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I'm going to have to snag some V5 Studios if they do go on fire sale... because the rep was saying the Studios may get phased out once the Prestige line gets established. It might not be right away, but perhaps a bit later. There is the possibility that the Signatures could become the "Studio"-like line, but with the higher price point. Paradigm doesn't seem to be lowering their prices; just the opposite!! If you have a sub, you won't notice the slightly flabbier low bass response.
Im gonna try and do the same. Or maybe I can catch someone with 100 v4's selling thiers to grab the v5's on fire sale. I've not be able to tell a difference in sound between v4 and v5. BUT, i've never heard them side by side in the same room.
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Im gonna try and do the same. Or maybe I can catch someone with 100 v4's selling thiers to grab the v5's on fire sale. I've not be able to tell a difference in sound between v4 and v5. BUT, i've never heard them side by side in the same room.
The sonic difference is negligible.

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Has it been confirmed that they are phasing out the Studio series?
That makes me a little sad.
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Has it been confirmed that they are phasing out the Studio series?
That makes me a little sad.
Their rep said more than likely after the Prestige line gets established. They might continue it if there is enough customer feedback, but only if. There will be no V6 Studio version. It seems like the Prestige line is another cost cutting measure for them. Bass response was tighter/fuller, but everything else was not as good. Oh, and of course, the base price went up.

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Heard the prestige 85 at Cedia. Sounded really nice. 3 towers at $3000 $4000 and $5000 and the bookself at 1699. An up charge for the new finish like the tributes of $200 or $300 for the biggest tower.
Pricing may change because the signs said tba on the pricing but the reps gave those numbers.
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The tweeter is s-pal but different from the current studio. All the towers are 2 1/2 way. The deep bass during the demo sounded great.

Do wish they had the beryllium tweeter like my signature v2. They look better in real life then in the pictures

Cant wait until they upgrade the Signature line.

The current Studio V.5 line uses the G-Pal Tweeter (Gold).......the currently available S-Pal Tweeter is in the monitor series. I'm not sure where the new Prestige S-Pal tweeter fits in the lineup.......not sure if Paradigm is claiming it is better than anything they have now?
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The new tweeter is all aluminum no? Can it be a modification of the tweeter used in the Monitor series? I can't believe they would give up the good will built into the studio brand.

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http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/press...ce/#more-27066


From this information (if accurate) it looks like it is the same tweeter as the current Monitor series with a new "Tweeter Lens".


It does not say it is a newer version of the S-Pal so I suspect it is the same one that is used right now.........which does sound a little bright to me compared to the G-Pal.


These are very unattractive speaker's and I am quits on Paradigm........a scratched up SE Center.......returned.......two sets in a row of Rosenut Studio 100's and CC690 scratched .......marked up.........uneven finish and surface.............just a joke.


Today I was listening, happily, to my Studio 20 V.1's on my stereo system......they still sound nice........and are completely mark free as new.
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http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/press...ce/#more-27066


From this information (if accurate) it looks like it is the same tweeter as the current Monitor series with a new "Tweeter Lens".


It does not say it is a newer version of the S-Pal so I suspect it is the same one that is used right now.........which does sound a little bright to me compared to the G-Pal.


These are very unattractive speaker's and I am quits on Paradigm........a scratched up SE Center.......returned.......two sets in a row of Rosenut Studio 100's and CC690 scratched .......marked up.........uneven finish and surface.............just a joke.


Today I was listening, happily, to my Studio 20 V.1's on my stereo system......they still sound nice........and are completely mark free as new.
Paradigm quality seems to be slipping while prices keep rising.

