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Best bookshelves for 250-300

I know the budget is slim, but I just spent most money budgeted for speakers on my sub, the Reaction Audio bps-215.

I'm considering the chane m-1s or ARX a1.. Seem to be the best for the money. Any other competitors as good and as cheap?

Edit: realized I out no details of my situation.

I'll be using them for a 2.1 set up run off a budget 100 w/Channel 5.1 receiver. Listening distance is about 10 feet, but will be set up for parties etc, so will need to cover more space then that.

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One speaker that looks good for around that price is the Wavecrest HVL-1. It is just a straightforward, well-behaved bookshelf speaker.
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A good option is the Definitive SM-450 speaker - and it does measure nice
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agree on the sm450s we had the sm 350s for years a good bang for the buck speaker.
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On a budget with a sub???
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_760IMGB...ark-Cherry.htm
Just ordered some b5's so i haven't heard them yet, but they are well regarded. They have some open box ones as well at this moment.
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_760IMGB...Ash.html?cc=02
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Gee, I feel like a shill since I recommend auditioning this speaker so often, and I don't even own the product: http://hometheaterreview.com/emp-tek...aker-reviewed/
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I know the budget is slim, but I just spent most money budgeted for speakers on my sub, the Reaction Audio bps-215.

I'm considering the chane m-1s or ARX a1.. Seem to be the best for the money. Any other competitors as good and as cheap?

Edit: realized I out no details of my situation.

I'll be using them for a 2.1 set up run off a budget 100 w/Channel 5.1 receiver. Listening distance is about 10 feet, but will be set up for parties etc, so will need to cover more space then that.

I suggest the Cambridge Audio SX-50 speakers, for $249 at Crutchfield, Amazon etc.
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All wonderful suggestions so quick, didn't realize there was such a variety at this price range worth considering. Do those def techs really measure that low? Seems a bit exaggerated for a 6.5 inch woofer..
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Sadly, Def Tech is under the impression that they can put any number that passes their fancy into their product specifications and people will believe them. While their reputation is notorious for inflating their numbers to the extreme, they do make pretty good speakers, so they are worth an audition.
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All wonderful suggestions so quick, didn't realize there was such a variety at this price range worth considering. Do those def techs really measure that low? Seems a bit exaggerated for a 6.5 inch woofer..
No - however, they will go below 50 hz in room response

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I think the best thing you can do for that kind of money is to see whats available on craigslist. If I lived where you do I'd never bother with buying new speakers - simply buy the castoffs of those who have to have the next best thing in speakers.

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I feel the same way as I tend to recommend the HSU speakers even though I don't own them either. I've always wanted to check them out though and will probably grab a pair just to see.

For the OP, here is a link to them.. http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/hb-1.html

I've seen quite a few recommendations from people who's opinion I trust and were really happy with them even though their current speakers were much more expensive. I believe they have a trial period as well which is great.

Edit: Looks like they may be slightly out of your price range at $320 for the pair and then shipping on top of that.

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I own emp speakers and have heard the bookshelf. If you like neutral, you won't find better for the price. I also own the def tech sm450 and for 200 some dollars, it is a good speaker! Given the choice, I think the EMPtek is better!
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Speakers should be buy base on your personal preference . Some speakers are warm ,laid back , neutral and forward. Also what type of music you listen more.




I know that at that budget there isn't many options, but you should take that into consideration.

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The EMP E5Bi would be a good choice, also take a look at the HTD Level Three bookshelves.

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Sadly, Def Tech is under the impression that they can put any number that passes their fancy into their product specifications and people will believe them. While their reputation is notorious for inflating their numbers to the extreme, they do make pretty good speakers, so they are worth an audition.
Yes at those prices the SM's are fantastic speakers minus what is on paper, but whats on paper is not what you should purchase by. Trust your ears my friend.

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What center matches the def tech 450s?
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What center matches the def tech 450s?
The CLR2002, but it's very difficult to find and expensive if you do.

