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What has more clarity than Q100 at 80Hz+? $500-$1000 for pair

I'm wanting to put together a budget 5.2.4 atmos system, and I'm looking for speakers with clarity at conversation level loudness. It will be matched with a sub, so I'm looking for something that will perform down to 60Hz so that it will cross over nicely. Frustratingly, almost everything these days seems to be compromised in order to get bass response - I guess they know that most people are reviewing in a 2.0 configuration!

I've shortlisted the KEF Q100, but wondering if there is anything else out there. I'm particularly interested in the small Q Acoustic bookshelves, but haven't been able to find any good A/B comparisons that are based on 2.1 or 5.1 usage.

So the criteria is:
  • Budget of around $500 to $1000 per pair
  • Response required down to 60Hz only
  • More mid and hi clarity than KEF Q100, at conversation level loudness
  • Can be timbre matched to wide-dispersion or aimable in-ceiling speakers, <$200 per speaker
  • To go in a treated room 5x6m (15x18ft)
  • Bonus points if wall mount-able. (I guess rear ports would not be an issue since I'm not wanting bass response)

Thank you kind sirs!

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Than q100? Not very much. I'd expect these possible answers;

Emotiva airmotiv (also has nice wall mount surrounds)

Goldenear (above price range)

Ascend acoustics Sierra 1 and 2 (2 is above price range)

Philharmonitor (above price range)

Other than that I doubt you'll find much that can possibly top kefs mids and highs in that range. The q acoustics won't be close, at least not the 3020, I have those and it's no comparison. I also have the nht, not close, and I recently returned the def tech 65s because not close.
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I will add 2 that are not bad options, the focal aria may be close, maybe someone on here has compared the 905 to the q100. Also, the canton chrono will be close, though I don't think it's better. But it does match the kefs well for a center, that's what I use with mine.
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I will add 2 that are not bad options, the focal aria may be close, maybe someone on here has compared the 905 to the q100. Also, the canton chrono will be close, though I don't think it's better. But it does match the kefs well for a center, that's what I use with mine.
I was wondering about those two, since accessories4less has them at semi-normal prices.

Canton Vento would be better than the chrono, but they are out of stock on the bookshelves at acc4less (centers would be $1300/pair, towers $1800/pair). Amazon does have Canton Ref 9s at $1100, backordered -- still very pricey.
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[*]Can be timbre matched to wide-dispersion or aimable in-ceiling speakers, <$200 per speaker
This pretty much limits you to NHT, JBL, HTD, and Klipsch (not sure about the price cap for in-ceilings).

Make your life and wallet a lot happier and hurl the "timbre matching" folklore to the wayside, I say.

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... Other than that I doubt you'll find much that can possibly top kefs mids and highs in that range.
Thanks, that really gives me confidence in the Q100s. I just found a pair of used Q500s for $520, I am seriously considering them for front duty. I'm drivers are the same, I'm hoping that they have the same clarity as the Q100.
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If you want better clarity than the Kef Q100, you'll need to go the next level up.
Option for < $1000
Kef R 100
Focal Aria
Canton Vento, maybe the Chrono.
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This pretty much limits you to NHT, JBL, HTD, and Klipsch (not sure about the price cap for in-ceilings).

Make your life and wallet a lot happier and hurl the "timbre matching" folklore to the wayside, I say.
Yeah you're right, I am making things hard for myself. KEF have ceiling speakers with the same Uni-Q concentric driver, though I just realised the <$200 ones I were looking at were 4" drivers, whereas the 5.25" ones that match the Q100s are about double the price. I don't understand why a single ceiling speaker with a very small plastic enclosure costs the same as 2 bookshelves. I guess because it's in their "architectural" range.

If the 4" ones were an OK match for the 5.25" ones, it would be a wise choice rather than a totally different driver, yeah? The only other well priced ceiling speakers I found are the Klipsch ones, but not excited about Klipsch speakers in that price range.
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Thanks, that really gives me confidence in the Q100s. I just found a pair of used Q500s for $520, I am seriously considering them for front duty. I'm drivers are the same, I'm hoping that they have the same clarity as the Q100.
You'll get better dynamics with the tower without compromising detail and clarity. Still need a sub though.

