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Speakers for House Parties -- Need BASS

What's up guys.

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So I'm trying to find the optimal setup for some small parties I should be having throughout the year. The room is about 20' x 20' so it hasn't been easy to fill the place up with sound considering the crappy soundbar I've been using. I'm looking to get a system with heavy bass since I'll mostly be playing rap and edm at the parties, but I can't spend more than 400 dollars unfortunately so therein lies the challenge for what I want.

I have this setup in my room and I like it for the money input:

Speakers: http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS2...oneer+speakers

Amp: http://www.amazon.com/LP-2020A-Lepai...rds=stereo+amp

Sub: http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-S...s=dayton+audio


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So I figured what I might be able to do with the budget is buy 2 more of the subs from above, an entry level receiver, and use the andrew jones speakers from my room.

I'm completely open to new ideas or if you think my idea should work, let me know which receivers I could look into and/or potentially better subs. As a note, I can't move my sub to the living room because I still want one in my room, but the speakers are fair game (I have others).
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idk exactly what your looking to do or how loud you like your music but i would scratch all that and i would do something like this


speakers 2 of these 130each
http://www.parts-express.com/mtx-tp1...eaker--245-802

amp
http://www.parts-express.com/behring...-300w--248-749

use this cable plug into iphone and play music
http://www.parts-express.com/35mm-sl...-5-ft--240-065

also prob can get away with one speaker if you want and if thats the case go with something like this
http://www.parts-express.com/peavey-...aker--248-8380 and just plug your iphone into it
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idk exactly what your looking to do or how loud you like your music but i would scratch all that and i would do something like this


speakers 2 of these 130each
http://www.parts-express.com/mtx-tp1...eaker--245-802

amp
http://www.parts-express.com/behring...-300w--248-749

use this cable plug into iphone and play music
http://www.parts-express.com/35mm-sl...-5-ft--240-065

also prob can get away with one speaker if you want and if thats the case go with something like this
http://www.parts-express.com/peavey-...aker--248-8380 and just plug your iphone into it
Do you think the bass will be enough? I've heard a behringer 215 and the bass wasn't great. Will 2 of these make a difference or is my budget just too low to reproduce good bass?
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Get some used Cerwin Vega's off of craigslist. I've owned several, and while they were nowhere near refined enough for me and they are long gone, they do get loud and have strong upper bass.

Some DCM KX series would work too, and I see those all of the time on my local CL.
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Get some used Cerwin Vega's off of craigslist. I've owned several, and while they were nowhere near refined enough for me and they are long gone, they do get loud and have strong upper bass.

Some DCM KX series would work too, and I see those all of the time on my local CL.
Would this be a good choice?

http://www.amazon.com/Cerwin-Vega-XL...+vega+speakers

Recommend any inexpensive/decent receivers or amps?
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It all depends on the size of the room. The bigger the room is, the bigger the subs you want. If I'm thinking back to my days of, oh wait, I like mad bass NOW haha. I'd just go with 12 inch subs and up. They just move more air and have lower bass for EDM, hip hop etc. Def check used, but a lot of guys overprice their bagged out crap so be careful. I'd just buy 1 more of those dayton subs, and move the one you have back and forth. Invest the cash into a more powerful amp and better speakers (maybe 4 bookshelf). You'll have 2 12's with good sounding speakers that get loud and you're set.
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Do you think the bass will be enough? I've heard a behringer 215 and the bass wasn't great. Will 2 of these make a difference or is my budget just too low to reproduce good bass?
I haven't had a listen to the 215s but i used to have the mtx speakers and for the price there great. If your looking for serious bass then i think you need to up your budget. Are you looking for club like bass? Or just some bass and your not really a bass head? If i was you i would up you price range save up a lil more. Explain what sonic performance you after? High volumes, clarity, crazy bass, ect?
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I would do 2 bookshelf speakers like this https://www.parts-express.com/bic-fo...watts--303-434

And then go with 2 dayton 12in subs like you have for now. If you have a receiver use that save money
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I can't spend more than 400.
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What's up guys.

Details:
So I'm trying to find the optimal setup for some small parties I should be having throughout the year. The room is about 20' x 20' so it hasn't been easy to fill the place up with sound considering the crappy soundbar I've been using. I'm looking to get a system with heavy bass since I'll mostly be playing rap and edm at the parties, but I can't spend more than 400 dollars unfortunately so therein lies the challenge for what I want.

I have this setup in my room and I like it for the money input:

Speakers: http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS2...oneer+speakers

Amp: http://www.amazon.com/LP-2020A-Lepai...rds=stereo+amp

Sub: http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-S...s=dayton+audio


Ideas:
So I figured what I might be able to do with the budget is buy 2 more of the subs from above, an entry level receiver, and use the andrew jones speakers from my room.

I'm completely open to new ideas or if you think my idea should work, let me know which receivers I could look into and/or potentially better subs. As a note, I can't move my sub to the living room because I still want one in my room, but the speakers are fair game (I have others).

