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Converting Energy Take Classic 5.1 to a 7.1 Speaker System?

I currently have an Energy Take Classic 5.1 system set up to my Onkyo 7.2 receiver.

I'd like to add the additional two speakers. I've also considered another sub.

What's the best way of going about this? I've considered 3 new speakers for the front. I'd replace the Energy Take Classic center channel, take the front right and front left and put them in the rear right and rear left and then replace the front right and front left with something new.

I was thinking of the Polk CS10 and the TSi100. Would this combination work? Are there better ideas on how to effectively convert this to a 7.1.
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I've also considered the Pioneer SP-FS52-LR Floorstanding Speakers.

What are the specs that I need to look into when choosing a new front left/center/rear combination to match well with the Energy Take Classic bookshelf speakers/sub?
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Don't worry about matching the surrounds because about the only way to get a perfect timbre match is to use the same speaker make/model line. Just pick the best front three speakers you can.
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Don't worry about matching the surrounds because about the only way to get a perfect timbre match is to use the same speaker make/model line. Just pick the best front three speakers you can.
I read the FAQ #6 about surround sound. It states:

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it is important to keep all the front stage speakers matching for a good sound, but one can have somewhat different surround speakers without nearly as much penalty.
To make sure I'm correctly understanding, does this mean that the 4 channels in the back can all be different when the front 3 should be the same, or does this just mean it's okay for the same front 3 to be different from the same back 4?

Fortunately I'll be using all of the bookshelf speakers of the Energy Take Classic system for the side and rears so this shouldn't be an issue. I was curious if there are any qualities of speakers that I should look for to more effectively match the Take Classic series, or as you had originally said, just go with the best my budget can buy. I was thinking of the Pioneer Andrew Jones developed series, the SP-C22 for the center and then the floorstanding FS-52s for the left and right.

Thoughts?
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Optimum is for all speakers to timbre match. However, it's much, much more important for the center, left, and right to timbre match. I use different surrounds from my front three speakers.

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Optimum is for all speakers to timbre match. However, it's much, much more important for the center, left, and right to timbre match. I use different surrounds from my front three speakers.
Are there quantitative statistics that one could review before a purchase in order to attempt to match timbre between speakers of different makes/models for the rear and front?
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Are there quantitative statistics that one could review before a purchase in order to attempt to match timbre between speakers of different makes/models for the rear and front?
No.

Best bet is to get the best front three speakers you can for your money.
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If you buy different speaker brands across the front, getting a timbre match will be almost impossible and just dumb luck. You really want the tweeter in your center to be the same brand/model as the ones n your L/R and while that might happen, it also might not. Also, the cross over, cabinet, midrange driver, etc can affect timbre...

I had a system with a mismatch center for years and thought it sounded pretty good...until I bought the correct center. Big difference!
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No.

Best bet is to get the best front three speakers you can for your money.
Sorry to make you repeat yourself. I think I got it now. Buy the best I can

With that said, rather than creating a new thread, around a $300 budget, any suggestions on a front left/center/right combo?

- It will probably be a 45-45-10 split between Movie/Gaming Music
- Placement and aesthetics aren't of much importance as I should have quite a bit of flexibility in this regard. There is a chance however I may go bookshelf rather than floorstanding in the front.

I had these as apparently a well liked budget speaker system if I did choose to go floorstanding.

Pioneer SP-C22 Andrew Jones Designed Center Channel Speaker
Pioneer SP-FS52-LR Andrew Jones Designed Floor standing Loudspeaker

If not,

Polk Audio CS10 Center Channel Speaker
Polk Audio TSi100 Bookshelf Speakers

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Between those 2 , Definitely the pioneer speakers.
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The Pioneers would be my choice too

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well i was on a same boat as u were..i originally bought Energy take classic 5.1 system but felt that i needed to upgrade to 7.1. I ended up going for Infinity Primus P363 for fronts when they were on sale for 100 each..For center I have polk Tsx 150c which were on sale for 100 also..I kept the same subwoofer for now but will be upgrading soon as something come on sale..but for now i am keeping the subs..
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The Pioneers would be my choice too
Pioneers it is.
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Pioneers it is.
Id rather see you with Polk RTi6's with Polk CSi3 center
http://m.ebay.com/itm/390813524204?nav=SEARCH
http://m.ebay.com/itm/231180671021?nav=SEARCH

I am a fan of Polks and Pioneers are a bit to mellow

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Id rather see you with Polk RTi6's with Polk CSi3 center
http://m.ebay.com/itm/390813524204?nav=SEARCH
http://m.ebay.com/itm/231180671021?nav=SEARCH

I am a fan of Polks and Pioneers are a bit to mellow
You think the Polk bookshelf speakers would beat the Pioneer floor standing?

This also does exceed the originally proposed budget of $300.
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You think the Polk bookshelf speakers would beat the Pioneer floor standing?

This also does exceed the originally proposed budget of $300.
Personally I am a bigger fan of Polk RTi-Series than I am of the Pioneers.

As for $300 budget Pioneers are no longer on sale as I can see. So getting 2 towers and matching center channel puts you over $300
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