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You'll get better dynamics with the tower without compromising detail and clarity. Still need a sub though.
Great! That's my intention, to include a sub. One poster reported that the Q500 has more clarity than the Q700 and Q900, but worse bottom end, which is exactly what I want.
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Yeah you're right, I am making things hard for myself. KEF have ceiling speakers with the same Uni-Q concentric driver, though I just realised the <$200 ones I were looking at were 4" drivers, whereas the 5.25" ones that match the Q100s are about double the price. I don't understand why a single ceiling speaker with a very small plastic enclosure costs the same as 2 bookshelves. I guess because it's in their "architectural" range.

If the 4" ones were an OK match for the 5.25" ones, it would be a wise choice rather than a totally different driver, yeah? The only other well priced ceiling speakers I found are the Klipsch ones, but not excited about Klipsch speakers in that price range.
You can save some $ with the ceiling speakers here.
https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...1.html?brand_f[]=KEF

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Ah, just figured out the multi-quote reply...

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Are you from the USA?

I would look at the Monitor Audio Silver 1
No, shipping is quite expensive where I am.

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If you want better clarity than the Kef Q100, you'll need to go the next level up.
Option for < $1000
Kef R 100
Focal Aria
Canton Vento, maybe the Chrono.
https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...eakers/1.html?
Thanks for those suggestions. I went through them and the cheapest of them all still came to $1350 USD amongst my local retailers... ugh.

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Focal aria 905 on a4L at $500 a pair are much better then any kef q.

Canton vento are also a huge step up from kef in general.

Q300 I had easily distorted at higher volume. Even lost a uni q driver on one. Kef are nice just meant for a modest listener. That wasn't me
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Sierra 2's with RAAL ribbons can be had for $1150 a pair B stock. Same with the new Lunas, which are smaller, front ported, and wall mountable, but have the same RAAL ribbons. I have the Sierra 2's in my living room for L/C/R, and if you are not looking for reference in a big HT, the RAAL ribbons are tough to beat, IMO.

http://forum.ascendacoustics.com/sho...d-measurements

http://www.audioholics.com/bookshelf...a-luna-speaker

Since this is AVS, I figured your stated budget was subject to reasonable budget creep.
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Wow, sure does. They don't ship outside US which is a crying shame. Duties and shipping usually doubles the price though, probably more so for towers.

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You can save some $ with the ceiling speakers here.
https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...1.html?brand_f[]=KEF
Thanks, yeah those prices are good. It will be 12 months or so before I'm ready to do the ceiling install, so I have some time. I will set up some saved searches and wait for an open box special to come up.
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Sierra 2's with RAAL ribbons can be had for $1150 a pair B stock. Same with the new Lunas...

Since this is AVS, I figured your stated budget was subject to reasonable budget creep.
You know what, I'm kind of relieved that no retailers have them available to listen to in my country. No chance to blow the budget! Thank you for the suggestion though.

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Focal aria 905 on a4L at $500 a pair are much better then any kef q.

Canton vento are also a huge step up from kef in general.

Q300 I had easily distorted at higher volume. Even lost a uni q driver on one. Kef are nice just meant for a modest listener. That wasn't me
Thanks there is one place that has the Focals here, I will try to get out and listen to them. The local pricing for Canton Ventos blows right out of my budget. It's weird, some speakers seem to be imported here at a fair price, while others come out to triple the price once converted back to USD.

Thankfully I don't like to drive my speakers loud, so I hope I don't run into the distortion problems you had.
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I'd expect the ventos to compete more with the kef r series, and they are closer in price. I haven't heard the focals, but I've heard good things about them. But I often play my q300s at 85db at about 12 ft in a 3300cuft room, and I haven't had any problems with distortion or anything. In fact they sound better the more power I give them, I find. But the op did state for conversation level volume.
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If the 4" ones were an OK match for the 5.25" ones, it would be a wise choice rather than a totally different driver, yeah? The only other well priced ceiling speakers I found are the Klipsch ones, but not excited about Klipsch speakers in that price range.
Seriously, I would lose zero sleep over "matching" surrounds to fronts...they do what, maybe 5-10% of the audio output tops during HT. It's only relevant if you plan on listening to a lot of native-surround music like SACD or DVD-A.
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No, shipping is quite expensive where I am.



