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Best speakers for rock in the $600-$800 range

Thinking about replacing MMG speakers that are great for acoustic and live music but not so great for rock music. Are there any recommendations in the $600-$800 price range for tower speakers. I prefer tower over bookshelves on stands due to having a large dog and an autistic child that likes to knock things over. I already have a SVS SB1000 sub. The room is approximately 15x17 with a high ceiling and open to the foyer.

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Thinking about replacing MMG speakers that are great for acoustic and live music but not so great for rock music. Are there any recommendations in the $600-$800 price range for tower speakers. I prefer tower over bookshelves on stands due to having a large dog and an autistic child that likes to knock things over. I already have a SVS SB1000 sub. The room is approximately 15x17 with a high ceiling and open to the foyer.

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I would research these three options for your budget:
http://www.musicdirect.com/p-15494-w...eakers-pr.aspx

These:
http://www.klipsch.com/products/refe...eakers#rp-260f

These:
https://www.kefdirect.com/speakers/h...udspeaker.html

There are more options as you step in price like Chane, SVS Prime, JBL Studio series etc.
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I am partial to these. Well balanced and very neutral speakers.

They will rock hard @
Frequency Response:34 Hz - 30 KHz
Sensitivity (1W@1M): 90dB
Nominal Impedance (Ohms): 8
Power Handling R.M.S (W):150

Price is higher than budget but the dealers are usually able to play with the pricing if you ask.

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Take a look at the RBH R55Ti as well: http://emptek.com/r55ti.php
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Take a look at the RBH R55Ti as well: http://emptek.com/r55ti.php
With a sub the EMP is an excellent option and if B stock is okay, you can get these for 564.00/pr, shipped in the cont USA. Very good clarity and fairly neutral speaker.
http://emptek.com/bs1871818660RR.php
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Thinking about replacing MMG speakers that are great for acoustic and live music but not so great for rock music. Are there any recommendations in the $600-$800 price range for tower speakers. I prefer tower over bookshelves on stands due to having a large dog and an autistic child that likes to knock things over. I already have a SVS SB1000 sub. The room is approximately 15x17 with a high ceiling and open to the foyer.

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Thinking about replacing MMG speakers that are great for acoustic and live music but not so great for rock music. Are there any recommendations in the $600-$800 price range for tower speakers. I prefer tower over bookshelves on stands due to having a large dog and an autistic child that likes to knock things over. I already have a SVS SB1000 sub. The room is approximately 15x17 with a high ceiling and open to the foyer.

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I’m a bit surprised that you didn’t find the MMGs very good for rock music. While I only heard them in passing (I was auditioning the 1.7’s and 3.6’s at the time), it may be a matter of how much power you are giving them and how far away from the wall they are placed. They are not sensitive speakers. Be that as it may, the speakers noted by the members here are all worth a solid look. Good luck.
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Thanks for all the recommendations! Looks like I have a lot to research. Nice to get so many different options/opinions. Just curious, are the Elac Debut F5's not in the same league as all the ones that have been brought up so far?

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What are you powering said speakers with? How far back are you sitting? How loud do you listen? Concern with the Elac would be the sensitivity it is 83db @1w/1m.
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I’m a bit surprised that you didn’t find the MMGs very good for rock music. While I only heard them in passing (I was auditioning the 1.7’s and 3.6’s at the time), it may be a matter of how much power you are giving them and how far away from the wall they are placed. They are not sensitive speakers. Be that as it may, the speakers noted by the members here are all worth a solid look. Good luck.
I have an Emotiva UPA200 driving them and I've moved them close to 3ft away from the wall. Don't get me wrong for certain genres and for live concerts they sound amazing but I feel like I'm missing some dynamics with them for rock music.

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^ Haven't auditioned the ELAC towers (only their B5 bookshelf speakers), but I'd expect them to be very good. I do own the RBH/EMP Tek R55Ti's. You can read my review on Amazon.

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What are you powering said speakers with? How far back are you sitting? How loud do you listen? Concern with the Elac would be the sensitivity it is 83db @1w/1m.
I have an Emotiva UPA200. I sit about 11-13 ft away and I wouldn't say I listen at excessive volume.

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I have an Emotiva UPA200 driving them and I've moved them close to 3ft away from the wall. Don't get me wrong for certain genres and for live concerts they sound amazing but I feel like I'm missing some dynamics with them for rock music.
Your setup and power are fine. Much of the dynamics come from a boost in the lower midrange and upper bass frequencies, also a hot top end (sort of a smile EQ). Maggies are not for everyone and I'm sure you will find several speakers more to your liking with Rock music.

