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How heavy of a TV could I place on top of my center CC-190 speaker or is it recommended that I not do that? For the record I have not put anything on it yet but I might be getting a new TV in the near future and not sure if I'm going to wall mount it or not.
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Anthem is another fine choice and is from the same family tree as Paradigm.
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How heavy of a TV could I place on top of my center CC-190 speaker or is it recommended that I not do that? For the record I have not put anything on it yet but I might be getting a new TV in the near future and not sure if I'm going to wall mount it or not.
Not sure how much it would support but I wouldn't tisk it. You would probably scratch up the speaker and it would look much better with the TV wall mounted. I got a wall mount from monoprice that works great and was only like $20.
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I plan on buying Pinpioint AM 40's to wall mount a pair of SE-1's. While I'm confident these mounts will work (Thanks Grasshoppers), I still have concerns about the speakers falling if I tilt them slightly downward. Screws (can't believe that suggestion) are not and option. After reading reviews about the mounts, someone mentioned a reusable adhesive called Blu Tack. I then read reviews about it and feel confident it will give me the extra peace of mind I'm looking for. With that being said, are there any Paradigm owners using this stuff? If so, does it work as advertised? Does it last over time? Does it stain if it has to be removed? Any comments/thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
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I plan on buying Pinpioint AM 40's to wall mount a pair of SE-1's. While I'm confident these mounts will work (Thanks Grasshoppers), I still have concerns about the speakers falling if I tilt them slightly downward. Screws (can't believe that suggestion) are not and option. After reading reviews about the mounts, someone mentioned a reusable adhesive called Blu Tack. I then read reviews about it and feel confident it will give me the extra peace of mind I'm looking for. With that being said, are there any Paradigm owners using this stuff? If so, does it work as advertised? Does it last over time? Does it stain if it has to be removed? Any comments/thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Used the same Blu-Tack on a pair of B&W 685 and my current Studio 20s after I sold the B&W's. Works as good as the day I bought it a couple of years ago. No stains and that would be covered up anyway by the mount you use or any stands you could buy.

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I just ordered a pair of piano black ADP3s for my side surround duties. Now I have to figure out how I am going to mount and wire them.
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Well guys, I'm the proud owner of a CC-690 v4!


Around the end of 2012 and beginning of 2013, I upgraded from Monitor Series to Studio Series speakers when I happened to be able to make a few deals on used gear within a fairly short period of time. I ended up with Studio 40 v4s for fronts, Studio 20 v4s for surrounds, and a CC-490 v5 for the centre channel. I've had no complaints about the 490. It is a great centre. However, a CC-690 v4 came up in the used market in my area this week, and I jumped on it. I can't wait to hear it in my system!


It could be some time before I have the house empty of wife and kids long enough to do an Audyssey re-calibration, but once I do, I'll be sure to report back here with my thoughts on the change.


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I personally feel with my close out special edition speakers.. Se3 fronts center and se1 surround and a used svs pb2000 with a ok denon reciever my system is hard to beat around 2500

Compared to my parents theater with Polk audio and 2 18 inch subs it sounds clearer and crisp.

None of my friends are nuts over home theater but the compliments are endless. And I wouldn't say I am either it's just a simple system that was affordable and simple to set up

Anyways couldn't have done it with out this forum. Thank you everyone!



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Congrats, nice setup.
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Looking good. I always liked the looks of the SE lineup.
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Very nice set-up. I've been saying for
Over a year now (bought my SE speakers last Fathers Day)
That the SE series is the best value in the
Paradigm lineup. Get 'em before they are gone!
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Picking up a pair of SE-1's this Friday for my living room. I can hardly wait. My second zone just got a whole lot better.
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Very nice clean looking set up. I almost bit on those SE towers for fronts. But you know how this hobby is. You go to the store and test out a bunch of stuff, you keep going up the series. I decided that I'm going with Studios, but those SE's were very nice and slick looking.
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Thinking on buying some Studio 100v5's or some Sig8's. Are the 100v5's more than enough than the sig8's for a normal size living room? I'd love to wrap my hands around some sig'8's but they seem overkill to me not to mention "baller" status :/ Thanks!
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I have Studio 100s with a CC690 and Monitor 11s (for now) at the rear powered by an Anthem MCA50 and they rock.
This weekend a mate came over and we blasted the live 1974 Pink Floyd set, it was past 100db and punched us in the guts, I felt as if I was there...Love my set up.

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Well guys, I'm the proud owner of a CC-690 v4!