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There are several of the CLR 2002 on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...R2002&_sacat=0
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There are several of the CLR 2002 on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...R2002&_sacat=0
Good to know! I remember looking for one about 6 months ago when I considering that route and there were hardly any, and the only ones available were $500+

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All wonderful suggestions so quick, didn't realize there was such a variety at this price range worth considering. Do those def techs really measure that low? Seems a bit exaggerated for a 6.5 inch woofer..


Yes there are lots of options at that price. Even more if you went up to $400. But you want something loud that will fill a bigger room for parties. I'd suggest the HSU bookshelves. I've had them and they play clean and loud and sound great. But even better yet find something used on Craigslist like someone else said. Something like a vintage Polk Monitor 10 or 7. Incredible speakers that will destroy anything in your budget. Or way way over that imo.
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Yes there are lots of options at that price. Even more if you went up to $400. But you want something loud that will fill a bigger room for parties. I'd suggest the HSU bookshelves.
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The HSUs or the Ascend CBM-170 SEs. Some of the other speakers recommended so far have a bit less sensitivity, which means they would need more power to reach the same volume.

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The Definitive SM-450 was measured to have 89 db sensitivity - and they will play loud

HSU can/will play loud - however their measured sensitivity was around 86 db average

Some good options here - your choice and call

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I was able to get a CLR2002 center for under 300 dollars about 12 months ago. Kind of pricey, since I only paid 200 for the SM450s...but that is one really good center speaker! That system is droven by a Denon 1513 and whether it is power, my room or whatever, the Def Tech system just doesn't get to the volume that my EMP speakers can (and I have swapped AV rec from my theater and living room, so it is not the amplifier). As stated above, Def Tech tends to inflate some of the spect and I suspect these speakers aren't as sensitive as advertised! but still, they sound very good at low to moderately high volume

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The Definitive SM-450 was measured to have 89 db sensitivity - and they will play loud

HSU can/will play loud - however their measured sensitivity was around 86 db average

Some good options here - your choice and call
Was it only 86db? Ehh...I knew it was less than the 92db because it is a half space measurements.

For parties, I'd want to have more. I think the Definitive and the Ascends would be the way to go.

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Was it only 86db? Ehh...I knew it was less than the 92db because it is a half space measurements.

For parties, I'd want to have more. I think the Definitive and the Ascends would be the way to go.
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As stated above, Def Tech tends to inflate some of the spect and I suspect these speakers aren't as sensitive as advertised! but still, they sound very good at low to moderately high volume
They tend to be optimistic, stretch the bass specs - not the sensitivity specs

Page 10 measured by DB Keele - they are 89 db sensitive - only 1 db off stated specs - which is good
http://www.theaudiocritic.com/back_i...ritic_29_r.pdf

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Keep in mind that sensitivity rating was done in a shootout of bookshelf speakers, and all of them measured about 3 dB lower than their stated spec.
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Man you guys are awesome, thank you so much for all the suggestions and information. Learned a lot and haven't even had to ask any questions.

The HSU seem to be the favorite, although most expensive. I am leaning towards these.

Def tech would only be considered due to their low price. A stretch of stats like that is enough for me to want to pass on them. Doesn't make sense to me and is aggravating they think they can do that.

Always heard good things about emp teks. May have to look more into those as well.

I found a pair of klipsch vf-36 in Tennessee for 450. Anyone heard of these towers? Seems to be the only thing available that I would consider locally. I want to make a decision today and make a purchase by tonight. Decisions decisions.
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Def tech would only be considered due to their low price. A stretch of stats like that is enough for me to want to pass on them. Doesn't make sense to me and is aggravating they think they can do that.
They are not the only ones that do that - most of us do not pay much attention to the
marketing specs - It is the overall performance of the speaker that counts. It is one of
the better deals and sounding speakers on a tight budget.

A lot of speakers measured by a 3rd party show that specs do not tend to match - and
one of them is also Klipsch.

Also, receiver companies are famous for their marketing hype

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