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Best Audio CD Burning Software??? Windows Media Player compresses files ! A No No

It seems to me like the Windows Media Player is actually compressing file size?? can that be? for Audio CDs.

I had 6 WAV songs I added to Audio CD. Total size was 700mb while my CD-r is exactly 750mb. Somehow software says only 50% is full and it goes by total song length.

I still kept it at 6 songs and burned the CD. After burn, looking at the CD write side it clearly shows that it used up 50% of available surface. So what is happening??? is it compressing my WAV files to smaller MB ?

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P.S. Is there a better software to use for CD burning??

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What does this have to do with speakers??
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What does this have to do with speakers??
Sorry couldn't find the appropriate forum but hoped many here would know.

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What's the best CD ripping software?
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It seems to me like the Windows Media Player is actually compressing file size?? can that be? for Audio CDs.

I had 6 WAV songs I added to Audio CD. Total size was 700mb while my CD-r is exactly 750mb. Somehow software says only 50% is full and it goes by total song length.

I still kept it at 6 songs and burned the CD. After burn, looking at the CD write side it clearly shows that it used up 50% of available surface. So what is happening??? is it compressing my WAV files to smaller MB ?

thank you.

P.S. Is there a better software to use for CD burning??
CD length should be about 80+ minutes of music so if the 6 songs were 40 minutes long, that's just about right.
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IMGBurn is free and perfect. I use that.
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CD length should be about 80+ minutes of music so if the 6 songs were 40 minutes long, that's just about right.
That I understand but I thought that a CD-R 700mb limit was either 700mb of space or 80 min .... one or the other. First one that reaches limit is the control. In this situation I know that file size if beyond 700mb as music files are very big and yet it tells me that I am only half way through the max space on CD>

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In Windows Media Player you have several options in which to save a music file. When ripping a CD if you use WAV Lossless the file will not be compressed. There is a WMA Lossless and a WAV Lossless. The other options are compressed.

As long as the WAV file was lossless it should burn the same way.
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In Windows Media Player you have several options in which to save a music file. When ripping a CD if you use WAV Lossless the file will not be compressed. There is a WMA Lossless and a WAV Lossless. The other options are compressed.

As long as the WAV file was lossless it should burn the same way.
I'd actually be burning on to a CD instead of ripping one.

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Yes, but how did you get the WAV files in the first place? Did you rip them from a CD?

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so when I burn a WAV file that is 200mb and recording is in 5130kbps 192 quality .... what I hear out of my SACD/CD player is no where close to that file capability ??? It gets "downsampled" to standard CD music file that maybe 1411kbps or something like that?

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Yes, but how did you get the WAV files in the first place? Did you rip them from a CD?
nope ... downloaded from site that has these high end music recording probably ripped from SACDs or some other top quality source.

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nope ... downloaded from site that has these high end music recording probably ripped from SACDs or some other top quality source.
Just use IMGBurn as was mentioned above, it will verify the burned copy against the source.

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so when I burn a WAV file that is 200mb and recording is in 5130kbps 192 quality .... what I hear out of my SACD/CD player is no where close to that file capability ??? It gets "downsampled" to standard CD music file that maybe 1411kbps or something like that?
Yes. If you burn in audio CD format it will down res/sample to 16 bit, 44.1 kHz.
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Yes. If you burn in audio CD format it will down res/sample to 16 bit, 44.1 kHz.
and if I burn as a file CD??? or as they say Data CD

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and if I burn as a file CD??? or as they say Data CD
If you burn as a file, the full resolution is kept; the issue is finding something other than a computer that can play it.
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yup if you burn it as audio CD it will have to convert it keep it to red book standard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact...io#Sample_rate

If you have PCM tracks higher than 44.1khz 16 bit you will have to use data type, CD players won't read them so you'd need a computer, or a media streamer.

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