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AFAIK, banana plugs are illegal in the EU, so most likely Paradigm is blocking them for that reason. They are easily removed for those who wish to use banana plugs.

Curious, why banana plugs illegal in EU?


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Curious, why banana plugs illegal in EU?


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They can plug in to their outlets since they're shaped similar.

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Yes, that is what I heard. There are people who do not know that speakers should be plugged into your receiver and not the power outlet on the wall...then cause explosions and fires when they plug them into the wall outlet. The double set fits perfectly (or so I have read) and the singles will fit one at a time. Even the grounded outlets are not safe from banana plug stupidity, since the grounding prong is simply ignored.


Although I just read there IS a legal version of the banana plug in Europe now, it has a plastic prong sticking out to the side of the banana plug where it will not interfere with using it in a binding post but will prevent it from being stuck into an outlet.






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^^ hey thanks, truly, I never knew this.
http://www.worldstandards.eu/electri...s-and-sockets/


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Well, I just heard back from Paradigm about my new yet cosmetically flawed Studio 20's. They're offering me $300 off the pair.

To the Paradigm community, I put to you, does that seem like a fair deal?

Listen up, studios! Just say "NO" to DNR and EE!!
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Well, I just heard back from Paradigm about my new yet cosmetically flawed Studio 20's. They're offering me $300 off the pair.

To the Paradigm community, I put to you, does that seem like a fair deal?
How flawed does it look?
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Well, I just heard back from Paradigm about my new yet cosmetically flawed Studio 20's. They're offering me $300 off the pair.

To the Paradigm community, I put to you, does that seem like a fair deal?
If the flaws are purely cosmetic and you are able to live with them then no reason why you wouldn't accept the offer. I have a dent in the corner of my 20's that is very visible and I see it once in a while and think nothing of it now. At first it would bother me even though I got a great deal on the speakers because of the damage...now I don't really care because they sound so awesome!!

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How flawed does it look?
There are dark scuff marks in the finish on both sides of each speaker. When you shine a bright light on them the marks really stand out (like when I took a flash photo of them to send to Paradigm). However, under "normal" lighting they're not quite as noticeable.

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There are dark scuff marks in the finish on both sides of each speaker. When you shine a bright light on them the marks really stand out (like when I took a flash photo of them to send to Paradigm). However, under "normal" lighting they're not quite as noticeable.
Then to me it seems like a very fair deal. I'd take it and run.
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I would send them back and buy some used Millenia 200s that are in perfect condition.....but that is just me.


In seriousness, if they do not bother you, take the money and keep them. If they are going to nag at your forever, get them replaced.

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Yes, that is what I heard. There are people who do not know that speakers should be plugged into your receiver and not the power outlet on the wall...then cause explosions and fires when they plug them into the wall outlet. The double set fits perfectly (or so I have read) and the singles will fit one at a time. Even the grounded outlets are not safe from banana plug stupidity, since the grounding prong is simply ignored.


Although I just read there IS a legal version of the banana plug in Europe now, it has a plastic prong sticking out to the side of the banana plug where it will not interfere with using it in a binding post but will prevent it from being stuck into an outlet.





Looks like those banana plugs will fit in snugly to the EU socket!

I'm trying to figure out how a plastic prong could work and my only thought is that it is U shaped to where it would stop you from plugging in by hitting the wall plate somehow.

No ground? (Three prong outlet?) For you EU Electricians out there. :>)

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As a followup I decided to go with the $300 refund. Thanks for your opinions.
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I can hardly wait for my new system to arrive. I was going over the order with my home theater installer and
he told me "your new system will make your old Snell's sound like an alarm clock radio" !
On other news ... Paradigm will be unveiling stats on the SW2000 and SW1000 at the end of the month ...
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Looks like those banana plugs will fit in snugly to the EU socket!

I'm trying to figure out how a plastic prong could work and my only thought is that it is U shaped to where it would stop you from plugging in by hitting the wall plate somehow.

Yeah, there is an L shaped one out there now - so the plastic piece hits the wall outlet before the metal piece enters it - but the plastic piece will slide next to the binding post as the metal piece slide into the binding post.

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No ground? (Three prong outlet?) For you EU Electricians out there. :>)
They have them as well - depends on the country. The UK, for instance, does not use the round holed outlets.

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As a followup I decided to go with the $300 refund. Thanks for your opinions.
I would have taken the refund as well, instead.

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Just picked up a Studio CC-470 v.3 Center to match my Studio 60's I've just gotten. Excited to hear it, but I've just sent my Marantz up to get a firmware update, so it will be Monday. I definitely have a case of the upgrade bug.

I have a mint condition CC-370 center...what should I put that up for? $150?

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As a followup I decided to go with the $300 refund. Thanks for your opinions.
Good move. You know what? After a couple of months, you won't even think about the cosmetic issues. You'll be enjoying the speakers.

And...the $300.00 will feel even better!

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