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post #1 of 16 Old 08-23-2014, 09:52 PM - Thread Starter
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Unhappy $750 - front ported, bookshelf 5.1?

Defeated, she won. Have to downsize the 5.0 system I have been running (onix x).

First, yes, I realize that guy was a terrible person. But, I didn't know it at the time I bought any of that stuff. I have a center channel, two bookshelf surrounds and two tower mains. All share 6.5 drivers I believe. They sound pretty good and can move some air. Now, I'm moving. The center channel won't fit on the mantle (far too deep, I have 8 inches to work with) and I'm not allowed to keep floor standers as mains if I want to keep my klipsch fortes in the vinyl-only stereo I have...I'm not giving those up. Worst part is, I doubt I can get any money out of the 5.0 setup due to the aforementioned jerk.

This means I'm in the market for a 5.1 setup and need to wall mount everything except the center channel. I have a pretty big room and I'm nervous about filling it. Most of the stuff in my range seems pretty small (def tech 600, energy take 5, klipsch quintet, etc.) or rear ported meaning the requisite wall mount isn't going to work well (Cambridge s30, Andrew jones pioneer). Anything will be driven by my onkyo 809.

Am I missing any options here? Not sure where else to look or if I should just pick a sacrifice on the porting or size and realize things can't be perfect with my budget and space constraints. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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NHT SuperZero. http://www.nhthifi.com/Bookshelf-spe...&category=3772

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Oops, looks like ported actually is a requirement. I should read more and type less...

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NHT SuperZero. http://www.nhthifi.com/Bookshelf-spe...&category=3772

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Oops, looks like ported actually is a requirement. I should read more and type less...
Thanks a bunch for the recommendation.

Sealed would be fine and the super zeros look great...but, they don't make a center channel in that range and the bookshelf would not fit under my tv due to its height.

I guess I could consider the absolute center channel with super zero surrounds but I would be worried about timbre marching as they use different drivers.
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Super Zero is a solid choice.

Maybe also take a look at the Ascend Acoustics HTM-200. $750 for 5, they are sealed and designed to be wall mounted. Above average sound quality for that kind of speaker in that price range. They will dig deeper than the Super Zero's and accommodate a standard crossover with the sub of 80hz.


Two other speaker lines that fit your situation (sealed or front ported and wall mountable) but are the next level up in price ...

KEF Q100 (x4) with Q200c center - $1150 at http://www.accessories4less.com. Q100's are front ported and wall mountable, sealed center speaker is 10.2" deep.

NHT Absolute Zero (x4) with Absolute Center - $1310 at http://www.nhthifi.com/Absolute-Zero...&category=3772. Sealed, wall mountable, also comes in white, less than 8" deep. They also make an Absolute Wall Speaker model - only 4" deep and the same price but no matching center.

The only other options that come to mind are satellite speakers ... but generally speaking I'd consider them a step down from any of the above.
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Super Zero is a solid choice.

Maybe also take a look at the Ascend Acoustics HTM-200. $750 for 5, they are sealed and designed to be wall mounted. Above average sound quality for that kind of speaker in that price range. They will dig deeper than the Super Zero's and accommodate a standard crossover with the sub of 80hz.


Two other speaker lines that fit your situation (sealed or front ported and wall mountable) but are the next level up in price ...

KEF Q100 (x4) with Q200c center - $1150 at http://www.accessories4less.com. Q100's are front ported and wall mountable, sealed center speaker is 10.2" deep.

NHT Absolute Zero (x4) with Absolute Center - $1310 at http://www.nhthifi.com/Absolute-Zero...&category=3772. Sealed, wall mountable, also comes in white, less than 8" deep. They also make an Absolute Wall Speaker model - only 4" deep and the same price but no matching center.

The only other options that come to mind are satellite speakers ... but generally speaking I'd consider them a step down from any of the above.
Perfect, exactly what I was looking for. Absolute zero looks good enough to stretch the price range a bit. Thanks for the recommendation. Next, I suppose I will start looking for a sub.
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Another option is HTD. The Level Three bookshelves are front ported and would do a better job in a big room. They also make a low-profile center speaker meant to be mounted under a TV, or fit perfectly on a mantle. I love NHT, but I think the HTD might be better if you are sitting a good distance away.

