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Subwoofer recommendations? $350 budget

I’m currently running a 5.0 setup with a Yamaha A1060 receiver., a pair of JBL Arena B17’s with the matching C25 Center, and a pair fluance bipolar surrounds.

I’m looking for a good sub to blend well. My use is about 80/20 HT to Music ratio. My budget is around $350.

Edit. Room size is around 18x20


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BasX10 is $300. BasX12 is $400. If a larger room, you may wish to splurge for the extra $50. If a small room, the 10"er may be fine.
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basx10 if your budget is strict... if you can blow $50 + tax get the 12".... i have the 8 .. it's great..
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The basx subs are also good. ?
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Dmn. I put a laugh face and it comes out a question mark. Anyway, yes, I 3rd or 4th the suggestion of basx.
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$400 is kind of the magic number for subs, because below that there aren't many that get much love here at AVS. The Emotivas are the exception. (I have the BasX S8 for my 2.1 music setup, but it's a small room. Detailed review coming, err, soon-ish.)

Anyway, once you hit $400, in addition to the Emotiva BasX S12, you also the the HSU VTF-1.3 and the RSL Speedwoofer 10S. Unlike the Emotiva these are both front-ported, so they might be easier to place depending on your situation.
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350-400 bucks will get you a DIY 18 inch sub and a amp..........biggest bang possible for the cash, but it requires a little assembly.


That's a big room to fill with bass, especially for movies.

I will sum up my one year journey into bass..........single HTIB sub 6.5 incher...then 4, 6.5 inchers, then a 10 inch sub, then a 12 inch sub, then 4, 12 inch subs and now a 18 inch sub,.............skip the middle stuff and just go big, it is cheaper and gets you to the end of the road faster.


Getting too small of sub forces you to upgrade....getting too much sub makes you happy......
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350-400 bucks will get you a DIY 18 inch sub and a amp..........biggest bang possible for the cash, but it requires a little assembly.


That's a big room to fill with bass, especially for movies.

I will sum up my one year journey into bass..........single HTIB sub 6.5 incher...then 4, 6.5 inchers, then a 10 inch sub, then a 12 inch sub, then 4, 12 inch subs and now a 18 inch sub,.............skip the middle stuff and just go big, it is cheaper and gets you to the end of the road faster.


Getting too small of sub forces you to upgrade....getting too much sub makes you happy......
Yup, if you go DIY, your small budget could turn from a curse to a blessing. Get a HT-18 subwoofer for $160, and an Nu100dsp amp for $200, plus a sheet of MDF, you'll have an 18" sub with a 650 watt amp (with dynamic EQ!) that would be hard to touch with anything pre-made for less than $1000.
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The basx subs are also good. ?
yes very much great budget subs .. the 8" basx is a better sub than my 12" bic...and the bic doesn't suck for the money..
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$400 is kind of the magic number for subs, because below that there aren't many that get much love here at AVS. The Emotivas are the exception. (I have the BasX S8 for my 2.1 music setup, but it's a small room. Detailed review coming, err, soon-ish.)

Anyway, once you hit $400, in addition to the Emotiva BasX S12, you also the the HSU VTF-1.3 and the RSL Speedwoofer 10S. Unlike the Emotiva these are both front-ported, so they might be easier to place depending on your situation.
Sadly the RSL 10s didn't hit it's claimed 24hz extension for Sound and Vision despite its 350 watt amp and 10" driver; -3db was 30hz.

The BasX subs have proven to meet their claimed response; here's measurements for the BasX S12.

http://www.soundstagenetwork.com/ind...338&Itemid=349

http://www.soundstageaccess.com/inde...-s12-subwoofer
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Sadly the RSL 10s didn't hit it's claimed 24hz extension for Sound and Vision despite its 350 watt amp and 10" driver; -3db was 30hz.
Wow, that's no good. The Emotiva S8 lists -3dB as 28Hz, and that's half the price of the Speedwoofer.

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Wow, that's no good. The Emotiva S8 lists -3dB as 28Hz, and that's half the price of the Speedwoofer.
I'm not sure how RSL got so little performance out of that amp and driver.

No measurements yet on the BasX S8 but I get 28hz in my room with 8" Yamaha subs with 1/3 the amp power so it should be easily attainable as the BasX line, according to Bernt Butterworth, is very well engineered.

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No measurements yet on the BasX S8 but I get 28hz in my room with 8" Yamaha subs with 1/3 the amp power so it should be easily attainable as the BasX line, according to Bernt Butterworth, is very well engineered.
Yes, I recently acquired an S8 and am actually working on a review, though I'm not really set up for measurements. However, based on me throwing everything but the kitchen sink at it, I believe Emotiva's measurements as well.