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It could be some time before I have the house empty of wife and kids long enough to do an Audyssey re-calibration, but once I do, I'll be sure to report back here with my thoughts on the change.


Cheers!

I got lucky, and had the house to myself for a bit on Saturday, so I was able to re-calibrate Audyssey, with the 690 in my system, and do just a little bit of testing. So here are my impressions so far.


The front soundstage is absolutely seamless! It also sounds full and clear.


My setup resides in an area that is enclosed on 3 sides only. There is no wall behind the listening position. Beyond that area, it opens up to a much larger room which, in turn, is open to the rest of the house. When I first acquired my Studio 20s, I did not have the Studio 40s yet, so I was using them as the main L/R. They sound great, but seemed a bit strained whenever I wanted to crank up the volume. So, I acquired the Studio 40s and put them up front and moved the 20s to surround duty. The additional output gave me the headroom I was looking for on those rare occasions that I get to "rock out"!


I was having a similar issue with my CC-490. It sounded great, but just not quite keeping up with the 40s when played at loud levels in my open-concept home.


The CC-690 has certainly cured that!!! I finally understand all the hype I've seen in this thread regarding the 690. While I never would have been willing to spend what it costs to get one of these brand new, I'm really glad that I was able to acquire one on the used market, for a very reasonable price. It is awesome!!!

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wall mounts

hi everyone.
i was just looking to see what wall mounts people have used for their paradigm ct 100 speakers.
the mounts that were included dont allow for 180 degree rotation.
i have very cheap universal ones but i am looking for something of better quality.
any suggestions would be great
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When I first acquired my Studio 20s, I did not have the Studio 40s yet, so I was using them as the main L/R. They sound great, but seemed a bit strained whenever I wanted to crank up the volume. So, I acquired the Studio 40s and put them up front and moved the 20s to surround duty. The additional output gave me the headroom I was looking for...
I totally agree - I was really sad that Paradigm didn't continue either the Studio 40 or the Signature S4 in the current line - maybe one of them will reappear in the next update to the Studio or Signature line. I sure would like a pair of S4 v.4 some day!

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I was having a similar issue with my CC-490. It sounded great, but just not quite keeping up with the 40s when played at loud levels in my open-concept home... While I never would have been willing to spend what it costs to get one of these brand new, I'm really glad that I was able to acquire one on the used market, for a very reasonable price. It is awesome!!!
Same here - I have been on the lookout for a black C3 v.2 or C5 v.2 on the used market but haven't seen one in nearly two years so looking - owners are obviously happy with them which is a good sign!

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Hi everyone.
I live in Saudi Arabia, and I ask how much the cost for 2xSignature S8 v3 and 1xSignature C5 v3 ( piano black ) at the local dealer in U.S?
Because my cousin is now in United States to study and he can be sent it by sea shipping.
There is one local dealer in my country but prices has like hell.
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I totally agree - I was really sad that Paradigm didn't continue either the Studio 40 or the Signature S4 in the current line - maybe one of them will reappear in the next update to the Studio or Signature line. I sure would like a pair of S4 v.4 some day!

Yeah, it's too bad they discontinued those models. Those S4s look pretty sweet!


In v4 of the Studio series, both the Studio 40 and the Studio 60 were 3 driver, 2 1/2 way designs, with the 40 being a standmount, and the 60 being a floorstander. The only difference was cabinet size. Once you factor in the cost of stands, there probably wasn't much reason for anyone to go with the 40s over the 60s, so I can understand why they might not have sold well.


However, when v5 of the Studio Series came out, the Studio 60 moved to a 4 driver design. With this added differentiation, I think there might have been room for the Studio 40 to remain in the line-up.


On the other hand, in v2 of the Signature series the S4 was a 3 driver design, and the S6 a 4 driver design. Despite that differentiation between them, the S4 was still eliminated from the lineup when v3 was released.


I guess it was a way to push people to the pricier floorstander if they wanted something with more output than the Studio 20 or the S2.


Anyway, that's the main reason I've been wanting Paradigm to release both a new Studio Series and a new Signature Series. As you mentioned, people tend to hang on to these. I'm hoping that when the new ones are released, it will prompt those with deeper pockets to upgrade, resulting in an influx of earlier versions on the used market. Everybody wins, right?!?!

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In v4 of the Studio series, both the Studio 40 and the Studio 60 were 3 driver, 2 1/2 way designs, with the 40 being a standmount, and the 60 being a floorstander. The only difference was cabinet size. Once you factor in the cost of stands, there probably wasn't much reason for anyone to go with the 40s over the 60s, so I can understand why they might not have sold well.


