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Affordable Accuracy Monitors BR-1 vs NHT Superone 2.1

Im looking at a 2.0 setup and not planning on a sub because of my odd shaped room i dont have a good place for one and having a lack of bass scares me a bit. These will be used for music only and im probably going to be driving them off of a 50-55 wpc stereo amp (smsl sa-50, audiosource amp100vs). The music im buying these for is mostly pop, opera, classic rock, country and older music. I really want something that does female vocals good since im a fan of jackie evancho i want to hear her hit the notes. Which speaker would be better for this and would 50-55 wpc be enough to drive them in a average size bedroom.
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https://www.nhthifi.com/products/106...r-series#specs
http://philharmonicaudio.com/aa.html

Some music im wanting these for

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Without hesitation, I suggest the Chane A1.4. The XBL2 drivers are nothing short of amazing for bass. And the planar (leaf) tweeters will bring about your singers voice like no other can.

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Without hesitation, I suggest the Chane A1.4. The XBL2 drivers are nothing short of amazing for bass. And the planar (leaf) tweeters will bring about your singers voice like no other can.

https://www.chanemusiccinema.com/lou...dspeakers/A1.4
interesting speaker but there doesnt seem to be much reviews on them. i dont need a ton of bass i just want good decent accurate bass.
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interesting speaker but there doesnt seem to be much reviews on them. i dont need a ton of bass i just want good decent accurate bass.
You want the Chanes then.
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If you want respectable bass extension, consider speakers with 6.5" drivers.
Wharfedale diamond 225
Kef Q300
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If you want respectable bass extension, consider speakers with 6.5" drivers.
Wharfedale diamond 225
Kef Q300
The above referenced chane's
Emotiva Airmotiv B1
i want bass but the vocals are more important to me. also remember im only going to be using a cheap 50 wpc amp. im on a pretty tight budget $300 is the most i can do on speakers.
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i want bass but the vocals are more important to me. also remember im only going to be using a cheap 50 wpc amp. im on a pretty tight budget $300 is the most i can do on speakers.
For $300 with decent bass, the Airmotiv B1 would be pretty decent. The make pretty decent amps and subs as well.
https://emotiva.com/products/speakers/airmotiv-b1

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For $300 with decent bass, the Airmotiv B1 would be pretty decent. The make pretty decent amps and subs as well.
https://emotiva.com/products/speakers/airmotiv-b1
the b1's look nice. i wonder if 50wpc will drive them. i dont even have an amp yet i was thinking about just buying a lepy 2020 to hold me over till i get a decent one.

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i want bass but the vocals are more important to me. also remember im only going to be using a cheap 50 wpc amp. im on a pretty tight budget $300 is the most i can do on speakers.
If you can provide 12-18" of rear clearance, the Wharfedale 10.1 is going for a song right now:
https://www.musicdirect.com/speakers...ers-black-demo
Google the reviews.

If you prefer a more neutral presentation, the AA monitors would be a solid choice.
The Wharfedale 220s are slightly warm and being downported not rearported, would require very little rear clearance.
The 10.1 are a little bit warmer with a little bit more mid-bass.

Another good speaker to consider in this price range would be the Q Acoustics 3020, but it doesn't have the mid-bass of the AAs or the Wharfedales.

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Im looking at a 2.0 setup and not planning on a sub because of my odd shaped room i dont have a good place for one and having a lack of bass scares me a bit. These will be used for music only and im probably going to be driving them off of a 50-55 wpc stereo amp (smsl sa-50, audiosource amp100vs). The music im buying these for is mostly pop, opera, classic rock, country and older music. I really want something that does female vocals good since im a fan of jackie evancho i want to hear her hit the notes. Which speaker would be better for this and would 50-55 wpc be enough to drive them in a average size bedroom.
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https://www.nhthifi.com/products/106...r-series#specs
http://philharmonicaudio.com/aa.html
Both can work -- the AA and NHT can handle your music just fine/nicely -- The AA will have more bass and should be a little more linear in the midrange. You will be hit with many options -- however your 2 choices are good and will hold their own and handle your music preference and work with your amp.

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the b1's look nice. i wonder if 50wpc will drive them. i dont even have an amp yet i was thinking about just buying a lepy 2020 to hold me over till i get a decent one.
A 50wpc amp will easily drive any speaker mentioned in this thread. A lepy would drive your speakers as long as you don't crank the volume too much. A sub, even a small inexpensive one would really go a long way and open up some additional options for speaker selection.

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If you can provide 12-18" of rear clearance, the Wharfedale 10.1 is going for a song right now:
https://www.musicdirect.com/speakers...ers-black-demo
Google the reviews.

If you prefer a more neutral presentation, the AA monitors would be a solid choice.
The Wharfedale 220s are slightly warm and being downported not rearported, would require very little rear clearance.
The 10.1 are a little bit warmer with a little bit more mid-bass.