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Yes, I recently acquired an S8 and am actually working on a review, though I'm not really set up for measurements. However, based on me throwing everything but the kitchen sink at it, I believe Emotiva's measurements as well.
Here's some test tones for you to use with an SPL meter or SPL app on your phone.

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http://www.audiocheck.net/testtones_...rsts20-200.php
Cool resource! Unfortunately, tone generation is not the issue.

I've been a scientist long enough to know not to trust measurements from someone who doesn't really know what they're doing, and that definitely includes me in this case. I can run the same file twice measuring with my phone and get results that differ by 4-5 dB. I know I wouldn't trust measurements that noisy, so I certainly wouldn't recommend anyone else trust my measurements, either. (I have one of the old analog Radio Shack SPL meters, too, which is much more consistent, but it only has A and C weighting, so kind of a mess for measuring a sub.)

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Cool resource! Unfortunately, tone generation is not the issue.

I've been a scientist long enough to know not to trust measurements from someone who doesn't really know what they're doing, and that definitely includes me in this case. I can run the same file twice measuring with my phone and get results that differ by 4-5 dB. I know I wouldn't trust measurements that noisy, so I certainly wouldn't recommend anyone else trust my measurements, either. (I have one of the old analog Radio Shack SPL meters, too, which is much more consistent, but it only has A and C weighting, so kind of a mess for measuring a sub.)
Well, you should be able to tell by ear where extension really drops off.

With my little 8" Yamahas it was pretty much a cliff after 28hz.

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Well, you should be able to tell by ear where extension really drops off.

With my little 8" Yamahas it was pretty much a cliff after 28hz.
So far I'd have to say that the FR graph on the Emotiva site seems entirely credible, maybe even conservative. There's definitely a hump in the mid-40s and it definitely starts to roll off under 30 Hz but it doesn't have that falling off a cliff feeling until the mid 20s.
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I will probably get bashed for recommending this, but first, before I mention the subs I ask you to consider, I'll say that I bought them knowing that I will someday upgrade and that doesn't bother me at all. They are definitely "budget subs" (but they DO NOT sound like it!!!) and they come with a 45-day hassle-free return, a 5 year warranty, free shipping and no tax!

I would consider purchasing 2 DAYTON SUB-1200 12" subwoofers at $148 each, which is what I currently have in my room right now and I can't imagine you'd be disappointed with the bass, especially since you don't have a sub now. FYI: My home theater room isn't too far off from yours, size-wise, and my HT-to-Music ratio is about the same.

Just read through the reviews on the website link below... that's all I ask.

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I will probably get bashed for recommending this, but first, before I mention the subs I ask you to consider, I'll say that I bought them knowing that I will someday upgrade and that doesn't bother me at all. They are definitely "budget subs" (but they DO NOT sound like it!!!) and they come with a 45-day hassle-free return, a 5 year warranty, free shipping and no tax!

I would consider purchasing 2 DAYTON SUB-1200 12" subwoofers at $148 each, which is what I currently have in my room right now and I can't imagine you'd be disappointed with the bass, especially since you don't have a sub now. FYI: My home theater room isn't too far off from yours, size-wise, and my HT-to-Music ratio is about the same.

Just read through the reviews on the website link below... that's all I ask.

https://www.parts-express.com/dayton...oofer--300-629
Here is the frequency response curve for the Dayton Audio sub 1000 which claims 30hz bass extension but actually only achieved 38hz. The response looks like an upside down "V" which is not what you want. Chart courtesy of Sound and Vision.


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I will say it again..SPL charts are not everything...



I would say that sub out performs almost every HTIB made......certainly out performs no sub and I would imagine it rates pretty high among sub 150 dollar subs with free shipping and it is on sale frequently for 129 bucks free shipping.



I have no idea how that measurement was conducted, but I am sure it was not in my room or his, so it is pretty much no indication of how it will perform there......SPL is great for comparing different subs and horrible for predicting what it will sound like in some ones room or If they will be entertained by it.


It could do much worse than that in room or much better.


Is it the bottom of the acceptable list .....sure, is it bottom of the list of all subs...far far from it....


I am starting to like directly at the cone measurements........because any other measurement is a variable of conditions I will never operate it in.......


That sub, a long with many other cheap subs packs a lot of entertainment value for a average user.........and makes entry level audio affordable and enjoyable....some might choose to stay there and be happy, others might end up with a room full of high end subs.


I a going to call it a "Gateway" sub....... , it opens the door with a cheap/easy package that makes a lot of noise and entertains.
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Here is the frequency response curve for the Dayton Audio sub 1000 which claims 30hz bass extension but actually only achieved 38hz. The response looks like an upside down "V" which is not what you want. Chart courtesy of Sound and Vision.