However, when v5 of the Studio Series came out, the Studio 60 moved to a 4 driver design. With this added differentiation, I think there might have been room for the Studio 40 to remain in the line-up. On the other hand, in v2 of the Signature series the S4 was a 3 driver design, and the S6 a 4 driver design. Despite that differentiation between them, the S4 was still eliminated from the lineup when v3 was released.
Good point, I never thought about it that way - there is a large jump in technology and a gap in the product offering - and a HUGE gap in pricing - S2: 2 driver / 2 way / 52Hz / $3400, S6: 4 driver / 3 way / 45Hz / $6600 - nearly double. I see the bass extension of the S2 has been creeping down, but people seem to complain about total output so I wasn't willing to go that small.

Plus, some people just want a large (sub 50Hz) bookshelf to put on really nice stands for aesthetic / durability reasons and Paradigm doesn't have an offering any longer - you have to go with Focal or some other brand - and I really like Paradigm. The durability thing for me is that floor standers are going to get banged up by the vacuum and knocked and nicked by any sharp object passing by at floor level in a shared room. If I had a dedicated room that I could lock them into, I would prefer the S6. But imagine plopping down nearly $7k for a brand new pair of S6 floorstanders and then having to count the number of times they get damaged. My steel powder-coated Premier stands full of 80lbs of lead shot can take a huge amount of abuse and never show it.
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I live in Saudi Arabia, and I ask how much the cost for 2xSignature S8 v3 and 1xSignature C5 v3 ( piano black ) at the local dealer in U.S?
Because my cousin is now in United States to study and he can be sent it by sea shipping.
There is one local dealer in my country but prices has like hell.
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15K. 5 thousand each. It seems like gloss black is $500 more per speaker than Cherry
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It is interesting that Paradigm still sells a 20 something inch stand - described on the web site as: "23-inch tall stand for use with Studio 40 or Signature S4". They haven't sold these two speaker models for over 5 years.

http://www.paradigm.com/products-cur.../page=overview
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Those stands look so slick and perfectly match with their bookshelf speakers, but I think they are way too expensive. It's one of the reason why I'm looking at floorstanders.
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15K. 5 thousand each. It seems like gloss black is $500 more per speaker than Cherry
You Kidding me.
My Local dealer is gives it to me for $13k and another dealer in a neighboring country he gives it to me for $9k.
Are you sure that this is the price in the United States?
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I have Studio 100s with a CC690 and Monitor 11s (for now) at the rear powered by an Anthem MCA50 and they rock.
This weekend a mate came over and we blasted the live 1974 Pink Floyd set, it was past 100db and punched us in the guts, I felt as if I was there...Love my set up.
Interesting, I have a similar setup with Studio 100s and CC-590 with Monitor 9 v.2 in the rear that I just replaced with Studio 20s.....all v.5s. The 20s really match well, both visually and musically, sitting on Paradigm J-29 stands. They are almost exactly the same height as the 100s and the imaging is greatly improved with multi-channel music. I'm a huge Pink Floyd fan as well and really enjoy the DSOTM and WYWH SACDs as well as David Gilmour blu-rays.
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You Kidding me.
My Local dealer is gives it to me for $13k and another dealer in a neighboring country he gives it to me for $9k.
Are you sure that this is the price in the United States?
If you go to the us paradigm page you will see the prices starting at ... That is for the cherry. I just purchased 2 sig 8s, 2 sig 2s and a c5. If you can get them for 9k then that is way more than 30% off. You sure the are new and not demo? I got a good chunk off and I paid more than 9k but less than 13k for the 3.
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Decision Time

Alright, short and sweet. Which do I buy:

Option #1 : Signature ADP (the original V1s) in birdseye maple. $1350. Mint.

Option #2 : Signature ADP3 V.2 in birdseye maple. $1650. Mint.
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Alright, short and sweet. Which do I buy:

Option #1 : Signature ADP (the original V1s) in birdseye maple. $1350. Mint.

Option #2 : Signature ADP3 V.2 in birdseye maple. $1650. Mint.
Option 2...for the Be tweeter.
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Does anyone know if the S1 has been discontinued? It looks like they have been moved to the archived products section. I was looking for a smaller pair of speakers to go with my NAD 7050D. I didn't like it driving my S2 compared to my Marantz integrated amps.
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