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Please help me, looking to buy my first system.

My budget will be at $1100, more or less depending the difference of the quality. I'm open to all thoughts and inputs.
My purpose of use is for Movies, Music, and Computer.
I don't have alot of room, so no towers please. I can afford anything else, but towers. Thank you for understanding.

I like to listen to slow songs, so good base and clarity is the key? Correct me if i'm wrong, because i'm totally new to this.

My current speakers: Bose Companion 5, i had these for a little over 4 years. I've read tons of articles and reviews about how "Bose" is bad and etc. I know their speakers are terrible without the sub woofer or whatever it is. What i get out of Bose is the somewhat "smooth or realism" effects when watching movies. This could due to my lack of expertise in the field. I think i read somewhere saying Bose are specialism in their Low's, and they have some patent in their giant box or whatever crap. Am i better off buying "Accoustimass 10" system for $1000 and a receiver?


I bought a pair of *B & W CM5* speakers recently to test it out with an entry level receiver (Yamaha rx-575). I know i'm not doing this right because the speaker it self is perfect, but i don't have everything else to make the CM5 shine. Therefore i returned the item because i felt more satisfy listening to my Bose Companion 5.

I'm not an audio expert and i would like to get as many genuine opinions as possible. Can you guys give me some sort of combinations for me to buy a descent set of "Audiophile quality" speakers? What i like from my Bose was the bass whatever they had built in the darn box, definitely not the speakers it self.

I thought about buying: Audioengine A5+ speakers, along with their Audioengine S8 Subwoofer (Which is about $800) and call it a day. Or can i do more with my money to achieve even better sound quality? I also went to several electronic stores to check out Audio receivers, but i can't differentiate between the ($300 vs $1200). Do they have some sort of magic in them like the Bose box? Does it make my music sound 10x better with $1200 receiver?

Thank you so much for your time and hope to hear from the experts soon.

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Audioengine A5+ with their sub? Meh. You already have a receiver, and you can do better. And their sub is definitely over priced.

Here's a deal you could jump on. Outlaw Audio LFM-1 Plus or LFM-1 EX. The difference between the EX and that Audioengine sub would be like the difference between a moped and a Harley in overall performance. Plus is pretty good, too. I think the sale ends sometime this week. You could spend double what they cost at Best Buy on a sub and not get something as good.

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My budget will be at $1100, more or less depending the difference of the quality. I'm open to all thoughts and inputs.
My purpose of use is for Movies, Music, and Computer.
I don't have alot of room, so no towers please. I can afford anything else, but towers. Thank you for understanding.

I like to listen to slow songs, so good base and clarity is the key? Correct me if i'm wrong, because i'm totally new to this.

My current speakers: Bose Companion 5, i had these for a little over 4 years. I've read tons of articles and reviews about how "Bose" is bad and etc. I know their speakers are terrible without the sub woofer or whatever it is. What i get out of Bose is the somewhat "smooth or realism" effects when watching movies. This could due to my lack of expertise in the field. I think i read somewhere saying Bose are specialism in their Low's, and they have some patent in their giant box or whatever crap. Am i better off buying "Accoustimass 10" system for $1000 and a receiver?


I bought a pair of *B & W CM5* speakers recently to test it out with an entry level receiver (Yamaha rx-575). I know i'm not doing this right because the speaker it self is perfect, but i don't have everything else to make the CM5 shine. Therefore i returned the item because i felt more satisfy listening to my Bose Companion 5.

I'm not an audio expert and i would like to get as many genuine opinions as possible. Can you guys give me some sort of combinations for me to buy a descent set of "Audiophile quality" speakers? What i like from my Bose was the bass whatever they had built in the darn box, definitely not the speakers it self.

I thought about buying: Audioengine A5+ speakers, along with their Audioengine S8 Subwoofer (Which is about $800) and call it a day. Or can i do more with my money to achieve even better sound quality? I also went to several electronic stores to check out Audio receivers, but i can't differentiate between the ($300 vs $1200). Do they have some sort of magic in them like the Bose box? Does it make my music sound 10x better with $1200 receiver?

