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I have done some research and looking around the web... can anyone give me reason to go with anything other than HSU fronts, center, and sub? They seem to be very good bang for the buck.

These front speakers are going in a bookshelf and will be used for mostly quiet listening while the kids are asleep
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The HSUs are excellent speakers. If you are leaning very strongly toward them, I say go for it

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I did a lot of looking into the HSU speakers due to the price/performance ratio and I've read some stellar reviews all over the place. I was seriously thinking about getting some even though they are less expensive than what I'm using now and I already have speakers that punch well above their price point. The only reason I got side tracked is that I'm now really interested in checking out the M-Lores

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What should I get for rear speakers? My wife wants them in the ceiling.

How important is it to have good speakers in the rear, especially if they are in the ceiling?

Also, where should I get my speaker wire and subwoofer wire? Monoprice?

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If you are getting a Hsu package, you can use the Hsu HIWs as in-ceilings just as well as in-wall speakers. You might call Hsu and ask about a package like that. You can also use the infinity in-ceiling speakers like these, they might be a tad less expensive. Speaker and subwoofer cables can be had at monoprice.com. Remember that if you are running the cable through walls, you might want the in-wall cable which meets building codes. You might think about getting both in-walls and ceiling speakers for a Home Atmos setup which will be in a slew of new receivers next month. It's worth looking into.
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I have been reading reviews and looking online and I am starting to lean towards the NHT speakers. I like that they are smaller than the HSU speakers and should be good for placing in a bookshelf.

When I spoke to their sales guy he suggested I go with:

2 x SuperOne 2.1 for the fronts
Classic TwoC Center channel
2 x iC2 in ceiling speakers for the rear
Compact 8" powered subwoofer

What do you think about this package?
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When I spoke to their sales guy he suggested I go with:

2 x SuperOne 2.1 for the fronts
Classic TwoC Center channel
2 x iC2 in ceiling speakers for the rear
Compact 8" powered subwoofer

What do you think about this package?
Not bad - however, I would still prefer something like the Energy in ceiling speakers for surrounds >
and put the money saved, towards a 10 inch subwoofer.
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That is a great suggestion, the NHT in ceiling speakers are on the expensive side. That savings will definitely go towards a bigger sub, I am thinking the HSU STF-2.

Ao now the line up will be:

Two NHT SuperOne 2.1 in front
NHT Classic TwoC center channel
Two Energy EAS 6" in ceiling
HSU STF-2 sub

Any other suggestions? I am open to them
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I think that would sound great.

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For receivers I am looking at either the Denon AVR-X2000 or the Denon AVR-X2100.

Also, my system wont be in place until Christmas, is there any benefit to waiting? When do the new models of Denon receivers come out?
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For receivers I am looking at either the Denon AVR-X2000 or the Denon AVR-X2100.

Also, my system wont be in place until Christmas, is there any benefit to waiting? When do the new models of Denon receivers come out?
The new Denon's just came out, the X2000 is last years model. At the $399.99 price it is a very good deal and won't be around for much longer, I would pull the trigger on that now. If you need HDMI 2.0, then you will need one of the newer receivers, otherwise the X2000 is an excellent choice.

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Just placed my order for the Denon AVR-X2000 and the Energy 6" in-ceiling speakers.

Thanks for the recommendations!
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I cant decide which front speakers to get, trying to choose between:

Any suggestions? Most listening will be standard volume while the kids are asleep, not looking to rock the house.

I know I want the HSU STF-2 sub and would save some money buying their 3.1 Value 2 package since I am in Canada and have to take into account their shipping charges and duty, but I also want to make sure I get what is best.

- Paradigm Atom V7 and center channel ($800)
- NHT SuperOnes and Classic TwoC center ($700)
- HSU HB-1 with HC-1 center and HSU- STF2 ($650)
- HTD Level Three's fronts and center. ($650)

What is your vote?
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I'd probably go with the HSUs or the SuperOnes

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I cant decide which front speakers to get, trying to choose between:

Any suggestions? Most listening will be standard volume while the kids are asleep, not looking to rock the house.

I know I want the HSU STF-2 sub and would save some money buying their 3.1 Value 2 package since I am in Canada and have to take into account their shipping charges and duty, but I also want to make sure I get what is best.

- Paradigm Atom V7 and center channel ($800)
- NHT SuperOnes and Classic TwoC center ($700)
- HSU HB-1 with HC-1 center and HSU- STF2 ($650)
- HTD Level Three's fronts and center. ($650)

What is your vote?
My vote would be Hsu.