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I have an Emotiva UPA200. I sit about 11-13 ft away and I wouldn't say I listen at excessive volume.
Then you should be fine. I have not heard the Elac speakers to comment on how they sound with rock music but as long as they don't start falling apart at louder levels they may fit the bill. Ideally trying to demo a few of these speakers in your home would be the way to go. Those Emptek/RBH speakers are a great recommendation at this price point. I have owned a number of RBH speakers over the years and they are great with all types of music.
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These - Post Audio DM 16's... lol

They have rocked everything that I've thrown at them through my Pioneer Elite SC-61 (125WPC) - even (especially) One by Metallica. They completely filled a 3-car garage Of course, they are on the order of 30-years-old, and I found them on kijiji for about $75CAD, so they might not be exactly what you're looking for. You can find some incredible speakers through kijiji and craigslist for amazing prices; all you need is patience.
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With a sub the EMP is an excellent option and if B stock is okay, you can get these for 564.00/pr, shipped in the cont USA. Very good clarity and fairly neutral speaker.
http://emptek.com/bs1871818660RR.php
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Thinking about replacing MMG speakers that are great for acoustic and live music but not so great for rock music. Are there any recommendations in the $600-$800 price range for tower speakers. I prefer tower over bookshelves on stands due to having a large dog and an autistic child that likes to knock things over. I already have a SVS SB1000 sub. The room is approximately 15x17 with a high ceiling and open to the foyer.

Any recommendations?

Another vote for the http://emptek.com/r55ti.php.
Never heard them, but many great review for the price.
The other suggestion's were also nice.


Just a suggestion.
As you quote "The room is approximately 15x17 with a high ceiling and open to the foyer."
Your room is small, but your sub will see all open area!
When and if you can afford-it, the next step would be to get one more/or a bigger sub.


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Thanks for all the recommendations! Looks like I have a lot to research. Nice to get so many different options/opinions. Just curious, are the Elac Debut F5's not in the same league as all the ones that have been brought up so far?

Research is your best friend
Most of us buy speakers for a long time, so a month or two of searching for what you like, will pay out in the long run.


Good luck and come back with questions or impression to feed the pool for others.


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Are you sure the problem is with your maggies and not the sub? Since acoustic sounds good, I'm guessing the high notes are fine. You're probably lacking in the low end. You have a single sealed sub in a big open room. Maybe your money may be better spent on a second sub.
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Another vote for the http://emptek.com/r55ti.php.
Never heard them, but many great review for the price.
The other suggestion's were also nice.


Just a suggestion.
As you quote "The room is approximately 15x17 with a high ceiling and open to the foyer."
Your room is small, but your sub will see all open area!
When and if you can afford-it, the next step would be to get one more/or a bigger sub.


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Hadn't considered that. I don't even know if I can connect one more sub to my Emotiva USP 1. I'll have to take a look.

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Hadn't considered that. I don't even know if I can connect one more sub to my Emotiva USP 1. I'll have to take a look.
You can add an additional sub with a RCA Y-cable. Most receivers that have the X.2 label just have a built-in internal Y-splitter. Some of the high end receivers like the Denon X4200 have actual independent stereo sub channels.

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Are you sure the problem is with your maggies and not the sub? Since acoustic sounds good, I'm guessing the high notes are fine. You're probably lacking in the low end. You have a single sealed sub in a big open room. Maybe your money may be better spent on a second sub.
Low end doesn't seem to be that lacking. I'm starting to think integration of the sub with my speakers may be a factor. I do have enery rc-70 speakers in another room thats used more for watching tv but rock does sound better to me on these as well as on my andrew jones setup in the basement. I was just hoping for a superior 2 channel listening experience in the room with my MMG's so that when my family is watching tv I can just listen to music in another room. I do have AVR's with room correction in these other rooms but no room correction on the emotiva (could be another factor). Just thinking out loud at this point.

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You can add an additional sub with a RCA Y-cable. Most receivers that have the X.2 label just have a built-in internal Y-splitter. Some of the high end receivers like the Denon X4200 have actual independent stereo sub channels.
Interesting work around. Adding another sub I'm sure can't hurt.

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Interesting work around. Adding another sub I'm sure can't hurt.
Placement is half the battle with subs. Have you done the sub-crawl method to determine the best location? YouTube has some good guides on it, and you may find a different location that greatly affects the bass compared to how it is currently.

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Placement is half the battle with subs. Have you done the sub-crawl method to determine the best location? YouTube has some good guides on it, and you may find a different location that greatly affects the bass compared to how it is currently.
Will take a look on youtube. Thanks.

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Hadn't considered that. I don't even know if I can connect one more sub to my Emotiva USP 1. I'll have to take a look.

According to the picture, it has only one input
https://www.google.ca/search?q=Emoti..._TdCXFkD1DM%3A

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You can add an additional sub with a RCA Y-cable. Most receivers that have the X.2 label just have a built-in internal Y-splitter. Some of the high end receivers like the Denon X4200 have actual independent stereo sub channels.

Like this one
https://www.google.ca/search?q=y+spl...Z_7UDdp8yBM%3A
Many prices and quality level, from many vendors, depending on how much you want to spend
Or something like this if you want to go XLR
http://www.amazon.com/XLR-M-XLR-F-Y-.../dp/B0047YYT9S


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