You need a pair of speakers with 15 inch drivers and a 100-watt per channel amplifier. JBL are the best

With your budget, that will take some serious shopping for used gear; lots of luck.
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I can't spend more than 400.
Ok well you need a stereo receiver. That T-amp will not have anywhere near the power needed.

Where are you located state and closest major city? (So I can see your craigslist options.)

I would suggest a Stereo receiver/amp which will run you around $100 (Sherwood RX-4105). Thats $100 left for speakers.
So maybe a Bic F12 and then $100-$120 bookshelf pair. Coming to mind right now are just Polk Monitor 30's or another pair of Pioneer SP-BS22. You could get another Dayton Sub-1200 to allow you to get larger bookshelfs like Monitor 40's

My fraternity has a pair of Sony SS-B3000's in our 20x20 palor for parties and they got very loud and had decent sound. We didn't use them with a subwoofer.

You could go with one of these PA package deals but for $400 you aren't going to get any name brand stuff.

If you have no problem using your Pioneer's during parties and moving them. Then just two Sub-1200 and a $100 Sherwood is all you need. Pretty much each Pioneer would have its own Sub-1200

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The Pioneers are great sounding speakers but they are just too small to be able to fill a large space to a big volume and it sounds like there is issue with overall volume and not just with bass. The pro style speakers some are suggesting aren't a bad idea to fill the space. You can supplement bass with additional Sub-1200 or adding a sub-1500. Old amps and receivers are usually pretty easy and cheap to find on Cragislist.
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Ok well you need a stereo receiver. That T-amp will not have anywhere near the power needed.

Where are you located state and closest major city? (So I can see your craigslist options.)

I would suggest a Stereo receiver/amp which will run you around $100 (Sherwood RX-4105). Thats $100 left for speakers.
So maybe a Bic F12 and then $100-$120 bookshelf pair. Coming to mind right now are just Polk Monitor 30's or another pair of Pioneer SP-BS22. You could get another Dayton Sub-1200 to allow you to get larger bookshelfs like Monitor 40's

My fraternity has a pair of Sony SS-B3000's in our 20x20 palor for parties and they got very loud and had decent sound. We didn't use them with a subwoofer.

You could go with one of these PA package deals but for $400 you aren't going to get any name brand stuff.

If you have no problem using your Pioneer's during parties and moving them. Then just two Sub-1200 and a $100 Sherwood is all you need. Pretty much each Pioneer would have its own Sub-1200
Yeah that last idea is what I have been leaning towards but I just wanted to make sure there weren't any other options to up the bass quantity.

What about this:

I pick up that receiver you recommended, the b3000's (150 for a pair), and 1 more dayton 1200 and I'm thinking it should sound pretty good...comes out to about 400 even.

Also, I live in Philly fyi
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Yeah that last idea is what I have been leaning towards but I just wanted to make sure there weren't any other options to up the bass quantity.

What about this:

I pick up that receiver you recommended, the b3000's (150 for a pair), and 1 more dayton 1200 and I'm thinking it should sound pretty good...comes out to about 400 even.

Also, I live in Philly fyi
I would start with a Dayton Sub-1200 and the Sherwood stereo amp as they will be the less money up front and you are pretty much going that way no matter what.
If the Pioneer's each with their own Sub-1200 is not enough then look at other speakers.

Here are some craigslist options worth considereing
-Restored Cerwin Vega AT-10's http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/ele/4502994351.html
-Polk Monitor 70's Floorstanders http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/ele/4577604557.html (for $300 these are a great deal if they are in working condition. I like this option. An addittional subwoofer should not be necessary)
-Klipsch Synergy B2 Bookshelf Speakers http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/ele/4577323634.html
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These are a good alternative to the Cerwin Vegas, they will play loud and have good bass: http://www.parts-express.com/bic-rtr...eaker--303-422

Use that Sherwood receiver, it is a great bang for your buck option and give you plenty of headroom: http://www.parts-express.com/sherwoo...eiver--252-125

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These are a good alternative to the Cerwin Vegas, they will play loud and have good bass: http://www.parts-express.com/bic-rtr...eaker--303-422

Use that Sherwood receiver, it is a great bang for your buck option and give you plenty of headroom: http://www.parts-express.com/sherwoo...eiver--252-125
Another great possibility.

OP- Are we talking college house parties or wine & cheese parties.
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Another great possibility.

OP- Are we talking college house parties or wine & cheese parties.
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I'm looking to get a system with heavy bass since I'll mostly be playing rap and edm at the parties,
A wine and cheese party playing rap and electronic dance music....am I behind the times???
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Another great possibility.

OP- Are we talking college house parties or wine & cheese parties.
Trying to throw ragers basically
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Those Bic RTR's or MTX Thunders will get the job done better than pioneer SP-BS22's.

Just use the Sherwood stereo amp and you will be golden
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