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SuperOne or HTD Level Three

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Where should I locate my speakers in my cabinet?

Here is a drawing of the cabinet. Obviously the center channel is going right above the TV.

Should I put the left and right from speakers in the top so they are level with the center channel or second to the top shelf?
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Where should I locate my speakers in my cabinet?

Here is a drawing of the cabinet. Obviously the center channel is going right above the TV.

Should I put the left and right from speakers in the top so they are level with the center channel or second to the top shelf?
How far is your listening position from the cabinet?

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Listening position is 12 to 15 feet.
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Listening position is 12 to 15 feet.
Ideally you want your fronts to form an equilateral triangle. So, same distance from the listening position to the L and R speakers as from the L speaker to the R speaker. So, you may need to put the fronts on stands just outside of the cabinet. Probably will sound better on stands anyway, as most speakers don't like to be boxed in by a cabinet. But, experiment. You never know...

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Thanks, There is a wall on the right hand side so stands wont really help unfortunately.

So if they do go in the cabinet then they should go on the outside edge of the shelves?

Should they be placed on the top shelf or the one below it?
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Thanks, There is a wall on the right hand side so stands wont really help unfortunately.

So if they do go in the cabinet then they should go on the outside edge of the shelves?

Should they be placed on the top shelf or the one below it?
Ideally, about the height your ears will be at...so probably not the top shelf.

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The best solution is to not put them on a shelving unit at all. Since that is not an option here, the second best position for them is on top of the unit ... but that won't pass WAF inspection, so .... put them on the shelf above the TV, with the L and R on the same level shelf to the sides or the shelf just below, whichever puts the tweeters of all three speakers the nearest to each other. The bookshelf speakers should sit on the shelf in a vertical configuration, NOT horizontal.

To get the most out of this set-up, you will need to isolate the speakers from the shelving unit using some sort of "feet". Sorbothane is all the rage (see Amazon), but any sort of rubber feet will help. Also, you will need to angle all three speakers down so they point towards the ear height of the seated listener (and take that into consideration when choosing the speaker's height, as you will need some "play" to allow for the angle). Use different sized rubber feet front and back, or a rubber door jam at the back, whatever you can find to accomplish this. Third, be sure the front of the speaker itself protrudes just slightly from the cabinet to reduce reflections off the cabinet itself (muddies the sound). If the wife won't go for the bookshelf speakers being angled down, the other alternative is to put the bookshelf speakers on a lower shelf. Not the best solution, but we don't have to sleep on your couch, you do ...

Lastly, do not get rear-ported speakers (cabinet reflections again). Use front-ported or sealed speakers only.

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From those choices I would probably go with the Hsus or possibly the HTDs. In a cabinet, the Hsus may have an advantage with their horn-loaded tweeter due to more controlled dispersion. A dome tweeter on a flat baffle may be more adversely affected by the cabinet surfaces. I wouldn't worry about rear porting, remember the frequencies that the port outputs are omnidirectional anyway, so cabinet reflections will not do much to hinder them, as long as you have just a little space behind the speaker. You will need a little space back there anyway for the speaker wire jacks. The NHT superzeros look good, except for their -6 dB point of 88 Hz. That is a bit high for my tastes, and may force your AVR into a higher than ideal crossover point. It would be less of a problem with multiple sub setups.
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Thanks for the great feedback!

How does this look?
I will angle the speakers down with rubber underneath
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You will want to angle the speakers down to face your listening position. You might look into some Auralex mopads for the bookshelf speakers. I don't know about the other speakers, but the Hsu center speaker does have a stand that lets you angle the center speaker downward or upward.
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I am leaning towards the HTD Level 2 speakers slightly over the HSU speakers, in part due to the smaller speaker size to get the wife's approval.
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Which are the better choice for mounting in a shelf? The HSU's are rear ported and the HTD's are front ported.

Does that mean the HTD's are a better choice for placement in my 16" deep shelf?
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Contrary to some common sentiments around here, the port orientation doesn't make that much of a difference here. The port outputs frequencies at the bottom of the speakers tuning point, in this instance it will be under 80 Hz. Frequencies in this range are omnidirectional- they don't care where the acoustic emitter is, because that sound is going to travel everywhere. I wouldn't worry about the port orientation, just as long as the port has a couple inches of space around it.
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I think I will get the HTD Level Two speakers for the front and save up and get the HSU VTF-2 down the road.

What do you think of me choosing the HTD Level 2 over the HSU front speakers?
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