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Just purchased a pair of JBL 4722n speakers.

Hi everyone. I recently purchased a pair of JBL 4722n speakers and I have a few questions. First is do these speakers accept bare wire only? Or can I use banana connectors with them? Will 12 gauge wire fit?

Next is how do I wire them up to my amp? I believe there is wiring from the crossover box to the horn and lf section? And then a second pair of connectors for the amp?

I'm coming from a setup of Yorkville U215 and Yorkville U15 speakers. I love music as much as I love home cinema. I'm hoping these speakers will excel in both realms.

The two following reviews are what convinced me to purchase these speakers.
http://www.reddit.com/r/audiophile/comments/1zsyty/theres_no_replacement_for_displacement/

http://www.andrew-robinson-online.com/review-jbl-professional-3677-screen-channel-loudspeaker/

One review is by Notnyt who was adamant about these speakers ability to replay cinema dialogue and music accurately. Second review is of the JBL 3677. The reviewer also gave it high marks for music accuracy and cinema.

If I am satisfied with the performance of the 4722n pair, I will go on to purchase a 3677 for a center next month. I will use a Yamaha p7000s with this pair of speakers. Though I will also try a Behringer Nu4-6000 with them as well.

I know these speakers are super sensitive and can be powered by a receiver however I have a prepro in my system to eliminate all buzz issues from the use of rca cables. I will be using a pair of SI 24 subwoofers to carry the low end.

I'm really hoping I love these speakers because returning them will be a huge pain in the rear. Though I have full confidence in Notnyt's opinion so I have faith this will be a great purchase for me.

After years of 7.4 systems, I want to downsize and run as simple a system as possible. Less speakers, less amps, less crossovers, less wiring, less problems. I hope to run a 3.2 system that will knock my socks off.

Though I would be up to ordering a additional pair of JBL 3677's for rears if I like the front soundstage.

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I think you will like them. Give them a chance to break in as well.

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Any advice on how to connect them MK. Also is 12 gauge speaker wire okay?

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I had 10 gauge on all my JBL. I think they are bare wire but some had clips, some had the spring loaded post that you push down and it creates a hole. This type requires thinner gauge. As far as connecting them you connect the CD to the bass bin and then the amp to the crossover I believe.

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Got it. Thanks MK. Just to be safe, I ordered 12 gauge speaker wire from Monoprice.
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Got it. Thanks MK. Just to be safe, I ordered 12 gauge speaker wire from Monoprice.
I knew I had seen this question before (see post #7 in thread below)

OMG these JBL 4722's are HUGE. How should they be wired?
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I read the thread but still was a little confused on the connection process. I did not want to hijack that thread so I pm'ed the threadstarter with a question on how to connect these speakers, but he was unresponsive.

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These speakers are scheduled to be delivered tomorrow before 5pm. I will give my initial impressions of how they compare to my Yorkville U215s tomorrow night.

Though I must admit the Yorkvilles are sounding extremely good after re-running Audyssey XT in my condo last week. I also feel they sound very good with no eq but with +4db on the treble tone control.

I'm very interested to see what I may gain with the Jbl pro speakers. I'm intrigued with the concept of cinema speakers at home. If these don't work out, I will also be interested in Klipsch cinema line as well.
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Finally received the pair. Will unbox and get them setup tonight.
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Finally received the pair. Will unbox and get them setup tonight.

Nice, make sure you give them time to break in the woofer, out of the box it will seem they don't have any low end or full sound at all until those stiff woofers loosen up.

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Please, please, don't use a 3677 as a center. The components are far inferior to the 4677. I'd stay phantom given the choice.
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Please, please, don't use a 3677 as a center. The components are far inferior to the 4677. I'd stay phantom given the choice.
Thank you for the advice. Any opinions on rears? Do you think a 3778 could do justice alongside the 4772s in a 5 channel setup?
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Interested to hear your impressions vs the yorks
OK. Just finished assembling the HF and LF sections one hour ago. I now remember why I hate using bare speaker wire.I had a hell of a time getting 12 gauge speaker wire to fit into the phoenix connectors on the HF sections and the tiny bare wire connectors on the Yamaha p7000s.

