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Small Upgrade from Pioneer BS22

So this is for a bedroom setup (roughly 15x15) with a Denon E300 AVR and a 40" Sony TV. I'm thinking of switching from bookshelf speakers with stands to a tower setup. Due to the lack of space in my room (huge bed, bookshelfs, 3 computers) I can't really use a sub. I think towers would be a better choice if I can't use a sub. I've mostly been considering the Pioneer FS52 or the Infinity Primus P363. Would the FS52 be more of a sidegrade or would I notice a significant improvement over my current pair? I'm reading mixed opinions on the Infinity Primus P363, but it seems like another good option. Any opinions?
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what is the budget?

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Probably around $300 or so. I'm willing to spend a little extra if it's worth it, but I realize that I'm limited with my current space. Just trying to make the most of what I have.
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Probably around $300 or so. I'm willing to spend a little extra if it's worth it, but I realize that I'm limited with my current space. Just trying to make the most of what I have.
I would aim for the Infinity on that budget

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Alright, any specific reason as to why? How would they compare to my current setup?

EDIT: Doing some measurements and the towers might be a tight fit. May have to move some furniture around, but I don't think I'll have as many choices in terms of placement. Just to expand on my options, what are some good bookshelf speakers in this price range? I've read good things about the Cambridge S30 and seems like it would be more bassy then my BS22s. I should also specify that this setup is mostly for music and gaming.

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Alright, any specific reason as to why? How would they compare to my current setup?

EDIT: Doing some measurements and the towers might be a tight fit. May have to move some furniture around, but I don't think I'll have as many choices in terms of placement. Just to expand on my options, what are some good bookshelf speakers in this price range? I've read good things about the Cambridge S30 and seems like it would be more bassy then my BS22s. I should also specify that this setup is mostly for music and gaming.
For towers, I only picked the Infinity over the Pioneer because it would have more bass.

However, for a lot of music - then I would take the Pioneer towers.

However, placement is important and they need to be able to breathe (air space), to have
good radiation for imaging and sound-stage presentation.

Now for bookshelf speakers - I do like the Cambridge, and it has nice tight controlled bass
for its size - and I prefer it over the Pioneer.

For $340, I would go for the Boston M25 - they have a good nice detailed tweeter for good
definition - and they will have nice bass for their size.
http://www.accessories4less.com/make...ck-each/1.html

Decent, however not my first choice - HTD Level Three speakers - they will have some nice
bass for gaming - I will take them over the Pioneer BS22 bookshelf speakers
http://www.htd.com/Products/bookshel...FSbl7AodUDoABQ

Also, I do prefer the new Sony Core bookshelf speakers over the Pioneer BS22 - the Sony is nice
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-cor...&skuId=5721014

For music and games - the Definitive SM-450 would have been a goood option - however Newegg sold out again.

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Interesting, this is my first time hearing about the Sony speakers. I'll try to take a trip to Best Buy and give them a listen. Any opinions on the bass between the Cambridge and the Sony? I think either would be a good buy as long as the bass is an improvement over the Pioneers. I think I'm more interested in overall clarity and resolution.
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Interesting, this is my first time hearing about the Sony speakers. I'll try to take a trip to Best Buy and give them a listen. Any opinions on the bass between the Cambridge and the Sony? I think either would be a good buy as long as the bass is an improvement over the Pioneers. I think I'm more interested in overall clarity and resolution.
I have only tested the Sony at the store - so, I can not speak for in room bass response

The best way to judge is in your room - Sony does have good clarity and resolution for
the price.

However if possible, I would still try to find a way to fit a sub like the Outlaw M8, in your
room to pick up (augment) some lower notes, that will be missing from bookshelf speakers.
A good price with free shipping
https://outlawaudio.com/products/m8.html

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