Thank you so much for your time and hope to hear from the experts soon.
With that low of budget you got pretty much 3 options...
1. Get the most out of your money and go with a full on home theater 5.1/7.1 with decent sound and a sub that lacks a little.

2. Get two really nice speakers for your fronts and a good sub on a 2.1 system that will lack in full effects in movies and sound movement that periodically shoots though 5.1 sound from concert movies and recordings.

3.. My favorite solution...expand your budget to 3,000 and lets build a real system

And yes a higher performance receiver will make a load of difference reasons more speakers.. More sound.. More watts better and louder the sound will be. And different brand name receivers will sometimes make your speakers even sound a little different.
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Hi, thanks for the reply. I currently do not have a receiver. Reason why i chose A5+ was because it doesn't require a receiver. What are some receiver that i should be looking at?

What about the Onkyo 535 or 636? Yamaha rx 575? Should i go something better or lower? as my purpose of use for the speaker is not extreme, I just want something that sound better than Bose for my room.
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Hi, thanks for the reply. I currently do not have a receiver. Reason why i chose A5+ was because it doesn't require a receiver. What are some receiver that i should be looking at?

What about the Onkyo 535 or 636? Yamaha rx 575? Should i go something better or lower? as my purpose of use for the speaker is not extreme, I just want something that sound better than Bose for my room.
Not a fan of those brands.
I think Onkyo is trash and Yamaha doesn't make products to last and their tech service annoys me.

I like these receivers
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Can u refer some models for me to look at? I don't want to buy something i don't have an efficient use for. Thanks in advance.
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Can u refer some models for me to look at? I don't want to buy something i don't have an efficient use for. Thanks in advance.
What I recommend is really expensive but okay.. here some.
There is a reason why they're expensive cause their tech support is awesome any problem at all.. They'll take care of it no questions asked and will always help you out no matter if your warranty is up.
Marantz AV8801
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With that low of budget you got pretty much 3 options...
1. Get the most out of your money and go with a full on home theater 5.1/7.1 with decent sound and a sub that lacks a little.

2. Get two really nice speakers for your fronts and a good sub on a 2.1 system that will lack in full effects in movies and sound movement that periodically shoots though 5.1 sound from concert movies and recordings.

3.. My favorite solution...expand your budget to 3,000 and lets build a real system

And yes a higher performance receiver will make a load of difference reasons more speakers.. More sound.. More watts better and louder the sound will be. And different brand name receivers will sometimes make your speakers even sound a little different.
Thanks for the advice. What are some home theater 5.1\7.1 i should be looking at? do u have any model for me to do some research on?
What are some good subs btw? if i want to go 2.1?

Say if i were to stretch my budget to $2k, can we build something on this? I really don't wanna do $3k unless it is a must. Thanks!
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What I recommend is really expensive but okay.. here some.
There is a reason why they're expensive cause their tech support is awesome any problem at all.. They'll take care of it no questions asked and will always help you out no matter if your warranty is up.
Marantz AV8801
Marantz-SR5008
Any Denon X3000 or x4000 series
You mind telling me why do customer service matter so much? Do receivers died quite often? How long does one last in general?
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You don't have a receiver yet. I prefer Denons.
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mh522: If you look at cel4145's post, you will see "Speaker FAQ". I highly recommend that you read it. He points out many items that people should be looking for before buying anything.

That being said, AudioEngine makes some pretty good active speakers for a computer desktop, and while their sub may also be pretty good, it is overpriced for an 8-inch driver. My son was thinking about getting the AudioEngine sub for his A2s, but I nixed that idea. I bought him an SVS SB-1000 for his small office for his birthday.

We could help you better if you give us the square footage and ceiling height of your room (especially in selecting a subwoofer). And while I may like the A2s and A5s (for a desktop environment), there are much better passive bookshelf speakers out there for equal or less money.

