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$1000 for Front Sound Stage - is reference possible?

I'm only familiar with the Energy Veritas sound, other than that its my "mid fi" Hifiman HE400 Planar headsets.

Space is a basement, specifically one wing of it - about 12x11x8 feet in dimension where one side opens up to the rest of this T-shaped basement. http://imgur.com/qIsjapY

I already have an SVS PB-1000 for a sub and 2 Energy mini veritas as the side surrounds. What would be the best option for a movie like sound. I'm thinking that adding a 2nd PB-1000 is a possibility.

JBL, Def Tech, HTD, hit me with what you like for $800-1000USD Id rather stay to the $800-900USD range since im in Canada - but i can definately order from Amazon.com and drive a couple hours to the border for pickup.

"Reference" might not be possible, as my receiver can only output up to 50w through 7 channels (8ohm 0.07% THD) - so i guess high efficiency speakers would be nice.

I have time, maybe a few months at least - i wonder if Atmos is best in this situation.

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Buying used is definitely an option as well. My 5 speaker energy vminis and pb1000 were all used and function great.
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Sounds to me like you are looking for high senstivity, high SPL speakers. Lots of threads on it. If you are not afraid to assemble some kits and paint them this can easily be done for under $1K.

http://www.diysoundgroup.com/wavegui...-pure-kit.html

You can buy the assmebled crossovers for a little over $20 apiece. Some Duratex, a couple foam rollers, and you would have high SPL speakers for under $800 to your door.
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Oh cool - 10" woofer? Thats immense - would that out perform something like Klipsch RF-82? I actually do have a bit of experience with mdf/painting to a glossy finish (pain in the ass) when i made my Vewlix Arcade Clone last year

Its not a pretty speaker, I do like the look of the Veritas/RF (cooper) line. Lets see what the gf thinks heh

Yes i guess High SPL speakers would be best, but i would like to have a cinema like sound if possible

Thanks again!
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I'm only familiar with the Energy Veritas sound, other than that its my "mid fi" Hifiman HE400 Planar headsets.

Outstanding choice of headphones, if I do say so myself.
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Oh cool - 10" woofer? Thats immense - would that out perform something like Klipsch RF-82? I actually do have a bit of experience with mdf/painting to a glossy finish (pain in the ass) when i made my Vewlix Arcade Clone last year

Its not a pretty speaker, I do like the look of the Veritas/RF (cooper) line. Lets see what the gf thinks heh

Yes i guess High SPL speakers would be best, but i would like to have a cinema like sound if possible

Thanks again!

The waveguide speakers I linked to, IMHO, are a nice jump over the Klipsch RF82. There are lots of guys that have really nice home theaters using those waveguide kits who come from expensive speakers and love them. They are perfect for home theater/cinema sound. I wish I would have gone this route, but they were not available when I built my home theater. I did sell my expensive Hsu sub and built 4 DIY subs for the same price and it was a noticeable improvement.
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Most of the SEOS waveguide options on diysoundgroup will easily get you to reference, and they all sound great.


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If i did not want to go the DIY route - what other options do i have at the $800-$1000USD range for the front sound stage?
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If i did not want to go the DIY route - what other options do i have at the $800-$1000USD range for the front sound stage?

The top of this page shows the best sub US$1000 front end that I'm aware of: http://www.ascendacoustics.com
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If i did not want to go the DIY route - what other options do i have at the $800-$1000USD range for the front sound stage?
If you can up your budget a little, these should get you close to you goal

http://www.chanemusiccinema.com/chan...rs/Theater-Ten

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The top of this page shows the best sub US$1000 front end that I'm aware of: http://www.ascendacoustics.com
He has a 50w receiver and wants high clean high SPL to hit reference. I don't think this combo will get it done. Don't get me wrong, I like Ascend, but the Chane option is probably a better one if he wants a finished product.

Klipsch is another option.
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Outstanding choice of headphones, if I do say so myself.
Thanks theyre pretty fantastic - tight punchy bass while keeping the mids and highs clear. Some sibilance though - but eq fixes it. I did a grill mod and waiting on the 560 pads to come in to replace my velour. Got them used for $250CAD last year, its what started the audiophile journey
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He has a 50w receiver and wants high clean high SPL to hit reference. I don't think this combo will get it done. Don't get me wrong, I like Ascend, but the Chane option is probably a better one if he wants a finished product.

Klipsch is another option.
Yea its currently what i have - but i have no problems replacing it shortly after. I keep scouring the classified for good deals on amps, since the receiver has pre-outs which is nice. Might not be able to hit reference cleanly with this AVR but i think itll get to a decent level in the basement.

Right now i think the upgrade path will be
1. veritas mini front sound stage (current)
2. $1000 for Left/Right/Center - more body, more cinema like
3. 2nd PB-1000 or possibly DIY 15"+ sub
4. Amp or new AVR (atmos perhaps)

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Those Ascend 340s are pretty sensitive. I don't see a problem.

http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages...340mspecs.html
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Look at JBL for non-DIY


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