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I've been a Paradigm fan since they first came out with the Studios 100 back in 1998, which I purchased after comparing them to a set of B&W at twice the price but, to my ears at the time, sounded similar. That's how I got to know Paradigm as an awesome value compared to other brands. But now, not any more. They keep raising prices to where they are no longer the premium value brand. I have a set of S8v3, C5v3, and Adp3v3, all in piano black, but these may be the last set of Paradigms I buy. I'm moving on to other premium brands that offer sound quality at a better value. I have my first pair of PSB Synchrony Two for my bedroom and these speakers sound awesome. I'm also eyeing a set of Focal Electra 1028be which has a lower price on their dark walnut, maybe even look at the Triton One which has glowing reviews.
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I've been a Paradigm fan since they first came out with the Studios 100 back in 1998, which I purchased after comparing them to a set of B&W at twice the price but, to my ears at the time, sounded similar. That's how I got to know Paradigm as an awesome value compared to other brands. But now, not any more. They keep raising prices to where they are no longer the premium value brand. I have a set of S8v3, C5v3, and Adp3v3, all in piano black, but these may be the last set of Paradigms I buy. I'm moving on to other premium brands that offer sound quality at a better value. I have my first pair of PSB Synchrony Two for my bedroom and these speakers sound awesome. I'm also eyeing a set of Focal Electra 1028be which has a lower price on their dark walnut, maybe even look at the Triton One which has glowing reviews.
Triads are great too. US built is a big plus in my book.

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There will be no V6 Studio version.
Wow, that is sobering news. It seems there isn't a good mid-level choice anymore. Paradigm's Studio peaked with the V4, Revel's later Performas never quite matched the original, and B&W lost their way after the 700 series. I was really hoping the V6 would buck the trend of higher price for less performance with each generation.
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Sad to hear that Paradigm might be moving away from the Studio series. It might be time for me to try a new brand and life has changed much since this purchase and maybe its time for some Focal Maestro Utopia Loudspeakers? Humm.
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Sad to hear that Paradigm might be moving away from the Studio series. It might be time for me to try a new brand and life has changed much since this purchase and maybe its time for some Focal Maestro Utopia Loudspeakers? Humm.
Over on their Facebook, a Paradigm rep has said (just 20 hours ago) that the Prestige series is a wholly new series, designed to sit between the Signature and Studio series. The rep stated that Prestige is not a replacement for the Studio. In addition, it would be interesting to hear which source set Prestige pricing at 3/4/ and 5,000 for the towers. The Paradigm rep., on Facebook, states that pricing has not yet been set. If the new series sits below the Sigs, the top end tower could not sell for $5,000.
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I am going with the theory that this is an experiment. If this series does well, I would suspect they would discontinue the Studio line. I like the Studio line looks. The new series are ugly to me.

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I am going with the theory that this is an experiment. If this series does well, I would suspect they would discontinue the Studio line. I like the Studio line looks. The new series are ugly to me.
I was not going to say it but, it's not so much that they are ugly. To me they appear garish. For example, there is a subtlety to the Sig line that allows me to place them in our living room and while they are noticed (they are after all Sig 8s!), they somehow fit in and do not dominate. I suspect that if I owned the new series, I'd keep them dressed in their grills. But what to do about the footing/plinth? It's a little too ostentatious for me. I hope that they don't go thus way when and if they update the Sig line.
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From the Paradigm guys at CEDIA it doesn't sound like the Studios will hang around much longer... unless there is a vocal consumer backlash. I got the distinct feeling that Paradigm is trying to cut costs anyway they can. The Prestige line's treble and mid reproduction quality was quite a bit lower compared to the current Studio v5's to these ears. And I had a really good seat in front during their demo.

