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You & sdurani are in ideal locations to go If you do go, please post about your experiences.
For anyone attending this listening event, as you are among the first to listen to these speakers outside of Pioneer, can you please also give us your first reaction to listening to STEREO MUSIC on these?
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^ Would also be interested in getting impressions for the up-mixing of 2.0/5.1/7.1 soundtracks to Atmos. How does it compare to PLII/DTS/Neo? Is it better? By how much?

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perhaps will will help hasten bipole/dipoles long-overdue and richly deserved death.
I'm guessing you have never been exposed to the work of designers such as Linkwitz, who have designs far superior to most monopoles.

http://www.linkwitzlab.com/LX521/Description.htm
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I'm guessing you have never been exposed to the work of designers such as Linkwitz, who have designs far superior to most monopoles.

http://www.linkwitzlab.com/LX521/Description.htm
I'm with you. I have also heard wonderful omnidirectional speakers. It all comes down to the skill of the designer, and implementation.
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I'm guessing you have never been exposed to the work of designers such as Linkwitz, who have designs far superior to most monopoles.

http://www.linkwitzlab.com/LX521/Description.htm
I am talking about bipole designs in surrounds which create a deliberately messy and poor sound stage for the purpose of ambience. I don't mean all bipoles, and I have no doubt that Linkwitz would sound very good.
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Chris can you shed some light: Do you know what are the differences between the SC-89 vs SC-87? And will the D3 sound good with the KEF LS50?
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You are very welcome. Yes, I'd expect better speakers to give an even better result. In which case, it will be even more astonishingly good!

The Dolby screening room was a superb experience in its own right. I'd love to see a whole movie in there.
Thank you should write their advertising

I am looking forward to experiencing ATMOS in my home as well I have two in ceiling already so I am ready
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Chris can you shed some light: Do you know what are the differences between the SC-89 vs SC-87? And will the D3 sound good with the KEF LS50?
All you have to do is go download the sped sheet for the 89 from their website.

The upgrades are in bold text.
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Thank you should write their advertising

I am looking forward to experiencing ATMOS in my home as well I have two in ceiling already so I am ready
I've retired now from writing advertising copy, but thanks
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This sort of went quite for a bit.
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There's a whole bunch of discussion in the main Atmos threads. Not sure what else there is to say about the speakers until they hit the shelves.

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This sort of went quite for a bit.
Quite quiet.

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Quite quiet.
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Tom Norton of Sound & Vision attended an Atmos demo "at a Pioneer facility near Long Beach, CA," and had this to say:

"The demo, using Atmos trailers and the first few minutes of Star Trek Into Darkness (all, of course, mastered in Dolby Atmos) was very effective. Sounds came from all around us (well, not the floor—that’s apparently, as yet, an undiscovered country). If I have to make a criticism, it would be that when the going got crushingly complex, as it did in the Trek piece, the busy mix began to sound congested, which could have had any number of causes—the room, the speakers, the mix itself, the high playback level, or some combination of these.

Later we had a chance to listen briefly to just the speakers themselves in two-channel stereo with no sub. I found the smaller stand-mounts more open-sounding, if less extended than the floor-standers. If I don’t wax eloquently about how they sounded, it’s only because I’ve been spoiled by hearing innumerable speakers designed with fewer (or no) price constraints, including TAD models running into six figures. (TAD is Pioneer’s high-end brand, and the new Pioneer Elite Atmos-enabled models sounded as good as they did largely because designer Andrew Jones also designed those TAD speakers. He knows what to listen for, even if at less than 5% of the price of the cheapest TADs he can’t quite equal them. But the affordable Elites will certainly make a lot of budget conscious audio fans happy.)"



The whole post is here: http://www.soundandvision.com/content/dolby-atmos-moves
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Just pre-ordered a 5.1.4 setup (floor standers and bookshelf pair)..

