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Which cables are best for my Jamo speakers?

I need advice on the issue described above. My receiver is a Denon 4810 and my speakers are the Jamo D7 Series.
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Any copper wire from your local hardware store. 12 or 14 ga is sufficient for most any application.
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Any copper wire from your local hardware store. 12 or 14 ga is sufficient for most any application.
On D7's??
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On D7's??
On any speaker.
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On any speaker.

Even ones costing S9K and above?
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On D7's??
What makes them different than any other speaker?
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What makes them different than any other speaker?

THX Ultra 2 ??
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Even ones costing S9K and above?
As long as you have sufficient gauge for your distance then any speaker wire (from simple stuff from Monoprice or Blue Jeans or hardware store to the most expensive) will transport the signal from your amp to the speakers with equal efficiency and in a blind test you would never be able to pick any difference.

If you like pretty cable, then either buy expensive ones or buy inexpensive ones and put on your own cable jackets.
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THX Ultra 2 ??
Still uncertain how wire matters since it has no effect on THX or speaker cost.

I use it on more expensive speakers than the Jamo.
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THX Ultra 2 ??
All speakers require the signal in their frequency range to be transported on the cable unadulterated (i.e. no cable should add or subtract anything).

All copper cables of sufficient gauge will do this.
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They are rated at 4-ohms nominal, so go a bit larger diameter (i.e. 12 AWG instead of 14 AWG).

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You literally don't need anything better than this: http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...uctId=16484196

But you can probably get by just fine with 16 or 18 gauge. 12 gauge looks nicer, though.
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I use these, they look pretty cool and they are affordable. I don't really feel I need 12 gauge wire, but that's how they come.

http://sewelldirect.com/Silverback-S...Terminated.asp

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Even ones costing S9K and above?
Electrons don't know how much your speaker cost, nor do they care. Read this:
http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/10-01-06/#feature
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I use these, they look pretty cool and they are affordable. I don't really feel I need 12 gauge wire, but that's how they come.

http://sewelldirect.com/Silverback-S...Terminated.asp

Those look nice, and very reasonable. If my runs weren't odd lengths, I'd consider swapping out for a set.

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Any copper wire from your local hardware store. 12 or 14 ga is sufficient for most any application.
Cu2O is a perfect insulator so the older the cable the better the transmission esp the more"oxygen free" the copper.

Ag2O and Au2O are great conductors.

Soo based on above, you will need crimp fresh the terminations and attach with high silver content solder to a gold plated spade>banana-plug>pin in descending order of quality of connection.

You will need to get extra spades because you will ruin a few in the learning process by melting off the gold if temp is too high.

Materials: Belden 10AWG cable, electrical tape (to cover solder points), gold plated spades, crimp tool, butane torch or an electronic air rework tool, and a DaVinci robot, just kidding, one like this:
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Cu2O is a perfect insulator so the older the cable the better the transmission esp the more"oxygen free" the copper.

Ag2O and Au2O are great conductors.

Soo based on above, you will need crimp fresh the terminations and attach with high silver content solder to a gold plated spade>banana-plug>pin in descending order of quality of connection.

You will need to get extra spades because you will ruin a few in the learning process by melting off the gold if temp is too high.

Materials: Belden 10AWG cable, electrical tape (to cover solder points), gold plated spades, crimp tool, butane torch or an electronic air rework tool, and a DaVinci robot, just kidding, one like this:

I am confident you method will work as good as simply using bare wire or any one of several spades and banana plugs that require no solder.
One question. Why do it the hard way when it will not improve the sound quality?
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This should be all you need if you want 12ga wire.
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_i...seq=1&format=2

They also come in other lengths if you need more wire.
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I am confident you method will work as good as simply using bare wire or any one of several spades and banana plugs that require no solder.
One question. Why do it the hard way when it will not improve the sound quality?
Simply because oxidation will also occur at the very end of the copper wire where it meet your solderless shiny connectors, and SQ will drop in time.

A compromise I guess, one that will work very well is to just melt the high silver solder into the crimped endings then mechanically attach it to the solderless connectors.

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I am confident you method will work as good as simply using bare wire or any one of several spades and banana plugs that require no solder.
One question. Why do it the hard way when it will not improve the sound quality?
Simply because oxidation will also occur at the very end of the copper wire where it meets the connectors, and SQ will drop in time.

A compromise I guess, one that will work very well, is to just melt the high silver solder into the crimped endings then mechanically cold attach it to the solderless connectors.

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I use Monster THX Surround Cable for all speakers. Any good?
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I use Monster THX Surround Cable for all speakers. Any good?
I think that the answer you will get from most people on AVS is that while there is nothing inherently wrong with the ability of Monster cables to transport signals, the cables themselves are vastly overpriced. You can get cables that perform just as well, but for a fraction of the price, from either Monoprice or Blue Jeans Cables.I've bought all sorts of cables from both vendors and they have been great for me.
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Why would you recommend a non THX cable
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Why would you recommend a non THX cable
I too wonder why.
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I too wonder why.
One can't know if you're serious or not, but in any event there is no such thing as a THX cable, at least not from a technical standpoint. From an advertising standpoint perhaps, but if the advertising even mentions THX then you can very safely assume that the product is snake oil. That title applies to anything and everything made by Monster, and Kimber as well.
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I too wonder why.
That was sarcasm

This is a long debated topic; but it comes down to this: Transporting a signal from the amplifier to the speakers is an objective goal, for which solid copper wiring is sufficient. It is easy to get caught up in all the pseudo-science of expensive cables, but you need to remember that the basic Radioshack cable does just as good a job as the thousand-dollar Audioquest cable.

The Radioshack cable seems to be a very good option, or if you want to get some pre-terminated cables, check out Blue Jeans Cable. I use Monoprice cable and it has been great for me.

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Lol bought a 20A cable for £5

http://www.russandrews.com/product.a...HVHHIKGCHVYUSU

That costs more (in 2M config) than a 7 channel, ATI, 2003, 7 x 200W power amplifier. hahaha.

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That was sarcasm

This is a long debated topic; but it comes down to this: Transporting a signal from the amplifier to the speakers is an objective goal, for which solid copper wiring is sufficient. It is easy to get caught up in all the pseudo-science of expensive cables, but you need to remember that the basic Radioshack cable does just as good a job as the thousand-dollar Audioquest cable.

The Radioshack cable seems to be a very good option, or if you want to get some pre-terminated cables, check out Blue Jeans Cable. I use Monoprice cable and it has been great for me.
I can easily hear the difference between an AudioQuest and a came in the box run off the mill PS3 cable.. or a Monster XPHP and a Monster THX Surround cable.
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