Also,my wire stripper broke so I had to finish the job with my knife. Once connected I played a sample of old school R & B songs from my personal playlist. I chose tracks from the Isley brothers, Earth Wind & Fire, etc. Songs with smooth vocals and strong instrument sections in the background full of detail.

After over an hour of listening here are my initial thoughts.These speakers passed my test for music with flying colors. Very good high frequency extension and strong clarity in the high frequencies even at extremely low volume levels.

Midbass is to die for. MK stated the woofers will need time to break in before their low end potential is realized. But man oh man this is not my experience. Their low end is UBER strong straight out of the box. I've never purchased a speaker with bass this strong right out the box. Even my Cerwin Vega ClS-215 had wimpy low end out of the box and took time to break in.

These speaker's bass is smooth and deep. I tried various crossovers from 40hz to 80hz but these speakers sound right at home in full range mode without a crossover. Definitely don't need a sub with music with these.

Their sweetspot is pretty much my entire room! They sound excellent both on and off axis. Their clarity in the high frequencies is superior to the Yorkville U215s. However the gap is not night and day. Though I am hearing more detail in various instrument sections that I flat out was not hearing at all with the Yorkville U215s.

The HF section of the JBLs have a very open sound to them. I can hear each word with clarity at a few clicks of the remote. I can clearly hear dialogue at extremely low volume levels two rooms away. When I lay on the volume a bit it sounds like I am in a auditorium. Highs envelope the entire room.

Background details are concise and easily discernable between instrument sections. I'm, even picking up background noise from the studio from the time the tracks were recorded. The York's HF just seemed to taper off a bit too early. I had to boost the treble by +4db on my tone controls to get them to where all dialogue was intelligible.

Their midbass performance is very dynamic. The Yorks are super close in this category however the JBLs win due to their deeper extension.

Where these speakers run away from the Yorks is room coverage. The Yorks have a fairly narrow sweet spot and suffered from poor off axis performance in my opinion. The JBL speakers have an ultra wide soundstage. Music sounds great no matter where I am positioned in the main room or in the entire condo for that matter. Off axis sounds every bit as great as when sitting in the middle of the JBLs.

These speakers are definitely more sensitive than the Yorks and sound great at all volume levels. I'm very happy with this purchase and I consider it a worthwhile upgrade from the Yorkville U215s.

Though I still consider the Yorkville U215s very good speakers which are solid performers in both HT and music realms.

I also had one last shock of the night. While moving around the furniture in my living room, I decided to go ahead and try my Yorkville U15 as a center with the two JBL 4722n as mains.

I must admit the three sound great together. Which is a testament to the Yorkville horn which can still hang with these speakers.

The other guests in my condo also commented on how good the trio sounded together. So that takes care of my center issue.
Thank you to AVS because I never would have thought to try this type of speaker in my home if not for the informative members here who think outside of the box and are not afraid to try something different.

Back to critical listening now. I am thoroughly enjoying these speaker's accuracy with music in Onkyo pure audio mode. Best purchase in years!
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I also wanted to add that these speakers were much smaller than I thought they would be. Anyone coming from a background using PA speakers might find these speakers underwhelming in a good way when it comes to their size. They are short and wide. They do not overpower my living room at all in my opinion.
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Does anyone know if there is a possible upgrade path for these speakers? Just want to know what my future options might be with these speakers. I'm loving the sound they are putting out now but I thought I saw some other people online were using different horns with the 4722N LF section.

So my question is are there any other larger horns with a built in passive crossover which I could use with the 4722N LF? I'd also be interested in any 3 way horns with a built in passive crossover network which can be used with the 4722N LF.
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I told everyone thy sound enormous with awesome mid bass! Mine required 5 WOTW reference level pod emerge demos to loosen up. I had the 3622 though.
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Does anyone know if there is a possible upgrade path for these speakers? Just want to know what my future options might be with these speakers. I'm loving the sound they are putting out now but I thought I saw some other people online were using different horns with the 4722N LF section.

