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post #30391 of 30808 Old 07-22-2014, 06:03 PM
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New Studios?

Any word on a new version of the Studios coming out soon?
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What is wrong with this picture?

I plan to upgrade all my speakers at a later date, but all my free cash is going into finishing the basement right now, and I have perfectly good (albeit old) Paradigm speakers to use. (Phantom v.1, CC-150, PDR-10) I had been using a pair of v.3 Titans as surround speakers, but want to use them in the family room (zone 2) for now. So I was looking for a pair of surrounds on the cheap to get me by until the budget allows for upgrades. Bought this pair of ADP-170 v.2 speakers off Ebay. They sound great, and upon opening them up, the speakers all appear to be original Paradigm... But the fronts of the speakers are upside down! The fronts don't come off on these speakers, and there is no evidence (inside or out) of the fronts being pried off, so I'm not sure how this happened. Both are identical. Anyone ever heard of this, or did I get taken for $89?

Every other pic of these I've found, the Paradigm logo is centered and on the same end of the speakers as the posts. On these, I'd have to have the tweeters down for the Paradigm logo to be right side up.
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Hi guys,

Has anyone here heard the 30th anniversary Inspiration in comparison to the Studio 20? I've been leaning towards the Inspiration but my dealer doesn't have them in to audition, only the Studio floorstanders. I'm guessing the Inspiration is a lot better but thought I'd ask.
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For the 690 owners, what are you guys using for stands? Besides the crazy expensive Paradigm stand, anything else i find that is 18", can only support 25-35lbs. Is there anything else out there that can support this monster for a reasonable price?

Thanks!
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For the 690 owners, what are you guys using for stands? Besides the crazy expensive Paradigm stand, anything else i find that is 18", can only support 25-35lbs. Is there anything else out there that can support this monster for a reasonable price?

Thanks!
Maybe try getting 2 of these:

http://www.wayfair.com/VTI-DF-Series...FC-VI1046.html
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For the 690 owners, what are you guys using for stands? Besides the crazy expensive Paradigm stand, anything else i find that is 18", can only support 25-35lbs. Is there anything else out there that can support this monster for a reasonable price?

Thanks!

I am looking at a single 7" shelf of this Model #: BLG503BB: http://www.vtimanufacturing.com/vti_...io-video-rack/

Here is a website selling it... http://www.standsandmounts.com/vtibl...03-010203.aspx

Certainly holds the weight and is a few inches larger than the CC-690. They have some smaller options that would for the most part be hidden under the larger speaker: http://www.standsandmounts.com/vtibl...sfinishes.aspx

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I made a custom "cradle" for my cc690. I made templates using the profile of the curves and translated that to wood. If your interested I have a pic in the top sticky about posting pics of speakers. I could also make one out of carbon if you desire. Hit me up in a PM if you want more info.
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Hey everyone,

I currently have a Polk set up and I am considering Paradigm as an upgrade soon in the future and found a good deal on a cc390 center speaker on craigslist. How much better would Paradigm cc390 plus monitor 9 or 11s and surrounds (ideas on surrounds?) be than Polk rti8 and Fxi5 and csi5?

Anyone with experience with both?

Please let me know.
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Hey everyone,

I currently have a Polk set up and I am considering Paradigm as an upgrade soon in the future and found a good deal on a cc390 center speaker on craigslist. How much better would Paradigm cc390 plus monitor 9 or 11s and surrounds (ideas on surrounds?) be than Polk rti8 and Fxi5 and csi5?

Anyone with experience with both?

Please let me know.
Thanks!
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Hey everyone,

I currently have a Polk set up and I am considering Paradigm as an upgrade soon in the future and found a good deal on a cc390 center speaker on craigslist. How much better would Paradigm cc390 plus monitor 9 or 11s and surrounds (ideas on surrounds?) be than Polk rti8 and Fxi5 and csi5?

Anyone with experience with both?

