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newbie_nj 08-03-2014 07:31 AM

newbie looking for help in deciding between speakers/sub
 
I am been researching for last few weeks to buy my first home theatre. I have shortlisted three speakers, and would appreciate thoughts /suggestions on the following combinations:

Klipsch:
Klipsch Quintet 5
Subwoofer - not yet decided but considering Polk Audio PSW505 ; 12'' driver, 300 watt

Definitive Technology:
ProCinema 600
Subwoofer - not yet decided but considering Polk Audio PSW505 ; 12'' driver, 300 watt (same as above)

Energy 5.1 Take Classic
Subwoofer included in the package - 200 watt Energy subwoofer; 8" driver

For AV Receiver in each case, i am thinking Yamaha RX-V675 7.2 Channel

The Klipsch Quintet and Def Tech ProCinema 600 is costing me almost the same, while Energy 5.1 is costing about $250 less since the package includes the sub.

Questions
1. Between Klipsch and DefTech models above, which one would you recommend? note price is almost same
2. Is is worth spending $250 extra on DefTech and Klipsch over Energy 5.1?
3. Is the Polk subwoofer a good choice for the DefTech or Klipsch? Would you recommend anything better in $200 range (that's the price at which Polk is available on Amazon)

My living room is 23' x 13'; living room is 13'x13', rest is dining area. I realize the system above may be small for my room, but i dont want to spend more than $1000-$1200 for now - which is what the above combinations would cost me

thanks for you help!

djp2k7 08-03-2014 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by newbie_nj (Post 26257545)
I am been researching for last few weeks to buy my first home theatre. I have shortlisted three speakers, and would appreciate thoughts /suggestions on the following combinations:

Klipsch:
Klipsch Quintet 5
Subwoofer - not yet decided but considering Polk Audio PSW505 ; 12'' driver, 300 watt

Definitive Technology:
ProCinema 600
Subwoofer - not yet decided but considering Polk Audio PSW505 ; 12'' driver, 300 watt (same as above)

Energy 5.1 Take Classic
Subwoofer included in the package - 200 watt Energy subwoofer; 8" driver

For AV Receiver in each case, i am thinking Yamaha RX-V675 7.2 Channel

The Klipsch Quintet and Def Tech ProCinema 600 is costing me almost the same, while Energy 5.1 is costing about $250 less since the package includes the sub.

Questions
1. Between Klipsch and DefTech models above, which one would you recommend? note price is almost same
2. Is is worth spending $250 extra on DefTech and Klipsch over Energy 5.1?
3. Is the Polk subwoofer a good choice for the DefTech or Klipsch? Would you recommend anything better in $200 range (that's the price at which Polk is available on Amazon)

My living room is 23' x 13'; living room is 13'x13', rest is dining area. I realize the system above may be small for my room, but i dont want to spend more than $1000-$1200 for now - which is what the above combinations would cost me

thanks for you help!

If it were me and I was only considering those 3 options I would get the Energy Take Classic 5.0 pack without a subwoofer. You can find them on ebay and amazon. Then I would pair a Klipsch sub12 or HSU Research STF-2 subwoofer. But if you have a budget of $1200 you could easily get a decent sub and five larger bookshelf speakers that will provide better sound. Something like Boston Acoustics A25's or Pioneer SP-BS22's. The Yamaha receiver is an excellent choice imo.

FMW 08-03-2014 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbie_nj (Post 26257545)

Questions
1. Between Klipsch and DefTech models above, which one would you recommend? note price is almost same
2. Is is worth spending $250 extra on DefTech and Klipsch over Energy 5.1?
3. Is the Polk subwoofer a good choice for the DefTech or Klipsch? Would you recommend anything better in $200 range (that's the price at which Polk is available on Amazon)

1. Whichever sounds better to you
2. Only if it sounds better to you
3. BIC F12.

charmerci 08-03-2014 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbie_nj (Post 26257545)

My living room is 23' x 13'; living room is 13'x13', rest is dining area. I realize the system above may be small for my room, but i dont want to spend more than $1000-$1200 for now - which is what the above combinations would cost me

thanks for you help!

I think you'd be much better off spending that on a really good 2.1 system for now then get the center and surrounds later.

smasher50 08-03-2014 09:03 AM

fwiw, for first time ht with your budget I would try to get best quality sound for my hard earned money and the three options that you listed is not it.first the Yamaha receiver although a nice receiver(unless you got a great deal for it) for first time ht I would opt for maybe something a little less (maybe something like this http://www.accessories4less.com/make...airplay/1.html) and put the savings towards the real important part of your system the speakers especially your front three and sub just my 2 cents

Teremei 08-03-2014 12:17 PM

yes speakers are more important than receiver.

Some speakers in that price range. The EMPTEK's are a good bang for your buck speaker. The Aperion Intimus 5C center and 4T towers would be about a $1300 investment. Which is a slight bit more expensive and a slight step up from the EMPTEKs.

