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Bookshelves+amp/receiver+maybe a sub from Best Buy

I'm a Best Buy employee, and I am looking to replace my M-Audio BX8-D2. They're good but not my tastes. I want more bass, relaxed treble and a warmer mid range.

The current room is about 12x12x8 foot, but it's open on one and a half walls into a very large basement. In the future, I should have a room about 12x12x9. I'm using these 99% for music.

The Sony SSCS5 are quite a good deal with my discount, but I'm not sure they'll fulfill my tastes, especially the bass response. I could get a sub to help with these though. The Definitive Technology SM55 also show promise, but are a bit more expensive. The passive radiator is interesting and might allow for sufficient bass response, but I'd like some opinions about the mid range and treble. I'd also like something that isn't super directional.

I would also need an amp or a receiver to power the speakers. I can get the Yamaha R-S201BL for a pretty good price. It's 100W per channel peak at 8ohms, and could power either of the pairs I mentioned above. Any opinions?

Another option would be to get something like the Polk T15 and add a subwoofer to the mix. Anything that is carried on bestbuy.com (under the best buy items tab) is fair game. If I could stay under 500-600 for the current sell price that would be great. I'm not allowed to divulge the discount but any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
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For a tight (even Best Buy) budget, the Sony speakers are nice - do you also get a 15 day trial period.

I would look at the towers since you get a discount - that will help with your bass concerns

The Definitive are also nice speakers, and have nice bass - I would for sure skip the Polk T15

The Sony and Definitive sound good with music to me, and can throw a nice soundstage.

Speaker sound is subjective - no one can guarantee or speak for your ears.
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For a tight (even Best Buy) budget, the Sony speakers are nice - do you also get a 15 day trial period.

I would look at the towers since you get a discount - that will help with your bass concerns

The Definitive are also nice speakers, and have nice bass - I would for sure skip the Polk T15

The Sony and Definitive sound good with music to me, and can throw a nice soundstage.

Speaker sound is subjective - no one can guarantee or speak for your ears.
The problem with the Sony is that they are only rated down to 53Hz, so I would need a subwoofer. I really like the balance of the Polk, and with a sub they sound pretty good all around, just not quite as nice as I would want. I would like to avoid returning things as it doesn't look good if I'm abusing the return policy (I am an employee, after all). The issue I might have with the definitive is the balance. They seem to be "reference" and would probably be too similar to the m-audios I already have.

I can't go trying everything out, unfortunately. I know hearing is subjective, but some input will at least give me an idea of what they should sound like.

Thanks for the input!
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You can always buy a sub for the Sony bookshelf - they sound much more open with good detail and
definition, and are not harsh sounding to me - the Sony has good specs for a 5 inch wooffer. The Polk
sounds weak and life-less to me > lacking clarity, detail and definition and not much bass.

The Definitive sounds nice and cohesive to me - and like I said, they have good bass > their -3db point
is around 45 hz

With the M-Audio, a lot of the price went into the amps - The passive Definitive has a lot put into the drivers.

If you can not pick up a nice difference between the T15 with the Sony and Definitive, Then buy the T15.
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If you are getting bookshelf speakers I would suggest a subwoofer. After that buy what sounds good to you and is in your budget.

I am not a fan of the Polk T15's they are way too budget for my ears and I always felt the Polk Monitor 30's sounded much better.

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I can get the Polk TSX220B and PSW125 in cherry for less than half of their current sale price. I'll still need an amp or receiver but it's a good start. Anyone know of a decent review of the bookshelves? I cannot find one.
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I can get the Polk TSX220B and PSW125 in cherry for less than half of their current sale price. I'll still need an amp or receiver but it's a good start. Anyone know of a decent review of the bookshelves? I cannot find one.
What about your ears - do you ever listen to the speakers yourself - since you work there.

If that Polk subwoofer was offered to me for $50 - I would still reject it.

Your option/choice and call

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What about your ears - do you ever listen to the speakers yourself - since you work there.

If that Polk subwoofer was offered to me for $50 - I would still reject it.

Your option/choice and call
I'm unable to audition them as they are only carried at a few stores. That's a shame about the sub. Any other suggestions from the best buy site? Under best buy items, not the marketplace.
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I'm unable to audition them as they are only carried at a few stores. That's a shame about the sub. Any other suggestions from the best buy site? Under best buy items, not the marketplace.
For me, if I had to buy from Best Buy with a tight budget and discount - it would be
the Martin Logan Dynamo 500, or Definitive Pro 1000 subwoofer

However, do what you feel is best for you.