Another good speaker to consider in this price range would be the Q Acoustics 3020, but it doesn't have the mid-bass of the AAs or the Wharfedales.
the wharfedales are really nice but they're demo units i have a hard time trusting used things especially for more than half my budget. lol
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i want bass but the vocals are more important to me. also remember im only going to be using a cheap 50 wpc amp. im on a pretty tight budget $300 is the most i can do on speakers.
Definitely the AA Monitors as the NHTs don't have any bass extension to speak of while the AAs do.

You aren't going to do better for the money IMHO.
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the wharfedales are really nice but they're demo units i have a hard time trusting used things especially for more than half my budget. lol
I wouldn't be too concerned with that. They come with full warranty which wouldn't be the case if they were "b" stock. Those are fantastic speakers and you'd be hard pressed to find something better at that price. You can always return them, but I suspect they're in great condition.

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the wharfedales are really nice but they're demo units i have a hard time trusting used things especially for more than half my budget. lol
They're most likely not---I bought a pair of 10.1 "demo" from MD about 2 years ago for $250 and I would swear they were brand new: the packaging was absolutely pristine, the speakers didn't have a single blemish or scratch, and they still needed a full 20-30 hours of break-in.

In this industry, due to contractual stipulations with the manufacturers a lot of resellers (and internet-direct manufacturers) will present brand new merchandise as "b-stock," "refurbished," or "demo" whenever they need to clear out excess inventory. It's how they maintain the brand's image and perceived market value.
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btw, here are the "non-demo" 10.1 if you want to pay an extra $60...it's your money after all:
https://www.musicdirect.com/speakers...lf-speakers-pr

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btw, here are the "non-demo" 10.1 if you want to pay an extra $60...it's your money after all:
https://www.musicdirect.com/speakers...lf-speakers-pr
you're probably right and sorry i wasnt trying to laugh off your suggestion i just type the "lol" alot out of habit. im really considering the wharfedale for $190 and it having free shipping will leave me some cash for a better amp.
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Without hesitation, I suggest the Chane A1.4. The XBL2 drivers are nothing short of amazing for bass. And the planar (leaf) tweeters will bring about your singers voice like no other can.

https://www.chanemusiccinema.com/lou...dspeakers/A1.4
I just tested a bunch of speakers--

Squirrel has his say....he knows his crap

But you want BASS= JBL 230s $299 best I tested, then HTD Level 3s, Beautiful speakers with bass, but JBL gets lower

And you want Female vocals?= You rarely can have great bass and superior female vocals- But then like Squirrel said- Chane's 1.4, but even better Chane's 2.4 best for female vocals, no doubt in my mind with A2.4s,
They are the only one's I can recommed for female voices--heads and shoulder above rest for simply female voices

So do you want more bass or speakers that hit highs and female voices better ...I laid out a lil game plan
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Im looking at a 2.0 setup and not planning on a sub because of my odd shaped room i dont have a good place for one and having a lack of bass scares me a bit. These will be used for music only and im probably going to be driving them off of a 50-55 wpc stereo amp (smsl sa-50, audiosource amp100vs).
Bass, mids, female voices and new in stock - Cambridge SX-50
http://www.accessories4less.com/make...ut-pair/1.html

Yamaha receiver
http://www.accessories4less.com/make...eceiver/1.html

This meets your budget
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why is this so hard lol so many speakers! i think im set on the diamond 10.1
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If you're located near a larger city, Craigslist might have some good deals for you on the amp. I picked up a Marantz SR5400 for a friend of mine a few months ago for just $100, quality power for a fraction of new retail pricing. Sometimes you can find vintage NAD receivers in that ballpark too.
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If you're located near a larger city, Craigslist might have some good deals for you on the amp. I picked up a Marantz SR5400 for a friend of mine a few months ago for just $100, quality power for a fraction of new retail pricing. Sometimes you can find vintage NAD receivers in that ballpark too.
i dont know anything about what receivers i should be looking for im pretty new to the speaker world. what are some good brands or models that i should watch out for.
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i dont know anything about what receivers i should be looking for im pretty new to the speaker world. what are some good brands or models that i should watch out for.
For $99 this Yamaha is still a good option
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would that yamaha be better than the onkyo 8020?
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would that yamaha be better than the onkyo 8020?
Neither is a loser -- I tend to prefer the Onkyo line

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i dont know anything about what receivers i should be looking for im pretty new to the speaker world. what are some good brands or models that i should watch out for.
Marantz, NAD, Rotel, Parasound, Harman Kardon, Pioneer, Sony ES, Denon, Yamaha, Integra...it's just the random luck of the draw as to what's available when, in your geographical area. Which city are you in or close to?

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Not really, but this one would has more power which would give you more head room and is still cheaper than the Onkyo.
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If you can go up to $160 shipped, I'd consider this Integra for its future expandability:
http://www.accessories4less.com/make...r/1.html#!more
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If you can go up to $160 shipped, I'd consider this Integra for its future expandability:
http://www.accessories4less.com/make...r/1.html#!more
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