when you buy a total speaker package.
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The Ascend speakers are really nice for the money, I helped pick out a system for my buddy recently and he ended up going with Ascend 340's for his LCR's and a pair of the 170's for rears and dual Rythmik LV12R subs that can be ordered through Ascend. That exact system is a little over your $2000 budget, coming in around $2300 after shipping. But I can tell you that it's an awesome setup for that money, you'd have a had time finding another setup under $2500 that would sound better IMO.
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This is great keep the suggestions coming.
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How's this sound:CMT-340 SE front pr + CMT-340 SE center + CBM-170 SE rear pr + CBM-170 SE rear pr + CBM-170 SE back center

Delivered $1558

On a scale of 1-10 10 being the best we would these sound like?

I realize to each is own but I am coming from 6 year old yahmaha HTIB speakers just wandering how blown away I would be by these. Down the road I could pair them with the svs sub mentioned earlier.
Do you think my denon avr1912 will drive these Ok?
Ascend is a great option for you here. I would start with a 5.2 system, and yes the dual subs is a good option in that size space. Three CMT-340s across the front, and a pair of HTM-200 for your surrounds which are compact. Back center speakers aren't a thing anymore, so just stick with the 5 speakers. This should come in right around $1000, with the other $1000, buy two Rythmik LV12R subs. You get a discount for buying 2, and you get a discount if you buy them with Ascend speakers; should put you right at around $2000. This will be an excellent system.

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Ascend is a great option for you here. I would start with a 5.2 system, and yes the dual subs is a good option in that size space. Three CMT-340s across the front, and a pair of HTM-200 for your surrounds which are compact. Back center speakers aren't a thing anymore, so just stick with the 5 speakers. This should come in right around $1000, with the other $1000, buy two Rythmik LV12R subs. You get a discount for buying 2, and you get a discount if you buy them with Ascend speakers; should put you right at around $2000. This will be an excellent system.
LOL.....I don't know why but that suggestion looks strangely familiar...LOL


The CBM-170's are a better speaker though and only $30 more at their current sale price, I would still suggest them over the HTM-200's.
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LOL.....I don't know why but that suggestion looks strangely familiar...LOL


The CBM-170's are a better speaker though and only $30 more at their current sale price, I would still suggest them over the HTM-200's.
I must have read right over your reply! Gotta love Mondays...

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Ascend is a great option for you here. I would start with a 5.2 system, and yes the dual subs is a good option in that size space. Three CMT-340s across the front, and a pair of HTM-200 for your surrounds which are compact. Back center speakers aren't a thing anymore, so just stick with the 5 speakers. This should come in right around $1000, with the other $1000, buy two Rythmik LV12R subs. You get a discount for buying 2, and you get a discount if you buy them with Ascend speakers; should put you right at around $2000. This will be an excellent system.
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Dual LV12Rs would be the way to go in your room. That would be a great sounding setup.

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Well I would like to thank all of you for the suggestions. I honestly have never heard of a single brand you guys mentioned and would have probably ended up with a bug brand name from best buy.
I'll have to wait on the subs a bit but I'm going to go with the above mentioned Ascend system.

Hey why the Rhythmic sub and not the SSD mentioned in the beginning? Curious.
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Depends on which SVS subs. For its price, the LV12R is generally considered one of the best values. If you want to spend more money, you could also look into HSU and PSA subs as well.

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Well I would like to thank all of you for the suggestions. I honestly have never heard of a single brand you guys mentioned and would have probably ended up with a bug brand name from best buy.
I'll have to wait on the subs a bit but I'm going to go with the above mentioned Ascend system.

Hey why the Rhythmic sub and not the SSD mentioned in the beginning? Curious.
The Rythmik LV12R is the best performing sub under $600 IMHO. I have yet to hear anything at that price point that can touch it.
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I'll keep tose in mind for my sub upgrade for sure. Thanks guys.
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I also own Ascend Sierra speakers (Sierra 2's and Horizon center) and they are very detailed and easy on the ears. I also own Rythmik subs and I don't think you can do better for the money. Ascend's customer service is also outstanding .


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Then unless I hear a suggestion for another brand that has many who second it, I'll be going with Ascend. Good quality and good customer service goes a long way with me. You just don't get both too often nowadays.
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Then unless I hear a suggestion for another brand that has many who second it, I'll be going with Ascend. Good quality and good customer service goes a long way with me. You just don't get both too often nowadays.
Yeah. There are some other brands where you could maybe do as well, but not better for the money.

Plus, with the CMT-340 SEs if you can manage them across the front, you get 3 identical tweeters and six identical 6" drivers in your front soundstage, with an excellent timbre match because it's three of the same speaker (better than your typical center channel speaker) . That'll give you some great sound

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I recommended the Ascend 340's because I've personally heard them, and although I haven't heard the HSU speakers they do also get great reviews and are a little cheaper. And IMHO a little nicer looking.


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ID direct only, but they do have a 30 or it 45 (can't remember) days try out at your home.

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Well guys I hope I didn't screw up. I bought my new tv yesterday(PN64F8500) and looked at some speakers. I was planning to buy a Klipsch SB1 or the Energy equivalent to get me by til I could get the Ascend Audio speakers. I ended up buying a pair of B&W 686B without the stands.
He knocked the price down from $550 to $400 the same the soundboard so at least I got a good deal. Plus he took $50 off some Audio Quest speaker wire (12 feet) and $40 off a 3m Forest HDMI cable.
The B&W 686B sounded awesome in the store. I just knew it would be forever until I could get the Ascend speakers.
Did I screw the pooch with the 686B?
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Well guys I hope I didn't screw up. I bought my new tv yesterday(PN64F8500) and looked at some speakers. I was planning to buy a Klipsch SB1 or the Energy equivalent to get me by til I could get the Ascend Audio speakers. I ended up buying a pair of B&W 686B without the stands.
He knocked the price down from $550 to $400 the same the soundboard so at least I got a good deal. Plus he took $50 off some Audio Quest speaker wire (12 feet) and $40 off a 3m Forest HDMI cable.
The B&W 686B sounded awesome in the store. I just knew it would be forever until I could get the Ascend speakers.
Did I screw the pooch with the 686B?

I dunno but i think ascend 340 are more affordable im planning for those in the future ascend sierra 2 ascend 340 se or svs ultra
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I dunno but i think ascend 340 are more affordable im planning for those in the future ascend sierra 2 ascend 340 se or svs ultra
Most of the reason I bought the 686B's was because of my Bestbuy account. 0% for 36 months. That's the reality.

I have just built and purchased my first house in the last two days and I just know that it will always be something that will push the Ascend's aside.

So my logic was get this pair of B&W, then later on I'll buy the Ascend Center channel and use it with the B&W. Then later on(who knows how much later?) I'll end up going with a pair of the Sierra 1's for the fronts and move the 686's to the rear.

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