I say spend the $1300 on your 3 front speakers. You can get a cheap $150 pair of bookshelfs like energy or polk audio for now and it will sound great! Just invest in a great front soundstage first. The good thing about the Aperion is that they have higher end speakers and they have a 1 year trade up where you can turn your speakers in for an upgrade. I wish I did more research like that when I bought my Klipsch because now I'd be upgrading instead of looking to sell my klipsch THEN by another speaker.

newbie_nj 08-03-2014 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djp2k7 (Post 26258065)
If it were me and I was only considering those 3 options I would get the Energy Take Classic 5.0 pack without a subwoofer. You can find them on ebay and amazon. Then I would pair a Klipsch sub12 or HSU Research STF-2 subwoofer. But if you have a budget of $1200 you could easily get a decent sub and five larger bookshelf speakers that will provide better sound. Something like Boston Acoustics A25's or Pioneer SP-BS22's. The Yamaha receiver is an excellent choice imo.

Thanks! I will checkout the systems you mentioned

newbie_nj 08-03-2014 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FMW (Post 26258793)
1. Whichever sounds better to you
2. Only if it sounds better to you
3. BIC F12.

Thanks!

1. I am not able to check this out - have been to a few stores
2. I am not able to check this out - have been to a few stores
3. Thanks, will check

newbie_nj 08-03-2014 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smasher50 (Post 26259089)
fwiw, for first time ht with your budget I would try to get best quality sound for my hard earned money and the three options that you listed is not it.first the Yamaha receiver although a nice receiver(unless you got a great deal for it) for first time ht I would opt for maybe something a little less (maybe something like this http://www.accessories4less.com/make...airplay/1.html) and put the savings towards the real important part of your system the speakers especially your front three and sub just my 2 cents

Thanks! What models would you suggest for speakers? I am trying to get small speakers as my wife doesn't like the big ones in our decor - that's why i chose those speakers

newbie_nj 08-03-2014 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teremei (Post 26263297)
yes speakers are more important than receiver.

Some speakers in that price range. The EMPTEK's are a good bang for your buck speaker. The Aperion Intimus 5C center and 4T towers would be about a $1300 investment. Which is a slight bit more expensive and a slight step up from the EMPTEKs.

I say spend the $1300 on your 3 front speakers. You can get a cheap $150 pair of bookshelfs like energy or polk audio for now and it will sound great! Just invest in a great front soundstage first. The good thing about the Aperion is that they have higher end speakers and they have a 1 year trade up where you can turn your speakers in for an upgrade. I wish I did more research like that when I bought my Klipsch because now I'd be upgrading instead of looking to sell my klipsch THEN by another speaker.

Thanks. What about sub-woofer though?

smasher50 08-03-2014 03:53 PM

just a recommendation
denon avr x1000 $200 http://www.accessories4less.com/make...airplay/1.html


pair of htd level 3 fronts and center $500 http://www.htd.com/Products/level-three-speakers

pair of pioneer sp-bs22 for rears $126 but go on sale quite often for less
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS2...oneer+speakers


nxg bas 500 sub $270 http://www.amazon.com/NXG-Technology...=nxg+subwoofer


or http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...uctId=24534886 $10 cheaper

charmerci 08-03-2014 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smasher50 (Post 26267505)
just a recommendation
denon avr x1000 $200 http://www.accessories4less.com/make...airplay/1.html

pair of htd level 3 fronts and center $500 http://www.htd.com/Products/level-three-speakers

pair of pioneer sp-bs22 for rears $126 but go on sale quite often for less
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS2...oneer+speakers


nxg bas 500 sub $270 http://www.amazon.com/NXG-Technology...=nxg+subwoofer


or http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...uctId=24534886 $10 cheaper

I'd bypass the back surrounds and the nxg for now a use that $500 for a better sub.

Reaction - http://reaction-audio.myshopify.com/...ered-subwoofer

or

SVS - http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers

Teremei 08-03-2014 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbie_nj (Post 26266785)
Thanks. What about sub-woofer though?

You could get away with something like a BIC America F12. I used to own one and they packed quite a punch.
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F1...ywords=bic+f12

Then you could add a second one later, if you ever desired. Make the right decision, spend just a tad more, focus on the front soundstage for now. You will be very very happy you did, trust me. There are many great ones in that price range. I'd say check out their product websites, read reviews, see what they look like, and go from there. Me personally I love performance but I also like my speakers to have a nice look to them. And I really do like the look of the Klipsch I own even if I am just slightly dissatisfied with their performance. They are not bad enough for me to want to "do over". :)

Gecko85 08-03-2014 07:14 PM

Definitely get a better sub. Much better choices than the Polk. Check out Hsu. Email them and they will recommend the model that best suits your room and listening needs.

Agree with others on the receiver. Spend your money on speakers.