You might look at EMP Tek's E5Bi bookshelf speakers. (URL didn't work). Add a couple of speaker stands for $100 and spend some real dollars on a good sub and you'll have money left over for a decent AVR (you can add the center channel and surround speakers later if you decide to go that way).
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Not a fan of those brands.
I think Onkyo is trash


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Yep. An Outlaw LFM-1 Plus. The EMP Teks, or maybe for a little more, HSU HB-1s or Ascend Acoustics CBM-170 SEs, and then $200 to $300 on a receiver, and you'll be impressed. You'll be so thankful you didn't go Acoustimass

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any thoughts on Klipsch RB-61 II ?

My room is not very big, ~15xx cubic feet. What kind of setup will give me the most bang for my buck for a 2.1 system? Thanks!
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any thoughts on Klipsch RB-61 II ?

My room is not very big, ~15xx cubic feet. What kind of setup will give me the most bang for my buck for a 2.1 system? Thanks!
If you like ear piercing treble go for it.
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If you like ear piercing treble go for it.
I like Clean and clear easy listening speakers, can u help me?
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I like Clean and clear easy listening speakers, can u help me?
It's really personal preference...

Since I live next to a Home Theater shop I hear tons of speakers..

The speaker I was mostly impressed by was the Kef LS 50.. I dunno what it is about that speaker but they sure did their research on it.

Not the most aesthetic speaker... But damn it sounds good!!

Dali I was also impressed by in it's price range a little bright but not as bad as Klipsch reference line.

Paradigm Studio 100's.. They are quite impressive cause they go really loud and don't distort

No speaker is perfect they all have their flaws.
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My budget will be at $1100, more or less depending the difference of the quality. I'm open to all thoughts and inputs.
My purpose of use is for Movies, Music, and Computer.
I don't have alot of room, so no towers please. I can afford anything else, but towers. Thank you for understanding.

I like to listen to slow songs, so good base and clarity is the key? Correct me if i'm wrong, because i'm totally new to this.

My current speakers: Bose Companion 5, i had these for a little over 4 years. I've read tons of articles and reviews about how "Bose" is bad and etc. I know their speakers are terrible without the sub woofer or whatever it is. What i get out of Bose is the somewhat "smooth or realism" effects when watching movies. This could due to my lack of expertise in the field. I think i read somewhere saying Bose are specialism in their Low's, and they have some patent in their giant box or whatever crap. Am i better off buying "Accoustimass 10" system for $1000 and a receiver?


I bought a pair of *B & W CM5* speakers recently to test it out with an entry level receiver (Yamaha rx-575). I know i'm not doing this right because the speaker it self is perfect, but i don't have everything else to make the CM5 shine. Therefore i returned the item because i felt more satisfy listening to my Bose Companion 5.

I'm not an audio expert and i would like to get as many genuine opinions as possible. Can you guys give me some sort of combinations for me to buy a descent set of "Audiophile quality" speakers? What i like from my Bose was the bass whatever they had built in the darn box, definitely not the speakers it self.

I thought about buying: Audioengine A5+ speakers, along with their Audioengine S8 Subwoofer (Which is about $800) and call it a day. Or can i do more with my money to achieve even better sound quality? I also went to several electronic stores to check out Audio receivers, but i can't differentiate between the ($300 vs $1200). Do they have some sort of magic in them like the Bose box? Does it make my music sound 10x better with $1200 receiver?

Thank you so much for your time and hope to hear from the experts soon.

I had a similar situation purchasing B&W CM9's. They sounded amazing, but I really wanted a 5.1 system and it would have been a couple of grand with the B&W CM series, which is currently out of my budget. I picked up a Bose Acoustimass 10 from Bose Factory Outlet for $499 (I think the sale is on until the end of the week). Anyways, I thought the Bose sounded better than the CM9's, likely because of the 5.1 surround sound setup and because I know little about speakers. Yah, Bose probably not the best sounding speaker from what I have read here, but so far they seem to work for my needs (football, news, movies on the weekend, and occasional music).
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It's really personal preference...

Since I live next to a Home Theater shop I hear tons of speakers..

The speaker I was mostly impressed by was the Kef LS 50.. I dunno what it is about that speaker but they sure did their research on it.