Thanks for those suggestions. I went through them and the cheapest of them all still came to $1350 USD amongst my local retailers... ugh.
That changes your options. I just assumed you were in the US.

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I'm wanting to put together a budget 5.2.4 atmos system, and I'm looking for speakers with clarity at conversation level loudness. It will be matched with a sub, so I'm looking for something that will perform down to 60Hz so that it will cross over nicely. Frustratingly, almost everything these days seems to be compromised in order to get bass response - I guess they know that most people are reviewing in a 2.0 configuration!

I've shortlisted the KEF Q100, but wondering if there is anything else out there. I'm particularly interested in the small Q Acoustic bookshelves, but haven't been able to find any good A/B comparisons that are based on 2.1 or 5.1 usage.

So the criteria is:
  • Budget of around $500 to $1000 per pair
  • Response required down to 60Hz only
  • More mid and hi clarity than KEF Q100, at conversation level loudness
  • Can be timbre matched to wide-dispersion or aimable in-ceiling speakers, <$200 per speaker
  • To go in a treated room 5x6m (15x18ft)
  • Bonus points if wall mount-able. (I guess rear ports would not be an issue since I'm not wanting bass response)

Thank you kind sirs!
Q Acoustics are a fine choice, as are KEF, but you'd have to audition the Concept 20s, (which I really liked), as the KEF is superior to the 3020.

As to ceiling speakers, as Zorba said, any decent brand should do; no need to brand match speakers that are mostly used for effects IMHO.
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Thanks, yeah those prices are good. It will be 12 months or so before I'm ready to do the ceiling install, so I have some time. I will set up some saved searches and wait for an open box special to come up.
In that case, don't even worry about the ceiling speakers at all. Both the Concept 20's and Kef would be excellent choices. If you have a chance to listen to both, that would be your best bet, though I don't suspect there would be very big difference between them and I don't think you'd be disappointed with either to be honest.
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In that case, don't even worry about the ceiling speakers at all. Both the Concept 20's and Kef would be excellent choices. If you have a chance to listen to both, that would be your best bet, though I don't suspect there would be very big difference between them and I don't think you'd be disappointed with either to be honest.
having recently purchased the q 100's i can say that you will probably like them unless you really like very bright speakers.. they are very neutral overall .. the concept 20's are very similar from what i can gather.. neutral +/-....
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having recently purchased the q 100's i can say that you will probably like them unless you really like very bright speakers.. they are very neutral overall .. the concept 20's are very similar from what i can gather.. neutral +/-....
He probably has other options as well, just not sure what else is available to him in a similar price range. Unless I missed it, we still don't know what country he's in so can't look anything up.
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Is funny how people describe the sound of speakers and how it varies so much. I'd say the kef q series is bright and anything but natural.

Still great speakers and I love speakers with good detail. They are a typical metal dome tweeter
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Is funny how people describe the sound of speakers and how it varies so much. I'd say the kef q series is bright and anything but natural.

Still great speakers and I love speakers with good detail. They are a typical metal dome tweeter
I think many people mistake forward for bright...i know what bright sounds like , i have infinity alpha 20's. .. the kefs aren't even close to as bright or forward. ..
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I'd imagine, thinking he's in the European area, that the options are among things like q acoustics, Dali, kef, b&w, canton, cambridge. I think all of those have lines in this price range. I wasn't impressed with the zensor, the canton chrono sounds much better imo, but a used or closeout set of opticon might be good. Seriously, though, has anyone heard both the qa concept AND the kef q series to do a comparison? I'd be really impressed if it's as good.
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Kef are nice speakers for sure but are not balanced or neutral. Will have to disagree.

Love the tweets and mids on the kefs when I had them. Even the q900 lack bass. They are speakers that need a good sub for sure.

I much prefer my definitive 7001 or canton reference 3k. Or even my cheaper jbl l890
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Kef are nice speakers for sure but are not balanced or neutral. Will have to disagree.

Love the tweets and mids on the kefs when I had them. Even the q900 lack bass. They are speakers that need a good sub for sure.

I much prefer my definitive 7001 or canton reference 3k. Or even my cheaper jbl l890
Fair enough. . We don't hear them the same....btw I am running a sub
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