If you need a compact sub, the SVS SB-2000 is an excellent choice.

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With no indication of your room size the best any of us can do is speculate, but assuming it's not terribly large another potential option to consider would be the Wave Crest HVL-1.

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With no indication of your room size the best any of us can do is speculate, but assuming it's not terribly large another potential option to consider would be the Wave Crest HVL-1.
It is a pretty big room, 27x12x8.5. The sensitivity on the nhts is a bit worrisome, but my onkyo 809 is reasonably strong and I can always add more amplification later. The wave crest and htd centers are a little too deep, unfortunately.

Right now, looking like the absolute zeroes are still the best bet, hoping to find a used svs pb-2000 to pair them with.
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It is a pretty big room, 27x12x8.5. The sensitivity on the nhts is a bit worrisome, but my onkyo 809 is reasonably strong and I can always add more amplification later. The wave crest and htd centers are a little too deep, unfortunately.

Right now, looking like the absolute zeroes are still the best bet, hoping to find a used svs pb-2000 to pair them with.
Given your restriction on depth you should definitely consider the XTZ 93.21, which are only 7" deep. I own them myself, and for the money I think they're very nice speakers. For a limited time XTZ is offering 30% off and free shipping (promo code 93HTS30), making them even more attractive. With the discount a 5.0 system delivered to your door is less than $700. You'll be hard pressed to beat that deal.

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Given your restriction on depth you should definitely consider the XTZ 93.21, which are only 7" deep. I own them myself, and for the money I think they're very nice speakers. For a limited time XTZ is offering 30% off and free shipping (promo code 93HTS30), making them even more attractive. With the discount a 5.0 system delivered to your door is less than $700. You'll be hard pressed to beat that deal.
Can they easily be wall mounted? Love that the nht speakers have the threaded hole so I don't have to dig into the cabinet.

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Can they easily be wall mounted? Love that the nht speakers have the threaded hole so I don't have to dig into the cabinet.
It looks like they have a hanger on the back, the VideoSecu wall mounts are a popular and affordable option though.

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Can they easily be wall mounted? Love that the nht speakers have the threaded hole so I don't have to dig into the cabinet.
There's a picture showing the back of the speaker at that link I included, so you can see exactly what it is there.

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One last issue, folks...

Given my room size, could I get away with the svs pb-1000 or do I really need the 2000? What about the sealed hsu subs?

How finicky are rear ported subs on wall placement? I was hoping to throw the thing in a corner. Thea rythmik sub looks great, but not sure it would work in that placement.
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One last issue, folks...

Given my room size, could I get away with the svs pb-1000 or do I really need the 2000? What about the sealed hsu subs?

How finicky are rear ported subs on wall placement? I was hoping to throw the thing in a corner. Thea rythmik sub looks great, but not sure it would work in that placement.
PB-2000. I doubt you won't like the PB-1000, but you'll almost certainly be looking to upgrade within a year. Might be better to skip that step and go right to the finish line.

All the Rythmik would need is 6-8" for the port, not at all difficult to do with a corner placement.

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PB-2000. I doubt you won't like the PB-1000, but you'll almost certainly be looking to upgrade within a year. Might be better to skip that step and go right to the finish line.

All the Rythmik would need is 6-8" for the port, not at all difficult to do with a corner placement.
Thanks for all your responses, Jim.

Ordered the rythmik today, but then saw the svs outlet has the pb-12 nsd for $70 cheaper. Would the svs be significantly better given my needs? Should I try to cancel the rythmik?

At this point don't care about the price difference.
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Ordered the rythmik today, but then saw the svs outlet has the pb-12 nsd for $70 cheaper. Would the svs be significantly better given my needs? Should I try to cancel the rythmik?
They're comparable, neither will be significantly better then the other. I reviewed the LV12R though, so that one I have direct experience with. The SVS I haven't heard personally, but the comments posted about it are positive. You won't be disappointed with the Rythmik - for the money it can do an awful lot.

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