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From the Paradigm guys at CEDIA it doesn't sound like the Studios will hang around much longer... unless there is a vocal consumer backlash. I got the distinct feeling that Paradigm is trying to cut costs anyway they can. The Prestige line's treble and mid reproduction quality was quite a bit lower compared to the current Studio v5's to these ears. And I had a really good seat in front during their demo.
So, that sounds as though the Sig series will be left far out on top. Dan, if what you are saying does to pass, that would result in used Studio v5 and v6 holding on to high prices. That's good and bad. Within a year, I want to pick up a full set of v5 for my media room.
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From the Paradigm guys at CEDIA it doesn't sound like the Studios will hang around much longer... unless there is a vocal consumer backlash. I got the distinct feeling that Paradigm is trying to cut costs anyway they can. The Prestige line's treble and mid reproduction quality was quite a bit lower compared to the current Studio v5's to these ears. And I had a really good seat in front during their demo.
It makes sense from a business point of view to cut costs and maximize profits. The high fidelity market is becoming more niche and too expensive even for the casual guys that want to get into good quality sound. You could kind of tell that Paradigm was slowly moving away from reference quality stuff to more low end type of stuff like soundbars. I'm not too thrilled about the V shaped sound from the Prestige speakers that a couple of you guys have noted from the demoing process.
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Best way to cut costs would be to ditch the ugly prestige line


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Don't be so sure that these will be priced above the Studio series.

Surprised that there is not three way though as there is in all their other lines.


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It confusing that they are replacing the Studios, which have very nice mids and highs with the prestige, which has been said to have lesser quality in those areas.
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There is zero incentive to "downgrade" from the studios to these, just based on specs only. I haven't head them yet, so I'll reserve my criticism. Instead of getting the trickle down tweeter from the Sigs, paradigm is using the tweeters from the monitors?
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There is zero incentive to "downgrade" from the studios to these, just based on specs only. I haven't head them yet, so I'll reserve my criticism. Instead of getting the trickle down tweeter from the Sigs, paradigm is using the tweeters from the monitors?
That's what it sounds like.

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I just went to my local dealer and ordered a pair of Studio 100's in the Rosenut finish. I was able to get it for 3000 CAD before taxes. I'm stoked for these. They said it'll take about 7-10 business days to arrive. I finally made the decision to get these and super excited.
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I just went to my local dealer and ordered a pair of Studio 100's in the Rosenut finish. I was able to get it for 3000 CAD before taxes. I'm stoked for these. They said it'll take about 7-10 business days to arrive. I finally made the decision to get these and super excited.
The rosenut finish is beautiful. So about 25% off MSRP (after US Dollar conversion). Not bad. That's what I was able to get my Paradigm's for from a dealer but no tax, just had to pay shipping.

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The rosenut finish is beautiful. So about 25% off MSRP (after US Dollar conversion). Not bad. That's what I was able to get my Paradigm's for from a dealer but no tax, just had to pay shipping.
Yeah the discount was pretty good already. I didn't want to wait until Paradigm officially announces that they will discontinue the Studio 100's because it may not be soon and by then it might be difficult to get the finish I want. I waited a very long time to pull the trigger and I'm very happy I finally did. I don't have to keep looking at pictures of these soon haha.
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I just went to my local dealer and ordered a pair of Studio 100's in the Rosenut finish. I was able to get it for 3000 CAD before taxes. I'm stoked for these. They said it'll take about 7-10 business days to arrive. I finally made the decision to get these and super excited.
Tim enjoying my one month old Rosenut 100s and they are great.
One problem, their going back! The finish is not a grade A finish and I didn't buy " B " stock. Just got them broke in and I'll have to start all over. They claim they'll be inspected before they leave Paradigm, we'll see.:cool.
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Tim enjoying my one month old Rosenut 100s and they are great.
One problem, their going back! The finish is not a grade A finish and I didn't buy " B " stock. Just got them broke in and I'll have to start all over. They claim they'll be inspected before they leave Paradigm, we'll see.:cool.

Been there done that...........2nd shipment inspected by the top Sales Manager (won't mention his name) for the company......absolute junk was received anyway......Rosenut too!!
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I just went to my local dealer and ordered a pair of Studio 100's in the Rosenut finish. I was able to get it for 3000 CAD before taxes. I'm stoked for these. They said it'll take about 7-10 business days to arrive. I finally made the decision to get these and super excited.
I know you'll enjoy them, both the sound and the beauty!
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