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First Post: Need Advice on Speakers for TV and Music (EDM primarily) ~$1000 budget

Hey AVS,


First time posting here by recommendation from my original post over at Head-Fi. Forgive my ineptitude when it comes to the speakers realm as I am typically more of a headphone guy myself, but am looking for a setup to pair with my HDTV and play some music through, which will typically be EDM.


For the full original post and dimensions of the room the speakers will be in, please see the link below:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/725564/best...ecommendations


Basically, I have ~$1000 budget, have the below receiver and sub (the speakers themselves are blown) and am looking to figure out what setup would be best, and if it might be paired with anything I currently have.
http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-HT-S3500...keywords=onkyo


Seems like my sub is elementary and thus, floorstanding speakers might be a good option, but because I need not have the loudest speakers, perhaps a good pair of bookshelf speakers and a new sub might be the better way to go.


If you have any ideas or recommendations, I am open to all suggestions.


Thanks so much!!
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Look at the HSU Value 2 - 3.1 package
http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/value2pkg.html

That will give you a nice upgrade

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The big difference between floor-standing speakers and bookshelf speakers isn't loudness so much as it is bass extension. For that reason I would get a pair of bookshelf speakers and a sub. An Hsu package like mentioned above would be good, and if it were me, I would go for a 2.1 Hybrid 2 or Hybrid 3 package. Be aware that the sub in the Hybrid 3 package is pretty large, but very high performance and packs a lot of punch. Some other good options: A Reaction BPS 212 sub and pair of Infinity Primus P363 speakers. A Rythmik LV12/ Ascend CBM-170 package would also be pretty good as well.
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Hey AVS,


First time posting here by recommendation from my original post over at Head-Fi. Forgive my ineptitude when it comes to the speakers realm as I am typically more of a headphone guy myself, but am looking for a setup to pair with my HDTV and play some music through, which will typically be EDM.


For the full original post and dimensions of the room the speakers will be in, please see the link below:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/725564/best...ecommendations


Basically, I have ~$1000 budget, have the below receiver and sub (the speakers themselves are blown) and am looking to figure out what setup would be best, and if it might be paired with anything I currently have.
[URL]http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-HT-S3500-5-1-Channel-Theater-Receiver/dp/B0077V88V8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1404513269&sr=8-2&keywords=onkyo[/URL
Seems like my sub is elementary and thus, floorstanding speakers might be a good option, but because I need not have the loudest speakers, perhaps a good pair of bookshelf speakers and a new sub might be the better way to go.

If you have any ideas or recommendations, I am open to all suggestions.

Thanks so much!!

You really need to get a better receiver; the one you have is not good for much. Its specs are so overstated that they are a joke; no reality there.

I suggest the Denon AVR-E300, which is much much better and is only $249 from Amazon.

Then I would get a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 10.1 speakers, for $349/pair at Music Direct.

For a sub I would get the Polk PSW505 sub, which goes for around $250.

That will give you a pretty good system, given the budget.

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I would recommend the HSU or the Ascend speakers for 3.0. Then choose a sub.

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This NXG subwoofer is excellent for the price: http://www.amazon.com/NXG-Technology.../dp/B008FSTU4G

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You really need to get a better receiver; the one you have is not good for much. Its specs are so overstated that they are a joke; no reality there.

I suggest the Denon AVR-E300, which is much much better and is only $249 from Amazon.

Then I would get a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 10.1 speakers, for $349/pair at Music Direct.

For a sub I would get the Polk PSW505 sub, which goes for around $250.

That will give you a pretty good system, given the budget.


First off, thanks to everyone who has posted here so far, the suggestions are great and I appreciate all the help.


Given what has been said so far, I think I will opt for a pair of bookshelves and a new sub. Deciding between a 2.1 or 3.1 -- will there be an appreciable difference from getting the third, center speaker? If all it will add is loudness I think the 2.1 will be just fine. Don't need surround sound and I feel like if I get a 3.1 I might as well go for 5.1.


Finally, and this is in reference to the quoted reply, how much of a difference will upgrading the receiver make? For example, if I were to connect a good pair of bookshelves and sub into the receiver I have versus the Denon AVR-E300 (as suggested), what will the biggest sound change be? i.e. will watching TV/Movies sound better or just music? Or vice versa?
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The sub has its own amp, so it is least affected by a receiver upgrade.