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For me, if I had to buy from Best Buy with a tight budget and discount - it would be
the Martin Logan Dynamo 500, or Definitive Pro 1000 subwoofer

However, do what you feel is best for you.
Both of those are nearly twice as much. I might just get an amp and the bookshelves and then grab a better sub like the svs sb1000 later.

Any amp/receiver suggestions?

EDIT:any opinions on the BIC V80/V1020/V1220?

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Both of those are nearly twice as much. I might just get an amp and the bookshelves and then grab a better sub like the svs sb1000 later.

Any amp/receiver suggestions?

EDIT:any opinions on the BIC V80/V1020/V1220?
For receiver Look at the Denon - they are OK
Or, the Sony 8XX up - they are doing a decent job now.

I do not tend to recommend subs under $300 except the NXG BAS-500

If you want a cheap sub to hold you over - a lot of people seem to like this
Dayton subwoofer - it should be better than some older RadisShack subs
http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-...oofer--300-629

I am not one for recommending Bic subs

For me, I would get the Definitive SM-55 speakers and a receiver - and then
save up for a good subwoofer. The Definitive SM-55 has some nice bass.

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For receiver Look at the Denon - they are OK
Or, the Sony 8XX up - they are doing a decent job now.

I do not tend to recommend subs under $300 except the NXG BAS-500

If you want a cheap sub to hold you over - a lot of people seem to like this
Dayton subwoofer - it should be better than some older RadisShack subs
http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-...oofer--300-629

I am not one for recommending Bic subs

For me, I would get the Definitive SM-55 speakers and a receiver - and then
save up for a good subwoofer. The Definitive SM-55 has some nice bass.
Thanks for the suggestions. I think I'm going to get the Polk TSX220B in cherry, and the Yamaha R-S201B, and then get a sub later on.
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I think I'm going to get the Polk TSX220B in cherry, and the Yamaha R-S201B, and then get a sub later on.
Enjoy the adventure - have a happy Best Buy time.

Edit: I would think about getting a receiver with a subwoofer pre-out.
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Enjoy the adventure - have a happy Best Buy time.

Edit: I would think about getting a receiver with a subwoofer pre-out.
I'll consider it but if I get a nice sub I'll get one with speaker level input and output.
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I'm getting a Denon AVR-S500BT btw. A proper receiver should give me a lot more flexibility.
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I'm getting a Denon AVR-S500BT btw. A proper receiver should give me a lot more flexibility.
Yeah and it will give you room to grow and build a 5.1/5.2 surround sound setup of you choose.

Nice buy. Those Polk's are decent speakers too
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Both of those are nearly twice as much. I might just get an amp and the bookshelves and then grab a better sub like the svs sb1000 later.

Any amp/receiver suggestions?

EDIT:any opinions on the BIC V80/V1020/V1220?
Smart decision in waiting on the sub until you can get the SB- or PB-1000 (depending upon use and room volume). Another choice in that $500 price point would be Reaction Audio's BPS-212 (dual-opposing 12-inch drivers). In either case, both SVS and RA are a solid step up.

As far as BIC, they make pretty decent subs for a budget price, and their PL-200 is one of their most popular and best regarded subs (with the best warranty). I owned the BIC V1020 (gave it to the ex) and still own the BIC V1220 (gift from my son years ago). Surprising little subs for the price, but the V1220 is now pulling duty in my computer room.
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Yeah and it will give you room to grow and build a 5.1/5.2 surround sound setup of you choose.

Nice buy. Those Polk's are decent speakers too
Yep. That will be good setup. And definitely the AVR is the best way to begin when starting out. In 2 or 3 years time, you'd be asking yourself why you didn't get an AVR so you could have a surround system.

Also, those Polks would make great surrounds if you decide in a couple years that you want to upgrade your front speakers for music.

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I'd recommend the Pioneer BS-22, I have two pair myself in my computer and bedroom setups (although I even used them as mains in my primary setup for a bit because they are quite good), and two subs.
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I found that I could get the dsw 440wi for 155, so I'll be getting that. It isn't great at its original price but at $155, i don't think it can be beat. I've got a small room and want accuracy over power/punchiness.
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Seems like a decent price.

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