Originally Posted by veggav
Most of the speakers recommended on this thread are not available on my country.
I'm also trying to go Atmos on the cheap here.
I'm going for the Denon 4200 for atmos. How much power do I need for the 2 cealing speakers for atmos?
I know I can't afford the best speakers but some of those JBL spekaers are that bad?
Like the 6iW?
I'm also able to find the Kef ci160qs here, would that be just too bad or would work ok?
I will give you my suggestions. Of course the topic of this thread is to find the "Best
in ceiling speakers for Atmos", so I will be going out of topic, but since your goal is to find speakers that serve your atmos duties, here are some points to consider that may help you in the process:
1. The atmos speakers should be able to reproduce mid-range and some high frequency well. A 6.5 inch mid range speaker and below works best compared to the bigger ones, according to many speaker manufacturer in-house techs.
2. Depending on the height of your room, a circular concentric speaker module housing the tweeter over the mid range works best. Tweeters are directional, and you can easily have a sense of the source location when you hear the tweeter. In a lesser but still significant way, you will also feel the source location on the midrange. Now if the tweeters and mid range are rather separated like you showed in the JBL, you will hear the staggered layout of the mid range driver and tweeters. If your ceiling is low, this will be more pronounced, as this is little space left for the sound to disperse. So smaller round concentric speakers works best, and more often they are cheaper than the fancy, usually suboptimal layouts like MTM or MT.
3. Your atmos speakers should be timbre matched to your main speakers (this does not mean same speakers) as much as you can. Same manufacturer always help. Ask manufacturer helpline, if not certain on recommended timbre matched in-ceiling speakers. Why is this important? When George Clooney goes around you in 360 degrees in Gravity, you don't want him to sound too differently from speaker to speaker.
4. No way your atmos speakers are too taxed, they don't need super amplification, as their jobs are relegated to providing you the surround sounds most of the time. My personal observation from my previous 5.1.2 and now 7.2.4 setup, is that your rear surrounds are least taxed, more or less similar to your rear heights. The front heights are usually a bit more involved, but still don't need any major amplification powers.
5. Lower frequencies don't need to be played through atmos speakers. Come to think of it when we hear thunder, we hear the first set of high to mid frequency crackles with a directional vector (for lack of a better term) which tells us where in the sky has the thunder struck. This is followed by the deep rumble that has no direction and it seems to fill the entire surround (The best sub effect one can ever hear). This is also exactly where a good quality sub-woofer will take over give you the punch. Please don't forget that an atmos speaker with around a 6.5 inch driver will deliver a natural sound that we hear when people speak and birds tweet.
Hope this helps.