Patiently waiting..
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Tom Norton of Sound & Vision attended an Atmos demo "at a Pioneer facility near Long Beach, CA," and had this to say:

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Later we had a chance to listen briefly to just the speakers themselves in two-channel stereo with no sub. I found the smaller stand-mounts more open-sounding, if less extended than the floor-standers. If I don’t wax eloquently about how they sounded, it’s only because I’ve been spoiled by hearing innumerable speakers designed with fewer (or no) price constraints, including TAD models running into six figures. (TAD is Pioneer’s high-end brand, and the new Pioneer Elite Atmos-enabled models sounded as good as they did largely because designer Andrew Jones also designed those TAD speakers. He knows what to listen for, even if at less than 5% of the price of the cheapest TADs he can’t quite equal them. But the affordable Elites will certainly make a lot of budget conscious audio fans happy.)"



The whole post is here: http://www.soundandvision.com/content/dolby-atmos-moves

This review of these speakers in a two-channels stereo setting interests me more than their Atmos abilities. From your relatively quick listening session, how do you think they will compare for MUSIC compared to other $1,400-$1,500 per pair speakers, towers and bookshelfs (including KEF LS-50's)?
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This review of these speakers in a two-channels stereo setting interests me more than their Atmos abilities. From your relatively quick listening session, how do you think they will compare for MUSIC compared to other $1,400-$1,500 per pair speakers, towers and bookshelfs (including KEF LS-50's)?
Um, I was just offering a link to Mr. Norton's post at S & V. You can ask him yourself in the comments section below the post; there are a couple of comments there, already.
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Um, I was just offering a link to Mr. Norton's post at S & V. You can ask him yourself in the comments section below the post; there are a couple of comments there, already.
Thanks - Sorry... I used the wrong link
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I'd be very interested in these speakers, less for their Atmos capabilities and more-so as an affordable premium series of speakers from Andrew Jones. I'll be keeping an eye on reviews regarding their normal 5.1 and 2.1 performance.

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Hi Everyone,

We are still here just finishing up some items so we can get these things in stores.
Just posting again hoping to get a release time frame..

Amazon just put them up for pre-order... est. shipping Oct. 25.

They also just changed the estimated ship date for the SC-85, 87 and 89... from Sept 15 to Oct 25..
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Just posting again hoping to get a release time frame..

Amazon just put them up for pre-order... est. shipping Oct. 25.

They also just changed the estimated ship date for the SC-85, 87 and 89... from Sept 15 to Oct 25..

Hey Film Mixer... All of the AV Receivers and Speakers are shipping this Friday.. .Not sure why Amazon says October... Atmos firmware will be a little later....

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Hey Film Mixer... All of the AV Receivers and Speakers are shipping this Friday.. .Not sure why Amazon says October... Atmos firmware will be a little later....

Chris Walker
Chris.. that is fantastic news.. congrats!!

Amazon has an interesting way of dealing with pre-orders on electronics...

However, that they both changed today gave me pause..

I'm really excited to hear these... and if they are shipping to distributors this week, I hope my drop shipped delivery is sooner rather than later..
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I'd be very interested in these speakers, less for their Atmos capabilities and more-so as an affordable premium series of speakers from Andrew Jones. I'll be keeping an eye on reviews regarding their normal 5.1 and 2.1 performance.
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Hey Film Mixer... All of the AV Receivers and Speakers are shipping this Friday.. .Not sure why Amazon says October... Atmos firmware will be a little later....

Chris Walker
Hi Chris - Great to hear!
Congratulations on the launch

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I could use the book shelf pair for fronts and rears correct?
So I could buy 2 pairs as a base for a 5.1.4 setup?
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^^

Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
Is the demo for Pioneer capable Atmos speakers and ceiling speakers in Long Beach close at hand?
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Maybe I missed it earlier in this thread but are there going to be any separate Atmos modules available or are the pioneer AJ speakers only going to be integrated Atmos enabled speakers?
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