So my question is are there any other larger horns with a built in passive crossover which I could use with the 4722N LF? I'd also be interested in any 3 way horns with a built in passive crossover network which can be used with the 4722N LF.
Not a JBL pro product expert but they do make 3 way and 2 way screen arrays (not sure exactly what horns each model uses):

3 way screen arrays:
http://www.jblpro.com/www/products/c...y#.VQsV-o7F_QI

2 way screen array (including the 4722n):
http://www.jblpro.com/www/products/c...y#.VQsWNY7F_QI
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Not a JBL pro product expert but they do make 3 way and 2 way screen arrays (not sure exactly what horns each model uses):

3 way screen arrays:
http://www.jblpro.com/www/products/c...y#.VQsV-o7F_QI

2 way screen array (including the 4722n):
http://www.jblpro.com/www/products/c...y#.VQsWNY7F_QI
I did some extensive reading on the JBL website yesterday. The 5732 looks awesome. The 5742 looks like the be all, end all of speakers with its massive dual ported 18s for it's LF section. I can only imagine the dynamics and clarity that speaker is capable of!

However all of the 3 way speakers I've seen on their website are triamp or biamp only. I've had a biamped setup before and it sounded great. But it added too much complexity to my setup. Don't want to go that route again.

The only three way speaker I saw with a passive switch was the 3730. But I was worried it might use lesser grade components than the 4722? Is it lower on the totem pole in the JBL Cinema Pro lineup than the 4722?

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Ok thanks MK. I saw the HF extension is 18khz vs. 20khz with the 4722N. It also appears the LF drivers are different and I'm guessing the compression driver used is different as well.

You were definitely spot on with the IMMENSE midbass these speakers put out. I feel like im in a planetarium. The midbass is enveloping, violent, and makes my floors shake while loathing around. I know my movie watching is going to go to another level with these bad boys!
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Oh yeah! It has been a while since I listened to JBL pro an now I have it again I am hooked! I am thinking the better the drivers the better they are for music as all are great for HT.
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Oh yeah! It has been a while since I listened to JBL pro an now I have it again I am hooked! I am thinking the better the drivers the better they are for music as all are great for HT.
Yes sir I definitely agree. I've owned numerous setups like yourself which have ran the gambit from Martin Logan, Paradigm, Klipsch, Deftech, Cerwin Vega, Yorkville, etc.

These speakers give up nothing to any of the aforementioned brands with music and they stand in a league of their own in terms of sheer dynamics with HT. I finally found a set of speakers and subs which excel both with movies and music.

This has been almost a decade long journey for me which has come to a climax. I'm so greatful to AVS because this has been a long time coming for a guy as picky as me with borderline obsessive compulsive disorder.

I will obsess over minor speaker flaws(especially with music) until I force myself into moving to a new setup. I feel no such feeling with these speakers and subs. They both sounded fantastic right out of the box with no break in.

I've never experienced that with any other pair of speakers or subs I've owned in the past.
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Yes sir I definitely agree. I've owned numerous setups like yourself which have ran the gambit from Martin Logan, Paradigm, Klipsch, Deftech, Cerwin Vega, Yorkville, etc.

These speakers give up nothing to any of the aforementioned brands with music and they stand in a league of their own in terms of sheer dynamics with HT. I finally found a set of speakers and subs which excel both with movies and music.

This has been almost a decade long journey for me which has come to a climax. I'm so greatful to AVS because this has been a long time coming for a guy as picky as me with borderline obsessive compulsive disorder.
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I will obsess over minor speaker flaws(especially with music) until I force myself into moving to a new setup. I feel no such feeling with these speakers and subs. They both sounded fantastic right out of the box with no break in..
Active bi-amping is in your future. No additional complexity because the Crown amps have presets for the JBL cinema speakers. The next step up from that would be something with a Be diaphragm; JBL, Radian or TAD. There always seem to be JBL 2435's on eBay :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JBL-PRO-2435...item5b0e9663ef
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Active bi-amping is in your future. No additional complexity because the Crown amps have presets for the JBL cinema speakers. The next step up from that would be something with a Be diaphragm; JBL, Radian or TAD. There always seem to be JBL 2435's on eBay :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JBL-PRO-2435...item5b0e9663ef
That's what I was going to mention.
I'm sure you've seen the graph Tux put up in my thread comparing the Be to the titanium diaphragm.

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