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Old 12-11-2014, 01:17 AM - Thread Starter
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Best Bang for your Buck Speakers?

I've owned my Logitech Z-2300 for several years, and I have been very satisfied with my system (computer speakers). Unfortunately, some friends of mine left the speakers on near maximum volume for about 8-9 hours straight and the audio has mild static in the background. I really loved these speakers, but I'm ready to move on.

Anyways, I'm looking to get louder speakers with similar audio quality (I'm not an audiophile, doesn't need to be perfect)- for a reasonable price ($200-300; just looking for my best bang for my buck). I've looked at a few shelf speaker systems, but I'm not sure if the sub woofers are very loud; I don't want anything shrill. The Z-2300 was a great value for about $100 when I bought it, but I don't know what my options are if I want something 500+ watts RMS.

I've been looking at this Samsung system: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-MX-H83...ustomerReviews

Any suggestions regarding whether or not this would be a better replacement? I don't think I could add a sub woofer to this particular system, any DIY alternatives? I'm open to any suggestions so please share your thoughts. I would be using these speakers specifically for music. Thanks in advance!
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You don't want to go with those boombox type systems, they are junk.

If you want a multi-media system, this Swan M50 would be my choice: http://www.chanemusiccinema.com/swan-multimedia/M50W

Alternatively, you could grab an inexpensive receiver and a pair of Micca MB42X, and then add in a Dayton SUB-800. This would be the best route in my opinion and be under $300. This will blow away any of the "computer speakers" out there.
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The aforementioned Swans, paired with a cheap AVR, would blow away a boom box style system. I'd recommend going to a site like accessories4less, pick out a budget AVR for $125-$150, and spend the rest on speakers. Don't let the fact of buying a 5.1 or 7.1 AVR for your needs throw you off. They work just fine for 2 channel music, and the economies of scale make them great bargains.
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Wave Crest HVL-1's...$188 + free shipping/pr. Then grab a Dayton Sub 1200 for $109, and you are set.
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fwiw, the infinity p163's for $59 each from amazon is a great price / performance deal
http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Primu...nfinity+primus

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Thanks for all the replies!

I was stubborn and I bought an LG system for about $160: http://www.lg.com/us/home-audio-vide...theater-system After playing a few songs, I couldn't stand this boombox anymore- the audio was HIDEOUS at low volume and the bass seemed to lack range. I couldn't get over the "muddy" sound and the Bluetooth audio was rather flat. (I don't need Bluetooth connectivity, just noticed that the audio was similar wired or wireless). I'll take another listen to these in the morning, but I'll probably be returning these in the next day or so.

Anyways, before I respond to all your replies I would like to elaborate my intention to upgrade my current setup. I'm looking for speakers that will be strictly used for music- specifically EDM/house/dupstep genres with some pop/rap. I do listen to other genres but I'd like to blast these for an outdoor cookout, or an indoor party to fill my house. I just don't want anything "shrill" which seems to be what most of the stereo shelf systems I've tested to be like at Best Buy.

Here are a few speakers I've been looking at recently:

http://store.sony.com/1800w-bluetoot...-Shelf-Systems - seem to be loud but shrill at higher volumes. The bass doesn't seem to have consistent range- some deep notes it will nail while others simply sound bland. It's 1800 watts do I'm sure it is "loud" enough, but if the audio is going to be shrill I can't justify a reason to spend $450 on it.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...kers/SP-PK21BS - I've read good reviews for these online but I'm worried that I will blow these out too if I have them on a high volume for too long. Is there a better bang for my buck setup that this?

http://www.cnet.com/products/energy-take-classic-5-1/ - I seem to trust anything CNet gives a 9 star+ rating for, which is why I bought my Logitech Z2300s when I did several years ago, so I'm considering these too. Thoughts?

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You don't want to go with those boombox type systems, they are junk.

If you want a multi-media system, this Swan M50 would be my choice: http://www.chanemusiccinema.com/swan-multimedia/M50W

Alternatively, you could grab an inexpensive receiver and a pair of Micca MB42X, and then add in a Dayton SUB-800. This would be the best route in my opinion and be under $300. This will blow away any of the "computer speakers" out there.
-The boombox LG I bought is junk- I figuered I'd give it a try since it was on sale for $160 but now I know better. The Swans look very nice, but are they better than the Z2300s? The Logitech has a 120 watt sub while this one is 75 watts, so I question whether or not I'll blow out the Swan. The Miccas look like a steal as well, and again the Dayton sub looks to be a bit less wattage than my current setup- if I could spend $400 would you suggest something else or an alternative I posted above?

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The aforementioned Swans, paired with a cheap AVR, would blow away a boom box style system. I'd recommend going to a site like accessories4less, pick out a budget AVR for $125-$150, and spend the rest on speakers. Don't let the fact of buying a 5.1 or 7.1 AVR for your needs throw you off. They work just fine for 2 channel music, and the economies of scale make them great bargains.
-The z2300's I have come with a 120 watt speaker that still seems to work well- could I plug in other Left/Right speakers into it with higher wattage? Not sure if it will work but if getting another AVR is the way to go then I can make that compromise.

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Wave Crest HVL-1's...$188 + free shipping/pr. Then grab a Dayton Sub 1200 for $109, and you are set.
-Again, I already have a 120 watt sub... would those wave crests plug into my z2300 sub? If so this might be the best bang for my buck... if not what would you suggest for $400 in total? Just a bigger Dayton sub? What's the total wattage of the setup you suggested? Thanks for the reply this was really helpful.