I have dual SUB-1200s, not SUB-1000s.

And like unretarded said, SPL charts don't tell the entire story anyway.

And yeah, it's better than no sub at all!
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I have dual SUB-1200s, not SUB-1000s.

And like unretarded said, SPL charts don't tell the entire story anyway.

And yeah, it's better than no sub at all!
The graph was to show that Dayton Audio subs are peaky boom boxes in design.

I'm afraid the days of choosing a BIC or Dayton Audio sub for around $200 are no more as the Emotiva subs will meet their specified output without a peaky frequency response like the BICs and Dayton Audios.

If you are happy with them that's fine but for those looking to buy now Emotiva provides a well engineered product for very little money.

In my secondary room I have two Yamaha SW012s that cost a total of less than $200 and they actually have frequency response down to 28hz and plugging the port with low density foam improved the frequency response and made it less peaky.

But that was before the far superior BasX S8 was available.
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i can tell you for certain.. because i own both subs ... the emotiva 8 in. is superior in EVERY way to the BICv1220($190) .. that being said the bic is great in a small room for music, it blends with bookshelf speakers i have had easily.. but once again the little 8" emotiva is only $200 and it's G-O-O-D... probably as good for a small room as anything under $500.. that being said the 10"and 12" are probably better for larger areas....i also have a yamaha 8" sub paired with the bic.. it's ok for $100.. but it is light years short of either of the others for overall performance...
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The graph was to show that Dayton Audio subs are peaky boom boxes in design.

I'm afraid the days of choosing a BIC or Dayton Audio sub for around $200 are no more as the Emotiva subs will meet their specified output without a peaky frequency response like the BICs and Dayton Audios.

If you are happy with them that's fine but for those looking to buy now Emotiva provides a well engineered product for very little money.

In my secondary room I have two Yamaha SW012s that cost a total of less than $200 and they actually have frequency response down to 28hz and plugging the port with low density foam improved the frequency response and made it less peaky.

But that was before the far superior BasX S8 was available.

That's good to know. Thanks for the info.

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The graph was to show that Dayton Audio subs are peaky boom boxes in design.

I'm afraid the days of choosing a BIC or Dayton Audio sub for around $200 are no more as the Emotiva subs will meet their specified output without a peaky frequency response like the BICs and Dayton Audios.

If you are happy with them that's fine but for those looking to buy now Emotiva provides a well engineered product for very little money.

In my secondary room I have two Yamaha SW012s that cost a total of less than $200 and they actually have frequency response down to 28hz and plugging the port with low density foam improved the frequency response and made it less peaky.

But that was before the far superior BasX S8 was available.

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Yes, the daytons and bics are peaky and most at that level do not have DSP to fix it.


I will have to look into the basx sub as accurate is much more preferable to peaky.

How do you think it compares output wise to the 12 inch bic and dayton for movies?............I used to have in the early car audio days a pair of 6 inch polk subs that happened to be in a box built by a local guy that knew what he was doing.......they were in a box the size you see a pair of 15`s in now. They sounded real good and got loud enough.........

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Yes, the daytons and bics are peaky and most at that level do not have DSP to fix it.


I will have to look into the basx sub as accurate is much more preferable to peaky.

How do you think it compares output wise to the 12 inch bic and dayton for movies?............I used to have in the early car audio days a pair of 6 inch polk subs that happened to be in a box built by a local guy that knew what he was doing.......they were in a box the size you see a pair of 15`s in now. They sounded real good and got loud enough.........
The $199 BasX S8 has an amp the same size as the Dayton Audio 15" sub and actually has useable extension below 30hz.

I'm going to "assume" the larger subs will push more air but at higher frequencies.

So if you listen at very high volumes the BIC likely will play the loudest as it has amps with higher wattage specs.

But the BIC PL200II is $330 and if it were me I'd still get a $299 BasX S10 over it to be honest despite having 50 less continuous watts than the BIC.

I'd definitely get the BIC over the Dayton Audio.
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The $199 BasX S8 has an amp the same size as the Dayton Audio 15" sub and actually has useable extension below 30hz.

I'm going to "assume" the larger subs will push more air but at higher frequencies.

So if you listen at very high volumes the BIC likely will play the loudest as it has amps with higher wattage specs.

But the BIC PL200II is $330 and if it were me I'd still get a $299 BasX S10 over it to be honest despite having 50 less continuous watts than the BIC.

I'd definitely get the BIC over the Dayton Audio.

I try to help when possible, although what I know is limited.....

I certainly do not want to give bad info and I trust what you say......thanks.

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