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B&W speaker help

I recieved a set of B&W 802 speakers and a B&W HTM center speaker.
I also have a pair of Polk Audio FXIA6.
and I have a powered sub.

I am setting up a media room that is 16' wide by 22' deep and 10' tall.
I missed an auction for some B&W 805 speakers to use a rear speakers. Any suggestions on a set of speakers I could use for rear speakers for under to $1,000 price range. Used is ok.
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You can get the B&W CM1 for $1000 if you want to stick with the same brand. I would just keep your eyes open for something used though, speakers at this level are likely taken care of, and you can save yourself some money. Check out www.audiogon.com and www.usaudiomart.com for some deals.

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Keep checking audiogon, craigslist, etc. for a used pair of 805's. You definitely want to stay within the 800 line rather than mix and match between lines.

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Could I use a pair of Dm602?
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Your surrounds don't need to match, so those would work fine. They are front ported so you could place them closer to the wall which is nice.

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I recieved a set of B&W 802 speakers and a B&W HTM center speaker.
I also have a pair of Polk Audio FXIA6.
and I have a powered sub.

I am setting up a media room that is 16' wide by 22' deep and 10' tall.
I missed an auction for some B&W 805 speakers to use a rear speakers. Any suggestions on a set of speakers I could use for rear speakers for under to $1,000 price range. Used is ok.
What exact model of the 802's and HTM do you have? There are so many variations of those they could range from current gen to almost 20 years old.

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What are the Polk's being used for, surrounds? If so then you have a 5.1 setup currently and want to move to 7.1 or are you looking to replace the Polks? If moving from 5.1 to 7.1 with you using Polks as surrounds then timbre matching is not of concern to you so my recommendation would be to just get whatever fits your fancy, style wise and budget. If you can find another pair of those Polks that would work. If looking to replace the Polks and timbre matching is important to you then going with B&W 805's would make sense. I can't see you getting 805 Diamonds for $1000 but it might be possible to come across a really good buy on the older models.


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Stick to the same brand and range if you can, but IMO rears and surrounds aren't nearly as important as the front stage, so it's okay to mix and match to save money. You probably won't even notice. It's like putting in super nice furnishings in your guest bedroom's bathroom, just not worth the money.
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Stick to the same brand and range if you can, but IMO rears and surrounds aren't nearly as important as the front stage, so it's okay to mix and match to save money. You probably won't even notice. It's like putting in super nice furnishings in your guest bedroom's bathroom, just not worth the money.
That's a great analogy!

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Sorry for now reply, busy few days...
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The Polk's will be my mid room speakers (mounted at the ceiling halfway from front to back)


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I think I will go with the Dm602 unless someone has any solid reason why not.
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There are a pair of B&W 685 on ebay for $380 vs the Dm602 for $500. I don't know much about B&M so not sure the difference or which one would suit my needs better.
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What version are the DM602s you are looking at? S2? S3? $500 seems kind of steep considering the age of these speakers. $380 for the 685s seems fair depending on condition and hours of use.

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These all look like the original DM602s which came out in 1996. Great speaker at the time but pretty old.

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I will do some looking on www.audiogon.com and www.usaudiomart.com (as suggested by Transmaniacon) and see what is there.
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The first link shows a dented tweeter. I would bid lower than $380 even though it wouldn't effect the sound too much especially in surround duty.

The second link is for 686s actually and they retailed for $480. These look to be in good shape but are rear ported. I'm not sure if this is a problem for you. A fair price but I'd probably take the 685s over these.

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Here are some CM1 speakers, any thoughts?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bowers-Wilki...item20eb48869c

There are also a set of new CM1 speakers for $900

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Just noticed the CM1 speakers are rear ported, is this even an option with putting them up against the back wall? Or do I need front ported?
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Just noticed the CM1 speakers are rear ported, is this even an option with putting them up against the back wall? Or do I need front ported?
I had cm-1 in my office on mopads.
Pulled them out so that the baffles were about 2' from the wall and they sounded pretty good 7' apart, 7' to my LP.
Really tough room (10x10x9) and had them situated on a diagonal
To get those spacings. Toe- in didn't change sound.
For optimal imaging, I'd suggest about 2' from the back of the speaker to wall and 2' to sides with a triangle of 6-8'.
They come with 2piece plugs that will help for close wall placement but you'll sacrifice some bass performance using them. Not an issue if using a sub- highly recommended btw
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The DM602 S2s are priced pretty high. I would be inclined to go with something a bit cheaper like the 685s if you can find a pair with intact tweeters.

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The DM602 S2s are priced pretty high. I would be inclined to go with something a bit cheaper like the 685s if you can find a pair with intact tweeters.
Yeah he could grab a brand new pair of the S2 version for well under his budget.

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I don't really have the room to move my rear speakers away from the back wall. Does this work with the rear ported speakers like the 685s?
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I don't really have the room to move my rear speakers away from the back wall. Does this work with the rear ported speakers like the 685s?
The 685s are front-ported. It's the 686s that are rear-ported

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Oops my bad, but same question, can rear ported speakers be put up in the corner as I intend to do?
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Oops my bad, but same question, can rear ported speakers be put up in the corner as I intend to do?
They can if you install the port plugs but for the best sound they really need some space. For surrounds it's not as critical but still a consideration.

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Found a pair of 602 S3 that are local to me so I could check them out before purchase. But they are the wrong color, would it be a big deal to paint the boxes black?

And is the price ok?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/B-W-602-S3-B...item4adb252de6
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Found a pair of 602 S3 that are local to me so I could check them out before purchase. But they are the wrong color, would it be a big deal to paint the boxes black?

And is the price ok?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/B-W-602-S3-B...item4adb252de6
Again, these cost $600-$650 12 years ago. A more reasonable price if they were in good shape would be $300-$400. If it were me, I don't think I would want to paint over the veneer but that's your call. Since they're local why not give them a listen and see what kind of shape they're in. Perhaps you could talk the owner down on price.

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