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fwiw, the infinity p163's for $59 each from amazon is a great price / performance deal
http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Primu...nfinity+primus
-They currently appear to be out of stock at $59, oh well. I'll keep searching.

Thanks again for all the help! I hopefully will find something I like by the end of this week.
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Really - forget those boombox/compact systems.

Receiver $130 -
http://www.accessories4less.com/make...eceiver/1.html

Others will suggest decent speakers but you can get 2 sets of these - $70/pair $140/ for 4

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS2...ioneer+bs22-lr

Then the Dayton SUB-1200 - $110 - maybe try the save10 code on check out to save $10?

http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-...oofer--300-629

Those Wave Crests are good too!

You can thank me/us when you hook this up.

Forget the "wattage" out of those boomboxes. Frankly, I don't know how these companies get away with those outright lies for all these years. I've got a high end amp with 60 real watts/channel that would play louder and longer than that "1800 watt" boombox which would destroy any ordinary decent home speakers before it burned out in a puff of smoke.
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I used these http://swanspeaker.com/products/prod...5&sid=0&pid=24 then gave them to my wife after I upgraded to a Focal system.
They were great and still are.
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IMHO, this system is very good for the price.
http://www.accessories4less.com/make...-system/1.html

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The Focal linked above [if you have the funds] would be nice

The Energy Take Classic tends to have a sinking lower treble,
they are not for me - however, you may like them
http://www.soundandvision.com/images...ergytake.3.jpg

Compact 5.1 systems for Motorhome

I would look into the Emotiva Airmotiv 5 speakers.
https://emotiva.com/products/powered...rs/airmotiv-5s

If I had to settle for a satellite/sub system under $400, then the
RBH/EMP system would be on my short list.
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Really - forget those boombox/compact systems.

Receiver $130 -
http://www.accessories4less.com/make...eceiver/1.html

Others will suggest decent speakers but you can get 2 sets of these - $70/pair $140/ for 4

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS2...ioneer+bs22-lr

Then the Dayton SUB-1200 - $110 - maybe try the save10 code on check out to save $10?

http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-...oofer--300-629
This is good advice, OP.

Even better deal here though:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9SIA0AJ1P03205
$60/pair for the Pioneer Andrew Jones.

Add the Dayton sub.

While the Energy Take Classic are good for movies, the Pioneers are better for 2 channel music. If you wanted to go 5.1, the Pioneer matching center channel is only $60.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882117404

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Anyways, before I respond to all your replies I would like to elaborate my intention to upgrade my current setup. I'm looking for speakers that will be strictly used for music- specifically EDM/house/dupstep genres with some pop/rap. I do listen to other genres but I'd like to blast these for an outdoor cookout, or an indoor party to fill my house. I just don't want anything "shrill" which seems to be what most of the stereo shelf systems I've tested to be like at Best Buy.
The bold part of this is why I suggested something like the Pioneers so even though the Focal suggestion above may sound nicer overall, I think for his uses, he'll need something more robust.
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As with the others, don't get hung up on wattage, it's virtually meaningless unless you really know exactly what you need. Even then it'll just be one number in a set of numbers.

I'll also point you to the Dayton subs, they will be better than the Logitech. The 1000 and 1200 will be a significant improvement in performance and will be an eye opener for the type of music you listed above (get the 1200).

Then for the rest of the budget build, I'll second the AVR and Pioneer BS22's (on sale) too.

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This is good advice, OP.

Even better deal here though:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9SIA0AJ1P03205
$60/pair for the Pioneer Andrew Jones.

Add the Dayton sub.

While the Energy Take Classic are good for movies, the Pioneers are better for 2 channel music. If you wanted to go 5.1, the Pioneer matching center channel is only $60.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882117404


NOTE- that link for the AJ speakers are for the previous generation ones... (BS21)... if you can wait for a sale the current-gen BS22s are available for $60/pair and are a significant upgrade.

Ditto on the center channel (Old CS21 vs new CS22)

(and if you want louder and can do towers, the current-gen FS52s go on sale as cheap as $60 each and have been repeatedly called the best speakers you can get under $500/pr by professional reviewers)
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Really - forget those boombox/compact systems.

Receiver $130 -
http://www.accessories4less.com/make...eceiver/1.html

Others will suggest decent speakers but you can get 2 sets of these - $70/pair $140/ for 4

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS2...ioneer+bs22-lr

Then the Dayton SUB-1200 - $110 - maybe try the save10 code on check out to save $10?

http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-...oofer--300-629

Those Wave Crests are good too!

You can thank me/us when you hook this up.

Forget the "wattage" out of those boomboxes. Frankly, I don't know how these companies get away with those outright lies for all these years. I've got a high end amp with 60 real watts/channel that would play louder and longer than that "1800 watt" boombox which would destroy any ordinary decent home speakers before it burned out in a puff of smoke.
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It is amazing that some gear quote over 150watts per channel for seven of them and weight around 23lb.
My 200watts power amp weight over 90lb and that,s without the
preamp.
To the OP, look like the other members offer a few good suggestion , unfortunately I cannot look them up since I am replying to this from my wife I pad in an hotel while She recover from surgery and have a real hard time to use it.
Look to me like the others a few good choice for your budget, so check them out and do not be fool about wattage spec, especially from boombox.

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