Not the most aesthetic speaker... But damn it sounds good!!

Dali I was also impressed by in it's price range a little bright but not as bad as Klipsch reference line.

Paradigm Studio 100's.. They are quite impressive cause they go really loud and don't distort

No speaker is perfect they all have their flaws.
I think you need to be more mindful of what the OP wants. He comes in here with a $1000 budget looking for a stereo system, suggesting he spend three times that and bashing brands is not really helping anyone.

OP, you can definitely do better than the Bose for $1000, and no you don't need to spend $3000 to do so.

I would look at a good entry level receiver, I like Denon because it comes with Audyssey room correction. You can get the AVR-X1000 for $199.99 at www.accessories4less.com. With your budget don't spend anymore on a receiver.

With $800 left, I would buy a sub and a pair of bookshelves. Since you are in a small room, the SVS SB-1000 would be a great choice. It is a sealed sub that will be very accurate and offer up tight controlled bass. It is fairly compact so you can put it just about anywhere, and will be a night and day improvement over the bass module Bose includes.

With $300, get yourself a pair of bookshelves. You have a lot of good options here:

HTD Level Three (front ported and ribbon tweeter)
HSU HB-1 MK2 (horn loaded, might not be the best if you are sitting close)
EMP E5Bi (Excellent mid-range and dynamics, best looking speaker of the bunch)
Arx A1rx-c (Great all-around speaker, strong bass, finish is basic)
Ascend CBM-170 (Excellent neutral speaker, very accurate, finish is basic)
Wharfedale 10.1 (Laid back, good mid-range, high build quality)
KEF Q100 (Uni-Q driver is very good, little over budget but a solid choice)

All of these speakers are better choices than the Bose in my opinion, by a good margin. Combined with the SVS sub, you will have a very good 2.1 system, and you have the option of expanding in the future to 3.1/5.1.

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I think you need to be more mindful of what the OP wants. He comes in here with a $1000 budget looking for a stereo system, suggesting he spend three times that and bashing brands is not really helping anyone.

OP, you can definitely do better than the Bose for $1000, and no you don't need to spend $3000 to do so.

I would look at a good entry level receiver, I like Denon because it comes with Audyssey room correction. You can get the AVR-X1000 for $199.99 at www.accessories4less.com. With your budget don't spend anymore on a receiver.

With $800 left, I would buy a sub and a pair of bookshelves. Since you are in a small room, the SVS SB-1000 would be a great choice. It is a sealed sub that will be very accurate and offer up tight controlled bass. It is fairly compact so you can put it just about anywhere, and will be a night and day improvement over the bass module Bose includes.

With $300, get yourself a pair of bookshelves. You have a lot of good options here:

HTD Level Three (front ported and ribbon tweeter)
HSU HB-1 MK2 (horn loaded, might not be the best if you are sitting close)
EMP E5Bi (Excellent mid-range and dynamics, best looking speaker of the bunch)
Arx A1rx-c (Great all-around speaker, strong bass, finish is basic)
Ascend CBM-170 (Excellent neutral speaker, very accurate, finish is basic)
Wharfedale 10.1 (Laid back, good mid-range, high build quality)
KEF Q100 (Uni-Q driver is very good, little over budget but a solid choice)

All of these speakers are better choices than the Bose in my opinion, by a good margin. Combined with the SVS sub, you will have a very good 2.1 system, and you have the option of expanding in the future to 3.1/5.1.
All good advice.

The SB-1000 is definitely great for a compact sub. I would choose the LFM-1 Plus over it for movies because of the deeper extension. Music, the SB-1000 might have an edge over the Plus. If you ever want to crank up the system to pretty loud volumes, the Plus would definitely have the advantage. The biggest advantage of the SB-1000 over the Plus is it's small size, if that's a consideration.

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I think you need to be more mindful of what the OP wants. He comes in here with a $1000 budget looking for a stereo system, suggesting he spend three times that and bashing brands is not really helping anyone.

OP, you can definitely do better than the Bose for $1000, and no you don't need to spend $3000 to do so.

