Did Chris or Andrew mention anything about the upcoming add-on modules?
Also, not trying to be a pedant, but you may want to double check your math in the system prices. Based off the prices you quoted it looks like a 5.1.4 system with floorstanders upfront should cost $3,150 ( $700 (x2) + $400 + $750 + $600 = 2x front floorstanders (priced each) + center + stand-mount surrounds + sub). And for a 5.0 system using two pair of stand-mounts $1,900 ($750 (x2) + $400 = stand-mount (2 pr
) + center). Unless some kind of package pricing is offered that is.
Originally Posted by Scott Wilkinson
Overall, I'm very impressed with Pioneer's Atmos-enabled speakers, which sound wonderful—as they should, since they are quite a bit more expensive than the company's more budget-oriented yet highly regarded Andrew Jones-designed speakers. The SP-EFS73 floorstanders are $700 each, the SP-EBS73-LR bookshelves are $750/pair, the SP-EC73 center-channel is $400, and the SW-E10 subwoofer is $600, so a 5.1.4 system with floorstanders in front will set you back $2400, or you could go with four bookshelf models in the front and rear for $1750.
Originally Posted by <^..^>Smokey Joe
Correct me if I'm missing something, but I've seen atmos enabled amps with only 5.1/7.1 outputs. How do you connect another 4 outs?
Can we see more than theory pictures and some photos of the amp outputs?
No offense, but I believe you are wrong. Atmos requires overhead or Atmos-enabled speakers and at least of the major Japanese brands that have confirmed AVR's w/Atmos, none offer anything less than 5.1.2, so nothing with a 5.1. As for 7.1, that could be an option if someone were to buy an AtmosAVR and just run 7.1, but then no Atmos.
Originally Posted by RLBURNSIDE
I'm dying to hear a demo of this, because I'd like to implement it in our game engine. However, the current crop of receivers are a complete rippoff, in my estimation. Most only allow 5.1.2 or 5.1.4 or 7.1.2, and that's for upwards of 500, 1200, 1600, 2 grand. What a rip off. I mean, what you really need to do is have these receivers be daisy-chain-able so that you can process 5.2.5 or 7.2.7 atmos setups, which would be proper. As I see it now, the first year of Atmos is the bleeding edge, and receiver manufacturers are going to seriously price gouge people.
I'll pass in 2014. Maybe in 2015 I'll get a decent receiver that has pre-outs for 11.2 for less than 2 grand. I can't rationally justify even if Atmos was great, the risk of buying these receivers with the promise of a firmware update (Onkyo / Pioneer), of unknown quality / performance / durability / psycho-acoustic rendering of 3D audio. I totally believe in 3D audio, but not at these ridiculous prices, when even then they don't provide the kinds of setups that I'd like (e.g. 2 center channels, or 3 front, 3 rear, 3 front height, three rear height for a 12.2 setup). Why do they place arbitrary limits? I look forward to a company like Oppo releasing a Bluray UHD player that will output 9.2 or 11.2 at 1/2 the price of these expensive receivers and give us the ability to use active speakers or separates for a much better overall experience.
Entirely your prerogative to adopt whenever you may choose, but I disagree with these initial AVR's being a "ripoff." Most of these new AVR's are coming in an or near existing price points in their respective companies product lines. This is more of an add on feature with maybe a small premium where the brands already have solid options. If you are looking at something like the Denon AVR-X4100W for instance, you are paying $100 more than last years model, and you gain not only Atmos but built in Bluetooth and Wifi, hardly a "ripoff." The same can be said for the new AVR's from Pioneer, Yamaha, Marantz, and the other Denon models. Further, new technology normally comes at a premium compared to legacy equipment that has gone through many additional generations, already amortized the R&D costs, and experience economies of scale from a built in market. I commend the AV industry for not gouging for Atmos and think the price of the AVR's is pretty reasonable considering all of the above.