As for the speakers listed (or others), you just have to listen. Speakers are the one part of the system that's going to vary from brand to brand, model to model. For example, you mentioned Klipsch. They are very polarizing, depending on what type of sound you're looking for. People who like their particular sound love them. Those that don't, tend to hate them. That doesn't make them good or bad - it all depends on what *you* like.

newbie_nj 08-04-2014 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charmerci (Post 26269737)
I'd bypass the back surrounds and the nxg for now a use that $500 for a better sub.

Reaction - http://reaction-audio.myshopify.com/...ered-subwoofer

or

SVS - http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers

thanks! noted

newbie_nj 08-04-2014 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charmerci (Post 26269737)
I'd bypass the back surrounds and the nxg for now a use that $500 for a better sub.

Reaction - http://reaction-audio.myshopify.com/...ered-subwoofer

or

SVS - http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers

Thanks! Understood

newbie_nj 08-04-2014 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teremei (Post 26271105)
You could get away with something like a BIC America F12. I used to own one and they packed quite a punch.
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F1...ywords=bic+f12

Then you could add a second one later, if you ever desired. Make the right decision, spend just a tad more, focus on the front soundstage for now. You will be very very happy you did, trust me. There are many great ones in that price range. I'd say check out their product websites, read reviews, see what they look like, and go from there. Me personally I love performance but I also like my speakers to have a nice look to them. And I really do like the look of the Klipsch I own even if I am just slightly dissatisfied with their performance. They are not bad enough for me to want to "do over". :)

Got it. Agree, some other people on the thread also mentioned focusing on front for now, and recommended BIC F12. Think I will get that for the sub, but still not sure on speakers. Which model of Klipsch do you own?

newbie_nj 08-04-2014 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gecko85 (Post 26271585)
Definitely get a better sub. Much better choices than the Polk. Check out Hsu. Email them and they will recommend the model that best suits your room and listening needs.

Agree with others on the receiver. Spend your money on speakers.

As for the speakers listed (or others), you just have to listen. Speakers are the one part of the system that's going to vary from brand to brand, model to model. For example, you mentioned Klipsch. They are very polarizing, depending on what type of sound you're looking for. People who like their particular sound love them. Those that don't, tend to hate them. That doesn't make them good or bad - it all depends on what *you* like.

Got it. I have looked around a lot, but hard to find the speakers that i like on demonstration so i can listen. Dont understand what is "polarizing" sound or in fact what type of "sound" i like... that's am newbie! Do you have any suggestions on front/center speakers? or, any mentioned above in the thread that you have used?

Thanks!

zieglj01 08-05-2014 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbie_nj (Post 26300889)
I am trying to get small speakers as my wife doesn't like the big ones in our decor
Do you have any suggestions on front/center speakers?

Thanks!

For right, center and left fronts - 3 each NHT SuperZero
http://www.nhthifi.com/Bookshelf-spe...&category=3772

HSU STF-2 subwoofer
http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/stf-2.html

Add 2 more SuperZero speakers to make it 5.1

Teremei 08-05-2014 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbie_nj (Post 26300809)
Got it. Agree, some other people on the thread also mentioned focusing on front for now, and recommended BIC F12. Think I will get that for the sub, but still not sure on speakers. Which model of Klipsch do you own?

RC-62 II RF-62 II. The stands are great and handle soundtrack wonderfully. However some times the dialogue in the center sounds weird. They are very forward and in your face speakers. If you don't have them set up just right the dialogue can sound unnatural. That's my experience with them. The way I have them set up now they are working great.

Teremei 08-05-2014 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbie_nj (Post 26300889)
Got it. I have looked around a lot, but hard to find the speakers that i like on demonstration so i can listen. Dont understand what is "polarizing" sound or in fact what type of "sound" i like... that's am newbie! Do you have any suggestions on front/center speakers? or, any mentioned above in the thread that you have used?

Thanks!

The thing about Klipsch, is you can get them at lower than advertised price if you call authorized retailers. And if you do that you don't get a 30 day in home trail. Where as many other companies like Aperion and more have free 30 day trails so if you don't absolutely love the sound, you can send them back for free.

Gecko85 08-05-2014 08:05 AM

Hsu makes a full surround package, too, and they have 30 day in-home trial. There's a small bit of risk in that you'd have to pay return shipping if you don't like them. I guarantee you'll like their subs. I haven't heard their bookshelves, but they've got some really good reviews.

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/speakerpkg.html

newbie_nj 08-16-2014 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gecko85 (Post 26308129)
Hsu makes a full surround package, too, and they have 30 day in-home trial. There's a small bit of risk in that you'd have to pay return shipping if you don't like them. I guarantee you'll like their subs. I haven't heard their bookshelves, but they've got some really good reviews.

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/speakerpkg.html

what are people's thoughts on martin logan mlt-2 vs definitive technology?

zieglj01 08-16-2014 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbie_nj (Post 26626929)
what are people's thoughts on martin logan mlt-2 vs definitive technology?

I would take NHT over both of them


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