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post #1 of 15 Old 07-18-2014, 11:14 PM - Thread Starter
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Front Bookshelf questions; Aperion DefTec, EMP Tek

I've been racking my brain over which front speakers to get. I'm looking for a neutral sounding speaker that will be used 90%+ for HT in a room that is 9'9" x 19' (theater area) but it's a fat L shaped room that's 13'7" in the back half. I'm looking to get a Denon X2000 receiver and have narrowed it down to a PA 150 sub.

I though I had settled on the Aperion versus grand bookshelf and center a while back, but the more I read the more I'm unsure. First it seems like you get a better sound using a bookshelf for a center instead of a "center" speaker which is also less expensive. Also the DefTec SM 55 are a little less expensive with glowing reviews, and the EMP Tek E5Bi are the least expensive and have pretty good reviews, and I'm wondering if the versus grand's justify the price?

I realize all three speaker groups are top bang for your buck speakers, but I'd rather buy once/cry once than play the upgrade game forever.

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I'm all for matching up front, so of you don't mind the look of an upright center then yes, 3 of the same would be best.

Since its no secret I'm a DefTech guy I'll lean that way, but I do have one question, on a shelf/cabinet or bookshelves for size but on stands?

The reason I ask is I'm also of the opinion, as far as the front 3 go, go as low as you can for range to get the fullest sound possible, and since you mentioned the SM-55's you can get re-furbed SM-65's for about the same or sometimes less than new 55's, but the 65's absolutely need open space over the top of them because of the base radiator.

Anyway...my thoughts.
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I dont know about the Def-Techs but the Verus grands are a very highly regarded speaker. I was in a similar position as you not too long ago. I ended up auditioning a bunch of bookshelf speakers. Aperion pays the shipping both ways and I think EMP might do the same if I recall correctly. Trust me, as someone who has gone through this before, narrow it down to a few and try them out. You will feel much more secure in your buying decision knowing it was an informed one. Unluckily I didnt get to hear the Verus Grands or the E5Bi's, even though they were on my long list of speakers to audition for my shootout.

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Those are excellent speakers. I had them on my list, and I ended up buying the Arx speaker. I listen to music more than I watch movies, and I wanted speakers that were warm and neutral. I never auditioned the Arx, but Jon Lane from ATI now Chane Speakers gave me a lot of information about them. I am super happy with them.

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ALtlOff, These will be on stands in front of the screen wall.

EMP Tek changed their return policy and now the customer has to foot the bill for return shipping.

I had heard of ARX speakers but it looks like www.theaudioinsider.com went bust and I can't find another US seller for them.

Thanks for the feedback, keep it coming.
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ALtlOff, These will be on stands in front of the screen wall.

EMP Tek changed their return policy and now the customer has to foot the bill for return shipping.

I had heard of ARX speakers but it looks like www.theaudioinsider.com went bust and I can't find another US seller for them.

Thanks for the feedback, keep it coming.
Arx has gone from TAI to Chane.

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The reason I ask is I'm also of the opinion, as far as the front 3 go, go as low as you can for range to get the fullest sound possible, and since you mentioned the SM-55's you can get re-furbed SM-65's for about the same or sometimes less than new 55's, but the 65's absolutely need open space over the top of them because of the base radiator.
Thanks for the heads up about refurbished Def Techs, I didn't realize they were almost half off with free shipping. Just took a little searching since they don't sell them on their site. It puts the SM 55s and SM 65s in a whole new pricepoint.
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Yup, bajawaverunner's stuff on E-Bay has a pretty good reputation for being like new, they don't have everything, all the time, but with some do diligence and patience, you can do pretty good.
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Arx has gone from TAI to Chane.

http://www.chanemusiccinema.com/A3rx-c
TAI and Chane merged together. They both make some of the best speakers and subwoofer.

They offer a 30 day trial as well. I will be buying more speakers from them to complete my 7.2 set up.

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Aperion pays the shipping both ways and I think EMP might do the same if I recall correctly.
EMP Tek has stopped offering return shipping.

I recommend the Ascend Acoustics CBM-170 SEs over the Chane and EMP Tek bookshelves.

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EMP Tek has stopped offering return shipping.

I recommend the Ascend Acoustics CBM-170 SEs over the Chane and EMP Tek bookshelves.
It's up to personal preference and the application. I might choose the A1bs over the 170s for movies because they are not as bright and have better bass. However the 170s might do better with music, I found them to have greater resolution.
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It's up to personal preference and the application. I might choose the A1bs over the 170s for movies because they are not as bright and have better bass. However the 170s might do better with music, I found them to have greater resolution.
Doesn't matter the "personal preference and the application." I can't recommend the company.

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No feedback from the Aperion and EMP Tek owners?
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No feedback from the Aperion and EMP Tek owners?
I don't have the Verus line but I own the Intimus 6Ts. I've been told by Aperion that the Verus line sounds smoother than the Intimus. I can honestly say that I abused my 6Ts over the years, playing a them really really really loudly for hours on end in order to get some sound outside the house for party's and stuff. They are still going strong. A lesser speaker may have fried. Their customer service is amazing also, they aren't afraid of talking about other brands. They even recommended one of their competitors speakers to me as they thought I might like their stuff aswell. They don't mind taking half an hour out of their day to chat about speakers.
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No feedback from the Aperion and EMP Tek owners?
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