Please let me know.
Thanks!
I only have experience with a Polk htib, but I do have a cc390, 9's, adp-390's and adp-190's plus a pdr100. I can tell you that this setup for me puts out tremendous sound, and all of my friends love my setup. Just wanted to mention that the cc390 is a hard to come by item so if you really want it, jump on it quickly. I had to get mine through US Audiomart which was a little scary sending a money order to someone I didn't know. Luckily the guy was honest. Also you may not want ADP's with all the atmos talk that I've been hearing lately. Sorry I could not help with a direct comparison, but I thought I would give you the info that I do have.
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Those aren't bad, but i actually saw another on that site when i opened it that supported the weight. Only problem is that it was too small. 13" i believe.

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I am looking at a single 7" shelf of this Model #: BLG503BB: http://www.vtimanufacturing.com/vti_...io-video-rack/

Here is a website selling it... http://www.standsandmounts.com/vtibl...03-010203.aspx

Certainly holds the weight and is a few inches larger than the CC-690. They have some smaller options that would for the most part be hidden under the larger speaker: http://www.standsandmounts.com/vtibl...sfinishes.aspx
I am looking for more of a stand like the Paradigm stand. But thanks for the info.

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I made a custom "cradle" for my cc690. I made templates using the profile of the curves and translated that to wood. If your interested I have a pic in the top sticky about posting pics of speakers. I could also make one out of carbon if you desire. Hit me up in a PM if you want more info.
I will try and take a look at the pics and see if it is something i would like to do. The carbon finish does intrigue me though. I love Carbon Fibre everything.
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ADP-590 as Surrounds...Crossover

The specs say: 2nd-order electro-acoustic at 300 Hz (bassdriver); 1st-order electro-acoustic at 2.1 kHz

My Yamaha CX-A5000 allows for the Surround crossover settings (variable Hz and a sm/lg setting), which is currently at the default of 80 Hz and small.

Should I change the Yamaha to match the crossover of the ADP-590?
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The specs say: 2nd-order electro-acoustic at 300 Hz (bassdriver); 1st-order electro-acoustic at 2.1 kHz

My Yamaha CX-A5000 allows for the Surround crossover settings (variable Hz and a sm/lg setting), which is currently at the default of 80 Hz and small.

Should I change the Yamaha to match the crossover of the ADP-590?
No. The specs for the ADP-590 are referring to the crossover points between the tweeter and mid-bass drivers (2.1 kHz), and the crossover between the mid-bass drivers and the bass driver (300 Hz).

The crossover setting in your Yamaha is controlling the point at which the low frequencies (bass) will be "cut-off" from the surround speakers and re-routed to the subwoofer. With the current setting of 80 Hz, the receiver will take all frequencies below 80 Hz from the surround channels and send them to the subwoofer, not the surround speakers. Given that the specs for the ADP-590 say that its low frequency extension is 60 Hz, an 80 Hz crossover setting is probably ideal.

I wouldn't change a thing!

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polk csi5 vs. paradigm cc390

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I only have experience with a Polk htib, but I do have a cc390, 9's, adp-390's and adp-190's plus a pdr100. I can tell you that this setup for me puts out tremendous sound, and all of my friends love my setup. Just wanted to mention that the cc390 is a hard to come by item so if you really want it, jump on it quickly. I had to get mine through US Audiomart which was a little scary sending a money order to someone I didn't know. Luckily the guy was honest. Also you may not want ADP's with all the atmos talk that I've been hearing lately. Sorry I could not help with a direct comparison, but I thought I would give you the info that I do have.

So, I can hopefully get either the cc390 for 200-250 or the csi5 for 150. I think the cc390 is a better value because it is a better speaker at that price but the csi5 matches my rti8s.

I would never put anything like a klipsch center with my polk system but would the paradigm center pair reasonably well? I'd love to have the best center possible but not if it is going to not mix well.

Please let me know your opinions!
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So, I can hopefully get either the cc390 for 200-250 or the csi5 for 150. I think the cc390 is a better value because it is a better speaker at that price but the csi5 matches my rti8s.

I would never put anything like a klipsch center with my polk system but would the paradigm center pair reasonably well? I'd love to have the best center possible but not if it is going to not mix well.

Please let me know your opinions!
I can say that I was hesitant about having a mismatched center from my FL/FR speaker and after running Audyssey I can't tell they're not all Studio speakers. I would go with the best speaker if it doesn't hurt your budget and just do like you said and make sure the tweeters are similar tech, dome/horn/ribbon etc. I have a B&W 6 series1 center and Studio 20 FL/FR.