I would look at a good entry level receiver, I like Denon because it comes with Audyssey room correction. You can get the AVR-X1000 for $199.99 at www.accessories4less.com. With your budget don't spend anymore on a receiver.

With $800 left, I would buy a sub and a pair of bookshelves. Since you are in a small room, the SVS SB-1000 would be a great choice. It is a sealed sub that will be very accurate and offer up tight controlled bass. It is fairly compact so you can put it just about anywhere, and will be a night and day improvement over the bass module Bose includes.

With $300, get yourself a pair of bookshelves. You have a lot of good options here:

HTD Level Three (front ported and ribbon tweeter)
HSU HB-1 MK2 (horn loaded, might not be the best if you are sitting close)
EMP E5Bi (Excellent mid-range and dynamics, best looking speaker of the bunch)
Arx A1rx-c (Great all-around speaker, strong bass, finish is basic)
Ascend CBM-170 (Excellent neutral speaker, very accurate, finish is basic)
Wharfedale 10.1 (Laid back, good mid-range, high build quality)
KEF Q100 (Uni-Q driver is very good, little over budget but a solid choice)

All of these speakers are better choices than the Bose in my opinion, by a good margin. Combined with the SVS sub, you will have a very good 2.1 system, and you have the option of expanding in the future to 3.1/5.1.
Who said I was bashing brands??

I was giving my input on flaws on even higher end speakers have and recommend them as well.
And yes if you want something that sounds crisp and perfect its going to be about 3 grand unless you buy junk just like that Svs sub you recommend to everyone.
You obviously have never heard JL Audio e110 ,JL Fanthom or Dayton Audio RS1202A it blows that Svs out the water!! Seems the only stuff you recommend, is what this forum has discussed.
I bet you never even heard half the speakers you even gawk about, you just go off of what people say in the headlines.

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And yes if you want something that sounds crisp and perfect its going to be about 3 grand unless you buy junk just like that Svs sub you recommend to everyone.
You obviously have never heard JL Audio e110 ,JL Fanthom or Dayton Audio RS1202A it blows that Svs out the water!! Seems the only stuff you recommend, is what this forum has discussed.
I bet you never even heard half the speakers you even gawk about, you just go off of what people say in the headlines.
Condescending tone aside, you again fail to see my point. I have heard JL subs yes, and yes they sound great, but I would expect that from a $3500 sub woofer. The OP has a $1000 budget, what you are discussing is not even close to relevant, if you can't scale your suggestions to fit someones budget then you shouldn't post in a thread like this. There is merit to showing people what more money gets them, but have some perspective...
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Who said I was bashing brands??

I was giving my input on flaws on even higher end speakers have and recommend them as well.
And yes if you want something that sounds crisp and perfect its going to be about 3 grand unless you buy junk just like that Svs sub you recommend to everyone.
You obviously have never heard JL Audio e110 ,JL Fanthom or Dayton Audio RS1202A it blows that Svs out the water!! Seems the only stuff you recommend, is what this forum has discussed.
I bet you never even heard half the speakers you even gawk about, you just go off of what people say in the headlines.
I would imagine Transmaniacon would agree with me when I say that of course there are better subs if one is willing to spend 2 to 3 times as much. There are also better subs out there than the ones you are recommending for even more money.

However, the subs being talked about in this thread are among the best options for the OP: they would provide an excellent listening experience for the OP with his budget, are a much better value than anything he could purchase in a store, and are a great improvement over the Bose midbass module that he was using. I have the SVS SB-1000. Excellent sound for a compact sub for its price. I have the Outlaw EX. The Plus or the EX would also be excellent subs for the OP to fit his budget.

Given the subs you list would use up the OP's budget or exceed it, leaving him no money for speakers, why don't you make a RELEVANT recommendation? If you want to discuss why those subs are better than $500 subs, then the subwoofer forum would be a more appropriate place. If you don't have any RELEVANT recommendations, then maybe you might realize you have nothing to contribute to the conversation
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Condescending tone aside, you again fail to see my point. I have heard JL subs yes, and yes they sound great, but I would expect that from a $3500 sub woofer. The OP has a $1000 budget, what you are discussing is not even close to relevant, if you can't scale your suggestions to fit someones budget then you shouldn't post in a thread like this. There is merit to showing people what more money gets them, but have some perspective...