You might notice a bit better sound--might not--from the better receiver *except* Audyssey MultEQ can help with improving the sound from the speakers and sub if your receiver doesn't have Audyssey.

However, assuming you can place it properly, a center channel can definitely help some with dialogue clarity with TV and movie watching if that's important to you.

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Get a 3.1 system if you want it for TV/HT. If only for music then definitely just get a 2.1 system.
Check out used local speakers on craigslist. I just got a 7.1 system part by part through craigslist and got incredibly better value than i could have buying new speakers even on closeout Fry's deals and such that you will hear recommended a lot (such as the infinity primus)

I went with a Polk system and love it. Check out Polk rti line. Maybe the rti6 could be perfect for you. Polk sells them direct on ebay for only $210ish i believe. Then buy 2 subs! something like a bic acoustech v1220, f12, h10, etc. or buy 1 higher quality SVS/Rythmik/HSU etc.
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Went with the NXG sub and Denon AVR-E300 (with airplay).

Still deciding between the HSU and Ascend 3.1 speakers. Biggest problem is both are too wide for my spot (or long, depending on what you consider long/wide). They are 23" and 21", respectively, whereas my cabinet is only 18.5". Would be nice to fit the center speaker into it but guess I can put it on top, right in front of the TV if necessary.

All the replies have been immensely helpful, will be a great set up for sure!!

EDIT: HSU bookshelves and center speakers ordered!

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Would be nice to fit the center speaker into it but guess I can put it on top, right in front of the TV if necessary.
The closer to the TV the better anyway.

Just make certain that the speaker is not recessed back in on the shelf, or you can get reflections that will hamper dialogue clarity.

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MartinLogan LX16 bookshelf speakers ... they are very nice speakers and are available on Amazon right now for:

NEW in dark cherry for $240 a single speaker

USED in drk cherry for $412 for a pair

New in piano black for $299 a single speaker

I have a pair as my surrounds, with another pair on their way to replace my DefTech SM45s in the exercise room.

The LX16s are the predecessor to MartinLogan's Motion15 bookshelf speakers, and are essentially the same.

My son has a pair of Motion 15s and an LX16 as a center channel.

For $720, the 3 LX16s in dark cherry would be a nice foundation for a 3.1 set up (or $652 for the used pair plus a new one )

The MartinLogan LX16 / Motion 15 bookshelf speakers not only sound great, but they are very nice in appearance as well.


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The Motion 15s sell new on Amazon for $400 (piano black) and $424 (dark cherry) per speaker

MartinLogan Motion 40s / 30 / LX16s
Marantz SR5007 / UD5007
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exercise room: MartinLogan LX16s / Dynamo700

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Went with the NXG sub and Denon AVR-E300 (with airplay).
EDIT: HSU bookshelves and center speakers ordered!
Enjoy the adventure

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Having some trouble getting the subwoofer to operate correctly. If anyone knows this sub / receiver and what might be happening any advice would be super helpful.

Bought an RCA cable and plugged it into the receiver in the "Subwoofer / Pre Out" slot. Plugged the single end into the subwoofer's "R or LFE" slot. Mode is set to "Auto" but when music is played the light stays in Standby mode, with the light indicator remaining red. It appears as though the cord might be broken since the indicator light never turns green unless the switch is deliberately put into the "On" position.

The receiver is on Aux, connected via HDMI cord and I have tried playing music on every setting, from PLII Music to All Channel Stereo, to everything in between.

My questions about what could be wrong are as follows:
Need the receiver be set to something in specific in order for it to register the subwoofer? Is the RCA cable broken? Or need I get a different RCA cord with an R and L slot to plug into the subwoofer or should it only have the one end plugged into the "R or LFE" slot? Finally, could the sub be defective?
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On some receivers, they will not send any LFE signal unless the speakers are set to small. Also make sure the receiver is set to use the subwoofer in the first place. You may also want to try something else that sends a line level signal and connect it to your sub in order to rule out the AVR, in case fiddling with AVR settings does not help. Like, use a mp3 player or something like that, connect it to the sub, and see it the sub makes any sound. Make sure the sub is set to 'on' for this. It probably will not be the cable at fault here.
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