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Anybody with Studio 60's, V.5 out there?

How do they sound? Any comparison to earlier Studio 60 versions?

What have you matched the center channel to?

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I did not know a bookshelf speaker could dig so deep. I think I love you SE-1's. LOL🔊
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I did not know a bookshelf speaker could dig so deep. I think I love you SE-1's. LOL🔊
Try the Dynaudio C1s. They produce bass that makes one wonder where the subwoofer is hiding.

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I am looking at the following speakers for music and movies and could use a little feedback:

Fronts - Studio 100's
Center - CC690
Surrounds - ADP590's
Sub12

They would be driven by an Anthem MRX710, and will eventually add a MCA50 and MCA20 down the line.

These will be going into the living room, as I don't have anywhere for a dedicated theater.

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I have

Studio 100v.5
Studio CC-590v.5
Studio 20v.5
and a
SVS SB13 Ultra

100s are driven by a MCA 20 and 590 and 20s are driven by a Yamaha RX-A1000

and I'm thrilled.

Depending on your primary usage (if music) I'd recommend 20s instead of the ADPs.
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Funny you mention the 20's for the rears. My sons roommate works for a high-end AV store in Boston, and he spec'd out the 20's in the quote he sent me. He also recommended a Rotel RB-1582 to drive the fronts, I'm just not sure if that's in the budget.

It doesn't hurt that he is giving me a pretty healthy discount off MSRP.
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Funny you mention the 20's for the rears. My sons roommate works for a high-end AV store in Boston, and he spec'd out the 20's in the quote he sent me. He also recommended a Rotel RB-1582 to drive the fronts, I'm just not sure if that's in the budget.

It doesn't hurt that he is giving me a pretty healthy discount off MSRP.
Unless Paradigm debuts a new line of Dolby Atmos friendly speakers (especially for the surrounds and overheads), the Studio 20's would be the better speakers for surround use (since they aren't dipole in nature), especially with these object based surround formats. Coming this fall.

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See my signature, Sounds really great. If only my room was bigger!! I would go the 20s too. I will replace my Monitor 11s with them so i get a better match.

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I've got:
Studio 100v5's
CC690
ADP 590's

All are driven by a Parsound Halo A51 and I use a Marantz pre/pro. If you have a dedicated room or strictly movies then I would say 590's. However for your setup I would get the 20's. In retrospect I would have gotten the 20's myself. All you are missing is some more bass but you'll enjoy the digms guarenteed.
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So the CFO (SWMBO) and I went back up to Boston today to give things a listen. SWMBO was non-plussed, but thankfully she indulges my hobbies.

I am definitely going with the 20's for the rears, the Oppo BDP-105D, Anthem MRX710, and a few other odds and ends.

I will be adding a two channel amp to drive the 100's down the road after the finances recover a bit.

Looking forward to getting these things installed in a week or two.

Thanks for the feedback all,

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See my signature, Sounds really great. If only my room was bigger!! I would go the 20s too. I will replace my Monitor 11s with them so i get a better match.
I had Monitor 9 v.2s as rears up until a few months ago and was very surprised by the dramatic improvement when I switched to the 20s. Especially, for multi-channel music! Depending on the rear channel content, imaging is significantly improved.
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Hi, Im new here and I'm waiting on my 100s and can't wait, Im so excited!!!
Just thought id say hi.
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Hi, Im new here and I'm waiting on my 100s and can't wait, Im so excited!!!
Just thought id say hi.
Congrats! Killer speakers.
How long is the wait..(that's the hardest part)
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Hi, Im new here and I'm waiting on my 100s and can't wait, Im so excited!!!
Just thought id say hi.
Welcome to the club. Are you just having a stereo setup or are you setting up 5.1, etc....?
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Hi, Im new here and I'm waiting on my 100s and can't wait, Im so excited!!!
Just thought id say hi.

Congrats! I'm on a similar boat. I'm ready to make the purchase anytime, but I feel like I should wait until at least CEDIA 2014. The wait is killing me though. Knowing me, I might just make the purchase and then a few weeks later Paradigm will announce new Studios and I'm kicking myself.
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