Too slow in writing and posting my response. Glad to see we do agree. And pretty much said the same things
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Condescending tone aside, you again fail to see my point. I have heard JL subs yes, and yes they sound great, but I would expect that from a $3500 sub woofer. The OP has a $1000 budget, what you are discussing is not even close to relevant, if you can't scale your suggestions to fit someones budget then you shouldn't post in a thread like this. There is merit to showing people what more money gets them, but have some perspective...
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onkyo is trash!!

And he asked what he needed to spend to get that sound I said" 3 Grand" and I'm sticking by that and the E110 is not $3500 nor is the Dayton same price ranges that you recommend that SVS LOL.

I think you're just mad because you own the little sister group of RBH and probably a Onkyo receiver wishing you had a Denon
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I was asked to give my thoughts and
onkyo is trash!!

And he asked what he needed to spend to get that sound I said" 3 Grand" and I'm sticking by that and the E110 is not $3500 nor is the Dayton same price ranges that you recommend that SVS LOL.

I think you're just mad because you own the little sister group of RBH and probably a Onkyo receiver wishing you had a Denon
Maybe you should give some evidence as to why you think "Onkyo is trash".

That is fine that you think $3000 is what is needed to get that sound, but this means that you probably aren't the best person to make recommendations in this thread.

Maybe you should get your facts straight buddy, the E110 is not part of the Fathom series, and yes those Fathom subs you recommended earlier range from $2600 to $6700
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I second the Denon x1000 for your budget, ESPECIALLY that it can be had for $199 with the above-provided link, or under $300 at Amazon. Great price either way.

I don't know if you have a Fry's Electronics in your area, but they have frequently been having sales on the Energy RC series. I have seen the RC-10 (tremendous bookshelf speakers) for as low as $130 a pair (typically go for $200ish when on sale), and the RC-LCR center for $250.

My setup with a $1000 budget (went over, but still within reason)

Denon X1000 - $350
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Energy RC-10 pair (front R and L) $250
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SVS PB12-NSD subwoofer $550

That was just over $1,500 for something that has blown every single person away who will let me demo movies for them. I didnt pay full price for anything, most of that was 30 to 50 percent off, could have saved more if I was patient. I have since added a second SVS PB12-NSD sub, because the wife let me so why not.

I highly recommended SVS and there are a few other online sub companies suggested to me that will give you 2-3x the bang for your buck than you can get walking into a store. Best advice, do your research and ask A LOT of questions here, make sure you are doing things right in terms of timbre matching your front sound stage, selecting the right sub and right sub placement, etc, and you will be able to piece together something very nice that is fairly close to your budget. TAKE YOUR TIME!
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Maybe you should give some evidence as to why you think "Onkyo is trash".

That is fine that you think $3000 is what is needed to get that sound, but this means that you probably aren't the best person to make recommendations in this thread.

Maybe you should get your facts straight buddy, the E110 is not part of the Fathom series, and yes those Fathom subs you recommended earlier range from $2600 to $6700
Bro you obviously keep putting stuff in my mouth that I didn't say and not reading I just said the e110 is not a 3500 nor is that Dayton and they are still better!

And have you seen what type of transistors and boards theyt put in Onkyo???? YAAAAAAAA you haven't cause they're trash!!!!!!!!

And my recommendations are way better than yours Mr. EMP!
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Thanks everyone for your input, i'm wondering if should spend more $ than i should for the front bookshelf speakers? or is it better to get entry $300 one's and buy everything else to complete the 5.1 for ~1500$. Which one will give me a more satisfying listening experience? I'm not looking to earthshaking and loud sound. Just something nice, clean, and light. I listen to stuff at a low-moderate level. Also, i will be placing these speakers quite close to me at a computer desk, so any advice and inputs will be greatly appreciated. Thanks again!!!
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