Originally Posted by tuxedocivic
Ok, perhaps you can clarify what you meant by these comments?
Who has a vested interest that tilted any "results" in their favour? Certainly not Mr. Funk. He didn't offer his opinion on any of the speakers. Could you possibly be referring to me???
You like to create straw men I see. Again, I stress that you read what I wrote, not what you hear in your head. Please show me where I actually said what you state: such as "tilted" or in their favour? Please read the words I've written.
The mind is an interesting thing and it believes what it wants to believe. It requires a lot more work but to be very straight speaking, a non blind test especially one with someone involved that has a vested interest is not reliable. I'm not saying that it was rigged or that people are not being honest about what they feel they heard or what their preference was. Statistically, the testing was very flawed.
You apparently heard something different in your head because it does not match what I am writing. Read again where I state how a person can be biased.
I also stated:
My point again is that the testing method was flawed. Again, I state, I don't think anyone did anything consciously, but there is a built in bias in terms of how it was undertaken. There is a bias towards JTR, there is a bias toward a speaker designed by a good designer who is there and able to talk very knowledgeably about speakers / design to people who are there. It biases the listener.
Take note: You are a good designer and able to talk very knowledgeably about the speakers and designs. It bias' people in the room toward your design. Without regard to how good your design truly is, and I don't doubt it is really good, but it bias' them.
Originally Posted by tuxedocivic
Where did we say the point of the GTG was to get people to buy 1099s? Where do you draw that conclusion from? For months now a few of the guys have wanted to hear them. So, this was the opportunity. That's the only reason they were there, because they were requested. Many times it almost didn't work out and my big TMM was the only speaker I was going to bring. It worked out and we had both there.
We've always maintained that this was about having fun and getting to hear some different speakers. There's another thread called Vancouver Summertime GTG where I even said (paraphrasing) "screw eq and measurements, lets just have a good time and set them up and go. Maybe level match them but otherwise just play them". Hardly trying to be scientific. Hardly any different than most GTGs. Just having a good time. And I repeat, you're welcome to ignore peoples comments.
I have recommended your 1099's to people, so I'm not anti any of your speakers or your designs. My point has been that the review was flawed and if someone bases their decision on X being clearly a step above Y based on comments from a flawed analysis they should understand it was flawed. I am not critisizing you for wanting your design to be popular or to sell. My opinion is that it was part of your point in doing this. Perhaps you had no intention of this improving the stature of your speaker or the desire of others to want to buy it. Perhaps I'm wrong and you didn't care if another one sold.
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