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looking for more kick out of my cm9's and sub

i recently purchased a pair of cm9's along with a pair of asw610 subs. i absolutely love the detail and overall sound of the cm9s . i do realize however they're particular strength is not bass. i am still however trying to get just a little more oomph out of my stereo setup.

i have the speakers i mentioned before and they're driven by a denon 4520ci. i have worked through and tweaked a lot of the settings on the receiver working with what audyssey has to offer. i have gotten the sound much better compared to when i first brought it all home.

would i get much more out of going with an asw10cm over two 610's? i suppose i could always add a 2nd 10cm in the future but they are quite expensive!! i have heard bowers subs are overpriced for what ya get but unfortunately i really wanna keep all matching if possible. my living room, dining room, and kitchen are all giant room so these speakers will be seen and heard by anyone who comes into the house...which is also worth mentioning as far as me having bass problems..its a wood floors, big room, and vaulted ceilings

i have installed the plugs in the cm9s as they are closer to the walls than i prefer and the wood floors resonate enough already.

on a side note, would an external amp like the emotiva xpa-3 do much for me as far as low end kick goes?
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No. You should skip the B&W subs all together. There are better values to be had from Internet vendors HSU research, SVS Sound, Power Sound Audio, Outlaw Audio, Rythmik Audio, and Reaction Audio. Research in the AVS subwoofer forum to learn more.
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You should get better subs if the weak point is the bass. I agree with the above poster. Besides its just a big black box. A SVS sub matches your speakers just as well as the B&W sub.

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You should get better subs if the weak point is the bass. I agree with the above poster. Besides its just a big black box. A SVS sub matches your speakers just as well as the B&W sub.
after doing some more digging i think i can make an svs sub work as they're style and looks will match the rest of my system and they are getting rave reviews compared to bowers subs..

if i were to go svs what would you recommend? max budget of $1500.

i have an extremely large room to fill, 26x24 room with vaulted ceilings , wood floors, and two very large windows in the room ..its an acoustic nightmare.

i listen to 80% music 20% movies
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after doing some more digging i think i can make an svs sub work as they're style and looks will match the rest of my system and they are getting rave reviews compared to bowers subs..

if i were to go svs what would you recommend? max budget of $1500.

i have an extremely large room to fill, 26x24 room with vaulted ceilings , wood floors, and two very large windows in the room ..its an acoustic nightmare.

i listen to 80% music 20% movies
Dual SVS PB2000's can be had for $1,499
http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/du...s/dual-pb-2000
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after doing some more digging i think i can make an svs sub work as they're style and looks will match the rest of my system and they are getting rave reviews compared to bowers subs..

if i were to go svs what would you recommend? max budget of $1500.

i have an extremely large room to fill, 26x24 room with vaulted ceilings , wood floors, and two very large windows in the room ..its an acoustic nightmare.

i listen to 80% music 20% movies
With that size room, I'd go for a very high output sub. A Rythmik FV15HP.

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after doing some more digging i think i can make an svs sub work as they're style and looks will match the rest of my system and they are getting rave reviews compared to bowers subs..

if i were to go svs what would you recommend? max budget of $1500.

i have an extremely large room to fill, 26x24 room with vaulted ceilings , wood floors, and two very large windows in the room ..its an acoustic nightmare.

i listen to 80% music 20% movies
Call SVS and see what they recommend for your room. Maybe dual subs is the best way to go for you...

Call: 1.877.626.5623

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Id go for the SVS or other ID company such as HSU or Rythmik. I run dual SVS subs for a straight 50/50 split on music and movies. For the space you will need larger subs. I would consider the 12 or 13 PBS plus. Start with one then you can save for a second if warrented. Enjoy....
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Dual SVS PB2000's can be had for $1,499
http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/du...s/dual-pb-2000
This is probably what I would go with. Dual subs will be beneficial in a room like this, and these subs will be a huge upgrade over those B&Ws. However, if you see yourself being able to add a second sub down the road, then that Rythmik FV15HP is the way to go right now.

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This is probably what I would go with. Dual subs will be beneficial in a room like this, and these subs will be a huge upgrade over those B&Ws. However, if you see yourself being able to add a second sub down the road, then that Rythmik FV15HP is the way to go right now.
i just contacted svs and they recommended the sb 2000 . What exactly are the differences between the sb2000 and pb2000?
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One is ported box, the other is sealed box. For smaller rooms I'd recomend sealed box. For medium and larger room, ported. Of course if you have a large room, you could get multiple sealed, but the cost starts to build up. You could get away with one PB2000, but you might need dual SB2000.

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$1500 is a good budget for most rooms. However, over 6,000 cu.ft. (considered "extreme" by subwoofer standards) places high demands on any subwoofer. Those subs that have been mentioned are really great choices. Since most of your enjoyment comes from music, the Rythmik mentioned may really impress you. You also may want to look at Hsu, PSA and Reaction Audio. All have extremely capable subwoofers as well. PSA just updated their drivers for the "se" versions in their Power-X line and are very musical as well. Reaction Audio's Jeremy is a musician, so I think it's safe to say his subs would handle most any music you could throw at it.

And a few well positioned large throw rugs might take some of the edge off your room acoustics. Draperies are nice as well. You should contact these companies and see what they say.
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That is odd. I find my CM9s have plenty of bass for music when running in 2 ch Pure Audio mode. They sound very clean from top to bottom and I would call them accurate. You might be used to an artificial bass response.

Obviously, for movies, a good sub becomes necessary. I run a JL Fathom and it works great with them as it fills in the ultra low end with clean bass.


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